Ed Begley Jr. goes ballistic on Fox News. We saw something similarly unhinged with Center for American Progress Dan Wiess, also interviewed by Stuart Varney on Fox News.
From the YouTube description: Ed gets into a shoutfest and can’t stop pointing his finger at Stuart Varney of Fox News: “You’re spewing your nonsense again …” says Begley. We’re talking about Climategate..the recent discovery of e-mails by global warming ‘scientists’ that suggest a cover up..thousands of e-mails and documents (verified by the New York Times) have been released showing scientists trying to cover up the recent decline in temperatures and ‘trick’ the public.
By Ed’s reasoning, excluding everyone who is “not a degreed climate scientist” that rather puts Dr. James Hansen out of the picture, and many others, including Al Gore.
Watch the video below. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
I have no idea who Ed Begley is, nor his credentials that surely must be precise to terrestrial atmospheric sciences, because he ridicules meteorologists, physicists and perhaps others for their ignorance in the subject he professes great knowledge. Curious in that James Hansen is an astronomer. Michel Mann has his degree in Geology/Geophysics. And it is a shame Varney was unfamiliar with the thread that related a conspiracy to prevent peer review of skeptical papers.
That having been said, this fellow exhibits extreme asocial tendencies. He is likely deranged and should be under the care of a doctor.
As a Brit, who is that nut?
And I was foolish enough to believe that the behaviour of the climate was all based on the laws of physics. I sure am glad that bozo put me right.
crosspatch (14:03:10) :
So far no evidence has emerged that anything was “hacked into”. The word “hacker” is used for everything these days including cases of “we left a file open to world access on a web server and someone found it”. I would wait for further information.
Yes I am aware of that. Bit of a media smoke screen.
Yet the media keep going on about these hacker and how terribly awful to hack an English University. Yet they see it all right to hack 97 US computer systems, just a bit of a laugh.
Things are getting worse
http://www.farmersguardian.com/news/goverment-report-backs-reduction-in-livestock-numbers/29139.article
“A GOVERNMENT-BACKED report calling for significant reductions in livestock numbers to tackle climate change and health problems”
We are all going veggie.
Is there no end to this madness?
SM is on the case again:
http://camirror.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/new-the-deleted-data/#comment-1557
BTW, a short piece on the New Zealand Climategate manipulation of data.
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2009/11/climategate-nz-niwa-exposed-in-global-warming-hoax/
Icecap has more.
News from Germany:
The studies about climate and global warming are sponsored from german insurence companies (Allianz, Munich Re).
Now, the Munich RE offer the first insurance against climate change results …. and they want 5 Billion Euro from the tax payer ….
Follow the money
Sorry about my previous post. I get it now. He’s an actor. He thought he was auditioning for a remake of “One flew over the cuckoo’s nest”.
From Wikipedia:
Biography
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Personal life
Begley, Jr. was born in Los Angeles, California, the son of Allene Jeanne Sanders and Academy Award winner Ed Begley, both actors (although at the time, Ed Begley was married to Amanda Huff). He grew up on Merrick, Long Island, New York where he attended Stella Niagara Education Park Cadet school in Lewiston, New York. In 1962 the family moved back to California where he graduated from Notre Dame High School, Sherman Oaks, California and Los Angeles Valley College in North Hollywood, California.
Yes, he is surely highly qualified to tell us what the scientific truth is about this whole Warmergate.
Peter (14:21:22) : Lastly, papers which do not show the maths, or do not include at least references to the data, source code etc, should not get through peer review. After all, if other scientists have no access to the calculations, data etc then how are they expected to test the hypothesis?
Brilliant point! Scientific peer reviewed papers including available data is the “channel” in which science is being communicated. If data are not available it’s like sending a message with half of the content missing, we cannot thoroughly understand what is being said and we are unable to judge and check whether it makes any sense…
‘peer review’ is becoming somewhat cheapened by the email mess. Science never stops. The whole point of peer review is to get theories out there for *other scientists and experts* to knock down or corroborate.
Two of the emails in the leaked set demostrate how perverted the peer review process has become.
1. 1255298593.txt
“… other groups — primarily at the NCDC [NOAA National Climatic Data Center] and at GISS [NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies], but also in Russia — WERE able to replicate the major findings of the CRU and UK Hadley Centre groups. The NCDC and GISS groups performed this replication completely independently. They made different choices in the complex process of choosing input data, adjusting raw station data for known inhomogeneities (such as urbanization effects, changes in instrumentation, site location, and observation time), and gridding procedures. NCDC and GISS-based estimates of global surface temperature changes are in good accord with the HadCRUT data results.”
Peer review is supposed to enable replicability. You publish your theory, your results *and* how you got them. If others cannot replicate your results by following the same method then it will not be taken seriously. As the NCDC and GISS groups chose different input data, made different adjustments and presumably processed them with their own software can it still be considered replication of the Hadley/CRU method?
