Wow, Australia’s parliament just imploded over discord due to emissions trading scheme being pushed by opposition leader Malcolm Turnbull (website here). Here’s the news from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation:
Pretty heavy stuff when Liberal MP’s resign rather than vote for a cap and trade scheme. The vote seems rather difficult now.
Latest count- 12 Mp’s have left.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/27/2755002.htm?section=justin
Starting to look like the Liberal Party leadership issue may be on hold till next week, but that it is premature to vote on the ETS, given that so few of the latest amendments have been debated in Parliament.
So hopefully Australia has bought a couple months breathing room to educate the representatives about all things ClimateGate. If the message goes out on enough channels about how CRU cooked the books of the IPCC, we may get some sensible debate on the science rather than poorly drafted ETS legislation pushed through for political purposes.
If the climate becomes a political talking point in a double dissolution election, expect all the dirty CRU laundry to come out to air.
The ETS bill failed to pass today, there will be a resitting on Monday. If that fails then it’s all over , the momentum has shifted.
It’s the phone calls and emails that are making this happen! True democracy in action. Even those that would have voted for the ETS yesterday have apologised to their colleagues this morning and will now vote NO. Turnbull is finished.
All Australians, call or email your Federal Representatives! Melt down those phones!
Representatives by State
Just got off the phone with an old friend in Australia… small business owner… tends to vote Labour and HAS NOT HEARD about climategate or CRUtape. I think most Aussies are thinking in terms of politics as usual… an upstart in the opposition is trying to elbow out the leader. The Sydney Herald and the Daily Telegraph do not seem to be carrying our message. Anyone with connections in OZ need to contact them. Refer them back here. It is not a Liberal-Labour issue, it is a statist – freedom issue.
Aussies, the reason this is happening is because of the thousands of emails and phone calls the Opposition has been receiving against this ETS, especially since Climategate broke here just over 1 week ago.
Keep up the pressure, email your senators:
http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/senators/homepages/index.asp?sort=party
“Just got off the phone with an old friend in Australia… small business owner… tends to vote Labour and HAS NOT HEARD about climategate or CRUtape.”
This is very common in Australia at the moment. Everyone I have spoken to here is none the wiser. I believe it has a lot to do with the fact the main stations (TV) have barely touched it (I havent even found an article on either of the three stations).
I have however submitted a written complaint to the three stations several days ago about the lack of coverage, no response yet though, and have also given the complaint to local Labor and Liberal representative. My local Liberal rep is actually sceptical himself and phoned me after a dropped of docs a week or so ago to thank me and have a chat about it (one of the reasons I think its the Liberals that are stonewalling).
I have – in case any are not aware – forwarded on the details of the scandal and countless links to the Liberal Party this afternoon and thanking them for delaying the ETS Legislation. Unless I jump up and down naked on the Sydney Harbour Bridge with a sign that says “ClimateGate” on it, I am not sure I can do much more >.< . (Though if someone else feels like they wouldn't mind doing that, I am all for it 😉 )
Michael R (22:31:25) :
Sorry. The Pillsbury Dough Boy looks hot next to me. Me dancing naked on a bridge would be… shall we say.. counter-productive…
It only takes 7 votes to pass. Senate sits 10am next Monday.
Keep up the pressure on the weekend, use the link provided by Grant above.
In fairness Michael the article at the top is just about the only news being covered on Climate (or anything) in Australia, although certainly I’ve seen the ABC give some good coverage on Lateline. The collapse of the opposition is totally dominating everything else to the point that there is no room for climategate. Even the out and out sceptics in the Libs are more interested in a news snippet pilling pressure on turnbull just relating to passing the bill pre-copenhagen and positioning for the beig leadership spill on Tuesday.
There is just no room for CLimategate, and that is of the skeptics making to be fair.
I have just watched Turnbull on the 7.30 report and Monty Python’s Black Knight sums him up to a tee.
He is worse than Hitler in the final days and every kamikaze pilot that was aimed at a US carrier. He appears to be trying his utmost to destroy the political party he led by stating that the view of its core element counts for nothing and it is only he and Kevin Rudd that know how to save the planet.
It will be interesting to see who leads the party now that Turnbull is going to struggle all the way to the execution chamber as Hockey has stated he will not oppose Turnbull if he stands for re-election as leader. That leaves the mad monk Tony Abbott – a very conservative but wily politician. If elected, his first test will be whether he is prepared to take on the Government in an election completing opposing any ETS or whether it will be ‘wait until after Copenhagen’.
I still see this crisis arising purely because there has been no real debate on Climate Change and the stifling by the MSM of all opposing views of AGW. People must be allowed to listen to all sides of the argument thoroughly and fairly and then decide what is the best way for the world to proceed. Until this is done there is going to be further turmoil and even bloodshed in the future as I see this as a challenge to democracy itself. If it was not for the internet and forums like this, there is no doubt that we would all be following an unchallenged doctrine just like the brownshirts did in Nazi Germany.
MP John Redwood, almost certainly the smartest guy in Parliament & therefore on the back benches, has referred to the Australian meltdown & called for a public enquiry here. Such enquiries are very good ways to change directrion without embarrasment since nobody can be against one & if it comes up with a conclusion different to current policy nobody can then be faulted for changing.
http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/
The Channel 7 morning program ‘Sunrise’ did a whitewash job on the emails yesterday morning. See it here.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/yaunzpop/popup/?rn=1341467&cl=16830972&src=y7lifestyle&ch=
It started of well but they always wheel out Nick Rowley to finish off with plenty of misinformation. I emailed them to complain.
