Ed Begley Jr. goes ballistic on Fox News. We saw something similarly unhinged with Center for American Progress Dan Wiess, also interviewed by Stuart Varney on Fox News.
From the YouTube description: Ed gets into a shoutfest and can’t stop pointing his finger at Stuart Varney of Fox News: “You’re spewing your nonsense again …” says Begley. We’re talking about Climategate..the recent discovery of e-mails by global warming ‘scientists’ that suggest a cover up..thousands of e-mails and documents (verified by the New York Times) have been released showing scientists trying to cover up the recent decline in temperatures and ‘trick’ the public.
By Ed’s reasoning, excluding everyone who is “not a degreed climate scientist” that rather puts Dr. James Hansen out of the picture, and many others, including Al Gore.
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Said it before; hope it’s not moderated out this time. Will attempt to couch it more delicately.
In the high level world of “climatology:”
Peer-reviewing = [snip]
Any further questions?
I would recommend Intel Visual Fortran compiler.
A- Oops, please edit out the “e.” Darn it!
Invariant (13:25:58) :
A lot of the files are marked .f90, which means you need a F90 or higher version of Fortran to work.
Haven’t checked the lastest versions of Linux, but they should be out there.
Intel & Compaq make some very good but pricey Fortran compilers.
Used the Compaq Fortran 90 for SPECcpu floating point.
[cute, now stop it. and happy thanksgiving ~ ctm]
Whenever things don’t make sense (Begley’s reaction in this instance), you are often missing a key piece of information. Now, re-run the video in your head with the following in mind – the worldwide socialist/marxist agenda is *THIS* close to killing capitalism, then comes this bombshell out of left field which could derail the entire endeavor.
It’s very hard for them to come up with logical arguments to defend CRU/IPCC, so as most leftists do, when they have no facts to support their argument they resort to increased volume and shutting down debate. There’s no other explanation that explains the distortions and “not a story, move along” narrative from the press and Hollywood. Shame they can’t just be honest about their leftist agenda and sell it on its merits. But then, spreading the misery is a tough sell.
What kind of science degree is an Oscar?
An Interesting shouting match. I seems to me that this was inevitable given Ed Begley’s personal commitment to the religion. He’s hardly likely to admit he’s wrong publicly on Fox News… He’s Zealot so he must be right
Hacking into one computer system is serious, it is a crime.
As we are continually reminded.
Hacking into 97 USA computer systems when you are looking for UFO’s, is OK!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8381961.stm
The English mass media have been 100% against Garry being extradited to the USA . How dare you want this poor chap he has Asperger.
If memory serves me correctly he hack into Fermi lab in Chicago.
Yet the BBC and English media hold up there arms with horror about someone hacking into CRU, while Garry is OK as he is on a “moral crusade”?
The sad thing, for me, is that he has a talent/gift which should be used in these days of computer crime.
How many “strange” people here employed at Bletchley Park?
Thankfully lots and God bless everyone of them.
http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/content/museum.rhtm
I do know that hundreds of scientific papers questioning reinforced AGW, but is a non-flat Earth peer reviewed yet? Or Murphy’s law? Is there more realities which can be questioned in real peer reviewed science? Intuitive things as Murphy’s law won’t even need the skills and tactics of Jones and Mann.
Btw, Ed and Stuart end up as friends; here:
http://video.foxnews.com/11904096/the-science-is-very-clear
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The insurance policy Ed talks about is wrong because it’s collectivism. A global political body whith authority to redistribute large amounts of money from rich to poor sounds to me like socialism, which destroys societies.
Also carbon credit systems give control to politicians — at worst down to individual humans. Here an example of what is planned in Britain…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/carbon/6527970/Everyone-in-Britain-could-be-given-a-personal-carbon-allowance.html
Obama, and other political leaders, must not sign anything in December that enables the politics of climate socialists (*) which may be a platform for things as massive redistribution or carbon trade on global scale. they can sign that they are happy that they met each other in the cosy city of Copenhagen, but that’s enough.
(*) Due to a far left climate blog in Sweden Joachim Schellnhuber, head of Potsdam Insitute for Climate Impact Research (close to Tyndall Centre in East Anglia?), believes that climate change is 95 % about social justice. I guess that means massive redistribution.
“I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.”
Notice the defense here. It is novel. They likely really have been *had* by a system of quality control that functioned well enough to indeed act as the arbiter of truth for the last few generations. Messy, yes, but rarely corrupt. Peer review was the gold standard everybody outside of a group of “denialists’ [sic] put well earned faith in.
