Steve McIntyre writes: One reviewer of the IPCC 2007 Assessment Report specifically asked IPCC not to hide the decline. The reviewer stated very clearly:
Show the Briffa et al reconstruction through to its end; don’t stop in 1960. Then comment and deal with the “divergence problem” if you need to. Don’t cover up the divergence by truncating this graphic. This was done in IPCC TAR; this was misleading (comment ID #: 309-18)
The IPCC said that it would be “inappropriate to show recent section of Briffa et al. series“.
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John Phillips (13:05:03) : Even if oil is at its peak production, don’t forget gas and liquid diesel type fuel can be made from coal. Not a new technology, Germans ran their tanks and jet aircraft with in during WWII.
Lots more expensive than oil though.
Um, Saudi just did their first real production expansion in a very long time. Added a few Billion bbl / DAY of capacity. Not pumping it, though, it’s “spare”. They have lots more oil. They just don’t drill too many million dollar holes to put a cap on them…
In South Africa SSL Sasol has being doing Coal to Liquids for about 1/4 century. If you use “petroleum” in S.A. than the F.T. process. RTK Rentech is using the same thing for the LAX fuel. SYNM Syntroleum is turning Tyson Chicken fat into fuel too.
And the prices are NOT more expensive than oil. They were back when they cost $100 /bbl and oil was $20. Now oil is $70 to $80 and the process costs have been driven down to about $50 (or maybe less). It is now economic and profitable to make oil from coal and trash. South Africa did it just to be free of external threats, so cost is not the only issue. But it IS NOT MORE EXPENSIVE and when oil was at $100+/ bbl it was much cheaper than oil.
Nothing to do with divergence though… but maybe it could fit under a “need the truth” stretch 😉
@ur momisugly E.M.Smith (20:28:03) : -SNIP- Um, Saudi just did their first real production expansion in a very long time. Added a few Billion bbl / DAY of capacity.
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E.M., I don’t suppose you happen to have a link for that info? I’ve a friend who’s been on about peak oil for quite some time and I’d like to send him that juicy tidbit. 🙂 Prolly won’t make any diff, unfortunately – he’s a ‘true believer’ type about a number of these things, but I try anyhow.