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marky48 (11:12:33) :
between 13.5 and 16 microns is the answer, with a peak of 15 microns
That is for one molecule of c02 just as any other molecule. There are 3000 other molecules apart c02 in th esame voume of air so the chances of one c02 molecule colliding with another are quite thin, and the equalisation thermslisation is quite small for the vibration. On average at 15C radiation leaves earth at 10 microns which gives a clear exit of radiation without being absorbed by c02, so c02 is most active in the mid-upper troposphere, as it does little at the surface. When put against temperatures ranging from -30C to -70C however that is precious little energy for c02 to absorb. Since the energy that c02 absorbs is fixed by the 1st 100ppm, climatologists had to invent a cascade theory, since extra c02 doesn’t add extra heat – meaning that the energy inthe system is constant, and absorbed overhead, it percolates back down to earth. At this point however, its thermally equal to subzero, so not a fraction of extra energy is added below.
c02 excitation is quite a rare phenomenon in the atmosphere and a co2 molecule doesn’t have the energy to cause other molecules to vibrate. If we were in a warming world, then c02 would absorb even less heat, as the atmosphere would move further away from teh 1 micron wavelength.
It’s a bold statement to say that doubling c02 would not give even an extra fraction of added energy anywhere in the atmosphere due solely to these windows, though as it stands the efefct of c02 is so miniscule that it hasn’t actually, and can’t be measured.
addendum in penultimate paragraph: …as the lower atmosphere moves further away from the 10 micron wavelength…
tokyoboy (16:47:14)
After reading just a few emails, its abvious that Briffa didn’t believe tree rings telling a complete climate picture, and even a little contetemps with Mann followed. However, he wielded to his senior, Jones, and the demands of Mann. Briffa expressed that the demands of science and those of the IPCC are not the same.
John M (12:53:20) :
The number of vapour as opposed to c02 molecules in a volume of air matters and they both vibrate in the 15 micron band – vapour follows 7-15.6 microns and there are many more vapour than c02 molecules ina given volume of air., although CO2 excited with one quanta in the bending mode or the asymmetric stretch does not have enough energy to excite an H2O molecule CO2 excited with one quanta in the symmetric stretching mode does, but that requires so much energy that it isn’t found in the atmosphere, even at ground level on a hot day.
When I first became aware of “Climategate”, I Remember my late Mum used to say to us kids:-
” Don’t tell lies, I always know when you’re lying, and one lie leads to another, eventually no one will believe anything you say”.
How right she was, after watching this video, only one word comes to mind “Nuremberg”.
marky48 (12:21:52) :
Fake graphs showing what you want won’t help you.
Which fake graphs — Mann’s?
NASA puts rovers on Mars and you folks take out the trash. There’s no comparison in the real world.
NASA also destroys satellites when employees use the Clean Room crane to hoist them over the worktable, then lower them without putting all the jackstands in place.
NASA also turns Rovers into Martian meteorites by designing equipment to withstand impacts measured in feet per second and then trying to land them at speeds measured in meters per second.
NASA is also being sued for ignoring repeated FOIA requests for climate data since 2006.
Ooops. Time to take out the trash…
galileonardo (00:03:12),
I read through your rebuttals. Excellent work.
CO2conspirators
What’s up with the line that says that Phil Jones received £2,725,000 in grants since 1990? Shouldn’t that be £13,718,547 (~$22,630,526 at today’s exchange rate)? That is what the grant amounts total up to on the pdj_grant_since1990.xls spreadsheet.
marky48 – Is it possible for you to post unbiased info from sources other than those of the scientists that conspired to defraud the world?
Just noticed my “who’s Who” video got used by the Examiner. http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d28-Climategate-the-video–Whos-who-and-what-was-said
It’s great to see the information getting out and want to thank Anthony once again for posting the video here.
I also want to say that I’m placing the video in the public domain, so that there’s no Copyright, IP, or other barriers to other organizations using the video.
Add a video containing references to where all the information in the main video can be found.
Climatologist Tim Ball explains the players: click
Climate change does not happen because of humans! BBC docu:
http://www.garagetv.nl/video-galerij/blancostemrecht/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle_Documentary_Film.aspx