Steve McIntyre writes: One reviewer of the IPCC 2007 Assessment Report specifically asked IPCC not to hide the decline. The reviewer stated very clearly:
Show the Briffa et al reconstruction through to its end; don’t stop in 1960. Then comment and deal with the “divergence problem” if you need to. Don’t cover up the divergence by truncating this graphic. This was done in IPCC TAR; this was misleading (comment ID #: 309-18)
The IPCC said that it would be “inappropriate to show recent section of Briffa et al. series“.
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This is like a domino effect – one thing leads to another then another then another. We will all be climate experts by the end of this lol
Hiding right out in the open !!!!!!!!!!!!
This just keeps getting better by the day !!!!
This could be a diversionary tactic in the run-up to Copenhagen. While a lot of people are pulling this leak to bits, slippery and sneaky pollies insert not only an ETS/Cap & Trade policy, but other draconian policies too.
Thanksgiving Day Invitation to the Climate Change Skeptics
All the data and what models exist seem to indicate that we have reached a peak in oil production and a long steady decline is ahead of us.
This chronic oil depletion crisis happens to be occurring in parallel with climate change awareness, although peak oil has gotten much less publicity. This is serious stuff, yet the government barely acknowledges its significance because it has serious ramifications on the economy.
So, unfortunately, much of the public has no awareness of our petroleum predicament, and further, a significant number of people actively question the phenomena of peak oil.
Like it or not, a sizable cross-section climate change skeptics also happen to be oil
depletion skeptics. There is no arguing this, as you hear it on radio talk shows constantly and you read about it in opinion pieces such as by George Will and a host of others.
So the challenge to the climate science skeptics who claim to be hot-shot statistics wizards — why don’t you “audit” those of us who post on http://theoildrum.com and other oil depletion blogs?
We are waiting, all of our data is open, we only discuss matters in open daylight, and we will kick your asses with our skillz. Seriously, we have to change our energy policy and soon. Whether it is due to a crisis in climate change, or due to an inexorable decline in easily accessible petroleum, things will change, like it or not. Here is your chance once more to prove someone wrong. Good luck.
And BTW, whatever data we uncover does not belong to us; oil reserve estimates are usually locked up in some corporate or foreign nation-state vault totally immune to FOIA requests. Double good luck in getting that. You will get to see how the people with the REAL money play hardball.
It looks like you have finished mopping the floor with the climate science crowd, and
you should be ready for your next conquest. Yes, we are waiting for you, and we knew this day would come.
As with Watergate, Plame, and Martha Stewart, it’s not the act that gets you caught it’s the cover-up.
Some guy named McIntyre. Sounds like a smart scientist 🙂
Was this “discussed” in any of the Assessment Reports?
And was how Briffa reconstructed the temperature between 1600 – 1700 discussed:
http://camirror.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/briffa3.jpg
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“The cause of this increasing insensitivity of wood density to temperature changes is not known, but if it is not taken into account in dendroclimatic reconstructions, past temperatures could be overestimated.”
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v391/n6668/full/391678a0.html
I can just hear Al Gore’s response if he’s asked about the cherry-picking of the Yamal tree data: “Well, the fact that there are cherry trees growing in Yamal is further proof of global warming.”
The pollies have made up their minds based on the opinion polls. They are going to Copenhagen just like going to Iraq– based on the same quality of information and intelligence. At least for the next two to three years they could wave the flags “Mission Accomplish”. When the quality of the intelligence or information becomes known they dont care. They will be out of office by then. In fact the pollies will be the first one to claim they have been misled. After all they are just decision makers, they are not climate scientists. They dont care about history. If climate science will start to unwound, the world will have move on to another type of hysteria. The good thing about climate science is the very long shelf life of the hysteria. Climate Change hysteria is not unique. In fact public policy specialist have a special term for this phenomenon. It is called “moral panic”.
This is the irony of climate science. There professionals but the field has really been hijacked by movie stars, MSM personalities, railway engineers, theologians, etc. The top science societies have been hijacked and are freely supporting the principles that destorys the credibility of science. Hopefully the climategate issue will develop a wide base of intellectuals who will lead the revival of science who will counter balance the pseudo scientific appeal of the movie stars and carpet baggers riding on the economic benefits of climate change.
No matter how well meaning, anything less than straight ahead truth will get you in the end. That’s what always happens to politicians, but it’s sad that scientists are also getting into it.
Who coined the word climategate?
Just Curious.
REPLY: It was coined here at WUWT on Nov 19th I believe. – Anthony
Here it is:
Bulldust
Submitted on 2009/11/19 at 3:52pm
Hmmm how long before this is dubbed ClimateGate?
Bishop Hill is getting into a series on the codes.
There must be a thousan knowledgeable people investigating them as well.
E-mails; Harry’s red me file and the codes. The person who released this knew she was sowing all the clues …yeah!
Alvin (18:14:54) :
Some guy named McIntyre. Sounds like a smart scientist 🙂
Or an auditor whose name must not be mentioned.
Anthony – Google hits 8,560,000 for Climategate
sweet
Jim Watson 18:22:16
Al Gore’s response to any challenhe is: “Are the Polar Bears endangered?”
Response: “No, they are increasing in numbers”.
“REPLY: It was coined here at WUWT on Nov 19th I believe. – Anthony”
I went to the first thread and searched it, and this was the first use of the word:
Bulldust (15:52:36) :
“Hmmm how long before this is dubbed ClimateGate?”
“The IPCC said that it would be “inappropriate to show recent section of Briffa et al. series“.”
Cue the chorus:
“Hide the decline / hide the decline / hide the decline.”
twit……’peak oil’ as in maximum reserve size or ‘peak oil’ as in a maximum daily production rate?…….the latter is the only one that may have some legs….all you really need though is after Mann et al get skidded they can be simply rehired to massage daily max output datas & simply hide the production decline……….
Remember everyone that skeptic scientist Tim Ball will be on Coast to Coast AM tonight in the last two hours. That’s 12 -2 Pacific, 3-5 ET.
twit —
Don’t worry. (That’s what my wife always says). The amount of oil that has not been extracted in the United States and surrounding area is HUGE. Some of the oil is recoverable by drilling, and some is recoverable from other means (i.e. oil shale — see http://geology.com/news/2008/billions-of-barrels-of-oil-in-north-dakota-and-montana.shtml )
Perhaps if the current administration would let us recover some of this oil, it would help us recover, somewhat, from our ever-burgeoning national debt in the U.S.
They must have an alternate definition of “inappropriote” that I am unaware of.
Roger Knights (18:42:01) :
“REPLY: It was coined here at WUWT on Nov 19th I believe. – Anthony”
I went to the first thread and searched it, and this was the first use of the word:
Bulldust (15:52:36) :
“Hmmm how long before this is dubbed ClimateGate?”
Bulldust did it. He must be the “hacker”.
youse guys dood good … you’ve made us skeptics on sideline proud as can be
Climaquiddick.
Roger Knights (18:42:01) :
I don’t know where I saw this, but it is like driving off a bridge.
He’s a good short sale candidate: the carbon emissions Exchange-Traded Note (ETN) GRN . Here’s an article on it:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/175467-grn-new-carbon-emissions-etn-offers-green-energy-alternative