Bolta was on PM tonight and did an excellent job I thought, despite all the attempts tpo sidetrack him.
http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/twt/200911/20091127-pm4-andrew-bolt.mp3
Thanks for the link to the audio clip Ripper. Great to hear Bolta on the ABC. I don’t think the interviewer wanted to hear what he had to say but hopefully some listeners got the message. For those not in Oz, the ABC is the government broadcaster. It’s supposed to be independent and non-biased but their colours show through with almost everything they do. They are great supporters of the left and ceased to hide their leanings many years ago. How I miss Andrew Olle. Apparently even his friends didn’t know which way he voted. He was impartial as a good journalist should be. Those ethics have just about disappeared from the ABC with the loss of Andrew Olle.
The only bright hope they have is Chris Uhlmann who does seem to see beyond the superficial. I don’t know what he thinks of the whistle blower/hacking revelations though. This is what he said about the AGW hysteria a year ago: “As a former Seminarian, one of the things that strikes me most strongly about this debate is its theological nature, and that’s essentially that we have sinned against the environment, that we are now being punished and the only way that we can escape that punishment is to wear a hairshirt for the rest of our lives and hope that in the next life, and our children’s lives, and our children’s children’s lives, that things will get better.” Here’s a link to the interview (from the Insiders, July 2008). http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2007/s2295607.htm
As for Malcolm Turnbull? They say a week is a long time in politics. I think this weekend will seem like a decade to Malcolm.
Sorry, O/T: I tried to post the following on the BBC blog of Richard Black. It was ‘referred to the moderators’ three times. I was trying to imagine what the people that have invested the most in AGW as a way to control the masses would talk like, and yes, I was being facetious. I seem to have hit a raw nerve as my comment was ‘referred to moderators’ each of the three times. This happened very quickly. After I posted the comment I kept refreshing the page to see if the comment would pass through the moderation process, but it was referred unbelievably quickly between two of my refreshes. There wasn’t enough time for it to go live before it was referred to the moderators.
So, is there something in this post that is offensive, or that the BBC would have a reason for not publishing on Richard Black’s blog? I’d really like to know if someone can come up with a reason why this comment was rejected:
…So, John, are the BBC are still onside? Has this disgusting theft of data that “the stock”, (well at least the ones with brains), are calling ‘Climategate’ got out of control, or can the MSM be relied upon to keep it quiet until after Copenhagen?
Yes sir, I believe it can be contained until after Copenhagen. The BBC has mentioned it, but only in passing, they’ve not gone into detail about what the e-mails say or what the previously hidden data shows, neither have most of the UK press. Lucky for us – if the BBC and the rest of the MSM had consisted of proper journalists our cause would have been lost. The green fools at the BBC are acting exactly as we expected to when we put them in place, (let’s face it, Tamsin, who” loves seals” gets a job as an environmental researcher, and doesn’t question why someone with her limited brain capacity does so is hardly likely to protest against a cover up of this magnitude). They are so wrapped up in spreading their green message that they haven’t realised that they are walking back into slavery. It’s another story overseas though.
Well, John, as we both know, most of “the stock”, the brainless cattle that we own and control, are too busy fiddling with their stupid little mobile phones and watching mind numbing rubbish like The X Factor to be looking on the internet for a hushed up story about climate change being a scam. Even then, we can still rely on some marginally intelligent greens to go on blogs saying that there’s nothing going on, there’s nothing to see.
The poor pathetic clowns that they are, they don’t know they’re willingly walking back into the unending indenture that their grandparents fought their way out of. If only all of our stock were so gullible!
As we have been saying for some years now, we let “the stock” have far too much freedom after the Second World War, we should have kept them under better control, like we did after World War One. We took our eye off the ball and now they don’t have any respect for their masters. It’s time to give them back that respect – it’s time to remind them that they belong to us, it’s time to let them know what they are – Stock, for us to use and dispose of as we see fit. It’s time to make ‘Domestic Servant’ one of the most popular jobs again.
Now, in terms of Copenhagen, we’ve got fervent greens in most countries, who’ll believe any crap we sell them about saving the planet, and in the UK, Tony and Gordon have done a superb job of dumbing down “the stock”. But without China it’s meaningless. It’s so annoying that they already have control of their “Stock”, so they don’t need climate change to reassert that control. We’ll just have to make do with them supposedly making a commitment – we know these commitments mean nothing anyway. Hopefully by the time we start taking back control of “the stock” it’ll be too late for any of them to do a damn thing about it.
And remember John, we must stay in the shadows. We can only come out when the scales have tipped in our favour.
THE STOCK MUST ONLY SEE THEIR MASTERS AFTER THEY ARE IN CHAINS.
As the Climategate story unpeels throughout the Western world – in spite of the MSM efforts to spike it – I anticipate that elected representatives in legislatures everywhere will come to view “cap-and-trade” bilge like Australia’s ETS as political suicide.
Costly legislation like the ETS can be pushed down the voters’ throats only if they are sold as absolutely vital and undeniably urgent. And with the anthropogenic global warming (AGW) hypothesis now undeniably proven completely bogus –
(the global climate might well be changing, but human activities have nothing whatsoever to do with it)
– there is no way in which the “tax-unto-death” politicians can get any traction. Those who maintain their support for ETS are virtually guaranteed to get gutted like trout in the next elections. Their constituents will arrive at the polls with steam coming out their ears.
If the mainstream media will not discuss Climategate, the incumbents’ opponents certainly will.