2. 1256765544.txt
Phil Jones believes: “The peer-review system is the safeguard science has developed to stop bad science being published.”
That isn’t what peer review is for. Bad science deserves to be published and subsequently rubbished if it is indeed bad. If certain people collude to prevent science they disagree with from ever getting a hearing it is completely unjustified to describe it as ‘bad’ science because it hasn’t been allowed to run the gauntlet of peer review.
NikFromNYC,
How very odd that you should bring up Ancel keys and the demonisation of fats – this is the very reason that I started looking more closely at the science behind climate change – the parallels between medical research and climate research are staggering. It seems like the minute you soften the science, human nature creeps in…
helpgetmeoutofhere (14:25:47) :
(a la Soup Nazi) NO BEEF FOR YOU!
With Intel Fortran you should use the -fixed option for fixed format files. The manual is here:
http://software.intel.com/file/6335
I think my favourite part is where he cites catalytic converters (which conveniently convert everything to water and CO2) as having saved LA from pollution. Are the two halves of his brain connected?
In other news, Steve has a new post up about Briffa.
wow. if the interviewer would’ve been thinking, he could have responded to ed begley regarding “peer reviewed studies” by saying that phil jones et al’s emails show that they’re intent on prohibiting the integrity of the peer review process.
man, begley’s a religious zealot to the extreme. what a nut.
Mr. Ed? Is he one of the king’s horses?
Ed Begley is proof of the conjecture of alternate realities, he lives in one. He was just visiting on the Varney show.
I have to wonder if by spending SOOO much time focusing on CO2 we aren’t avoiding other important things which are often dumped into the environment.
If the jury is still out on warming of the environment then at least clamp down on toxic dumping of PCB’s and other chemical and human waste.
helpgetmeoutofhere (13:58:49) :
Hacking into one computer system is serious, it is a crime.
As we are continually reminded.
Hacking into 97 USA computer systems when you are looking for UFO’s, is OK!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8381961.stm
The English mass media have been 100% against Garry being extradited to the USA . How dare you want this poor chap he has Asperger.
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If you knew anything about Gary McKinnon’s case you would know that the guy did nothing and the ‘damage’ caused was embarrassment to the US because they left default install passwords on their servers (yes what DICK HEADS) but the penalty for that crime in this country is a max 2k fine and at max a couple of years (never yet imposed) and we are extraditing the guy to life imprisonment with no parole to save the embarrassment of a few IT dicks in the US.
If they catch the hacker that revealed to the world that global warming was a hoax I will personally donate to his fund as will millions of Brits and some of you Yanks (the brighter ones of course).
And to Gary McKinnon, good luck, we all know they are wrong and it’s a political decision but the corrupt government will soon be gone so maybe there is hope if Cameron’s government is really an honest change.
Best wishes Gary.
Bryn (13:07:39) Bedgley isn’t that god of an actor.
Reminds me of the old cross fire on CNN. Sort of sad for ed.
Well obviously it “Begleys the Question” (sorry I couldn’t resist) about why Ed Begley hasn’t read or seen the part of Climategate that shows that the so called “peer review” was hijacked and stacked and thus can’t be trusted! Oops! Obviously Ed’s not up on the latest developments or is choosing to ignore the evidence of the Very Serious Climategate Peer Review Process Corruption that has taken place!
Read my article “Begleys the Question” here: http://pathstoknowledge.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/ed-begleys-the-question-circular-reasoning-and-logical-falisies-abound-in-the-blinded-by-green-cult
Ed mentions how clean Los Angeles is these days. That will be news to my congressman’s office (Dennis Moore, D, 3rd dist. Kansas) where they told me yesterday that coal burning, and coal burning ships are the problem in Los Angeles and the Port of Los Angeles, and that is why we need to stop burning coal. Maybe that is why he voted for cap and tax. But if that is the best information that some congress people have….it’s no wonder we have a problem.
@ur momisugly NikFromNYC:
Funny you should mention Ancel Keys. I understand his research was done during/after WWII in order to find out what happens when people are starved.
I wonder if they figured out that, among other things, people who are starving (especially for cholesterol) have trouble procreating healthy children, their mental faculties are diminished, and their health becomes generally more fragile.
I wonder if so many people would still swallow this hocum about AGW if there weren’t so many people taking anti-cholesterol meds?
I can’t figure out how the population will remain at sustainable levels to support the world government if cap-and-tax takes so much of their income that they can no longer afford to pay the redistribution penalties AND pay for their meds…. Oh, I get it–they’re not SUPPOSED to survive! This is one way to kill off these annoying, freedom-loving folks who stand in the way of a Big-Brother-worshiping one world government.
On the other hand, perhaps this strategy will backfire on the PTB because, once people have to make a choice between buying food and buying cholesterol-lowering meds, and they choose to buy food, they will regain their vitality and clarity of mind and throw off the shackles.