A rarely known example of it breaking down is the “war on fat”, in which the Machivellian was Ancel Keys (http://www.uh.edu/engines/AncelKeys.jpg) who like Warm Earthers promoted a single bullet theory of cardiac disease in which cholesterol intake was the only “driver” despite the fact that cholesterol is an essential component of cell membrane stability and is highly regulated via negative feedbacks. To this day there is junk science abound in medicine, at least according to quite a few doctor types (http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/the-statinator-paradox/) who form a similar book and blog based skeptical community who is flabbergasted at how the media merely acts as cheerleaders of what most academies of medicine endorse. Anti-depressants that work no better than placebo could be another example.
That’s not a bad defense though! Indeed *most* scientific societies quite strongly endorse AGW theory. There is the “paradigm shift” narrative, granted, but that involved grouchy old guys having to die off, not dishonest corruption. The Ed Begleys of the world, along with J. school environmental journalists simply could not believe that so many scientific bodies supported AGW in the face of skepticism if that skepticism were anything other than agenda tainted hokum. Given one or two examples of actual hokum and that was enough to stop the Ed Begleys out there from looking into things themselves to judge by reason alone instead of authority.
Yet despite the fair certainty that AGW is utterly incorrect, I am left with being one blog reader up against The Royal Society of the UK and the main scientific bodies of a slew of countries. That makes the topic pretty hard to breach if it comes up over lunch, and a the kiss of death of budding romance.
” helpgetmeoutofhere (13:58:49) : ”
So far no evidence has emerged that anything was “hacked into”. The word “hacker” is used for everything these days including cases of “we left a file open to world access on a web server and someone found it”. I would wait for further information.
Yep, that’s right Ed, those physicists don’t know anything about the climate.
Maybe I can get him to complain to Oxford University, they should never have taught me atmospheric physics as part of a physics degree.
How did “peer-reviewed” become the defining element of truth in science?
ctm –
Ours was last month. But thank YOU (collectively at WUWT) in the US for taking time from your holiday to provide the vital momentum and responsibility for doing what the MSM refuses to do.
Ahhhh… That was funny. 😀
The most funny thing about it is that they’re probably both quite intelligent and when they realize that the positions are locked they resort to shouting.
Did anyone notice that the Ed-man avoided the topic of the interview totally? 😀
And exaclty why wouldn’t a physicist understand the physical properties of CO2 and H2O in the atmosphere?
You can do physics without knowing climatology but You sure can’t do climatology without knowing physics. 🙂
What a cock!
Peer review is great, but those peers cannot be the same people you are working with to obtain the same goals. If you do that it’s like letting university students grade each others final exams.
Who is this Begley guy anyway? Isn’t he just another Hollywood weirdo? Who cares what he thinks, or shouts?
And yes, of course; How many of the worlds population can afford solar cell roofing?
And how many would have the time/money to maintain them?
Stupid…
…and I forgot to say that Joachim “climatechange is 95% social justice” Schellnhuber in the preparation of the Copenhagen summit has been an important person for its “scientific” papers. Lots of reinforcement, tipping points, and “the situation is due to new science much worse than we knew before and what IPCC has said.
I think many (utterly stupid!) politicians may read it as an order to accept radical politics. :-/
Apologies, should explain my last statement, that was genuinely the first thought that went through my head watching that video!
For our American friends, you read that right, I didn’t mis-spell crock!!
Happy thanks giving!
Dear Anthony,
Please use Intel Visual FORTRAN Compiler, it’s clearly the best compiler, I’ve downloaded the big data dump, and it seems that it contains *.f, *.for and *.f90 files. In order to compile fixed format files (*.for) please use the -fixed compiler option. All options are given here:
http://software.intel.com/file/6335
It should be straight forward to install and compile the code.
Best Regards
Invariant
Links currently in upper left corner on http://www.drudgereport.com say:
UK: Pretending the climate email leak isn’t a crisis won’t make it go away…
US: Impression left by emails is that global warming game has been rigged from start…
AUSTRALIA: Five MPs lead the way by resigning in disgust over carbon tax…
RUSSIA: Что скрывают ученые о глобальном потеплении?…
nick 12:50
remarkable – looks like M. Mann has realized the GW train is going off the tracks and is jumping off.
For Linux, GNU Fortran 95 is freely available.
My 2c on peer-review: Peer review means little. Peer review only means that the work is mostly compliant with the standards set by the publisher, and that it’s probably free of glaring errors. It does not mean that the hypothesis is good, tested or even scrutinized.
Peer review is only the first step. After a paper has been published, then other scientists can try to replicate the findings, or otherwise test the hypothesis. If those hostile to the hypothesis can find no fault with the paper, then it’s probably good – but still not necessarily so.
Lastly, papers which do not show the maths, or do not include at least references to the data, source code etc, should not get through peer review. After all, if other scientists have no access to the calculations, data etc then how are they expected to test the hypothesis?
from the show picture- looks like poor Ed’s getting tired and frustrated at being bossed around on the set-( maybe getting peer reviewed to death at home too!) – he just cant take it anymore- and takes it out on fox news