Democrats throw in the towel on climate bill

The Wall Street Journal

By IAN TALLEY

WASHINGTON — Key Senate Democrats Tuesday said it is unlikely there will be any more major committee action on climate-change legislation this year, the strongest indication yet that a comprehensive bill to cut greenhouse-gas emissions won’t be voted on until at least next year.

Although the Senate Environment Committee last week approved a version of the bill, the proposal will face strong revisions from moderate Democrats, particularly from senators on the Finance and Agriculture committees.

“It’s common understanding that climate-change legislation will not be brought up on the Senate floor and pass the Senate this year,” Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus said on the sidelines of a caucus lunch.

“I wouldn’t want to bet my paycheck that all the relevant committees will report out legislation by the end of this year,” said Sen. Thomas Carper (D., Del.).

Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D., Mich.), who is leading an effort by moderate, heartland Democrats to protect manufacturing and agriculture industries, said committees were no longer under any timetables to produce legislation.

Even Sen. John Kerry (D., Mass.), a climate-bill champion who last week said committees should have climate legislation processed by the end of the year, Tuesday backed off such expectations. “I don’t want to create artificial deadlines which get in the way of our being methodical about this,” he said.

Instead, Mr. Kerry said he is focused on getting the 60 votes necessary to pass controversial climate legislation — a higher margin than a simple majority and no mean feat. “The main thing to do here is to build the adequate base of support and consensus,” he said.

h/t to Dr. Benny Peiser

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old construction worker
November 13, 2009 6:26 am

This “Energy Bill” is welfare for Wall Street. It will not make us less dependent on foreign energy but it will make us dependent on foreign Carbon Credits. How stupid is that?
How to take it out off EPA’s hands? Easy. Petition State and Federal “Law Makers” to declare CO2 gas a non pollutant.
I know, easier said than done.

Tim Clark
November 13, 2009 6:59 am

Zeke the Sneak (12:38:40) :
[The UN study] also singles out alcohol, which is responsible for around 1.5 per cent of total emissions but contributes little in nutritional value.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3107696/Consumers-should-cut-meat-and-milk-intake-to-combat-climate-change.html
So fight for your co2 like a man! If there be any among you left.

I’ll drink to that.

Pamela Gray
November 13, 2009 8:01 am

I will hold to my promise I made to my legislatures via email: Any vote for CO2/AGW schemes will result in me NEVER voting for the idiots again. I would rather vote in a worm. Their brains are bigger.

Pragmatic
November 13, 2009 8:28 am

“And I’m confident that the American people will recognize the enormous opportunity around a clean energy economy and the ability for us to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions,” he adds.
What we are finally realizing is that we cannot have a vibrant economy if regulation of GHGs are artificially shutting down industry, and enriching commodities traders. This is a transition – not a sprint.
There is a healthy lack of the expression “Climate Change” in the President’s language. Redirecting the campaign to the issue of energy consumption and independence is the key to an accord acceptable by critics.
This would also mean PR stunts with children imploring the President to go to Kobenhaven to save the polar bears… cease. Leave the children out of it.

Ron de Haan
November 13, 2009 3:17 pm

Kerry opens web site to tell the truth about our climate:
Fighting the lies is his ultimate mission, the stakes are to high!
http://www.johnkerry.com/blog
They won’t give up…

Ron de Haan
November 13, 2009 3:30 pm

Clinton: No binding climate deal at Denmark talks
MANILA, Philippines – Next month’s climate change summit in Copenhagen is not likely to produce a legally binding treaty to cut the greenhouse gas emissions that are widely blamed for global warming, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Friday.
Speaking to a town hall meeting of students at a university in the Philippine capital, Clinton said the Obama administration would push instead for a strong “framework agreement” that could become a template for an eventual enforceable pact.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091113/ap_on_bi_ge/climate_change
“the Obama administration would push instead for a strong “framework agreement” that could become a template for an eventual enforceable pact”
That is exactly that part of the Copenhagen Agreement Lord Monckton has been warning us for. It’s exactly that part of the agreement why they started the climate change hoax for in the first place.
An enforcable pact = World Government
Watch this with the eyes of a hawk and call those Senators that we don’t want the US to sign of it’s sovereignty, tell them CO2 is no climate driver and the IPCC is wrong.

Ron de Haan
November 13, 2009 3:40 pm

Solar power lies:
It has become clear that Copenhagen is not about the climate but about World Government. In the mean time Solar and wind are pushed by law.
But what is the price?
http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/2009/11/solar-power-lies.html

Ron de Haan
November 13, 2009 4:20 pm

rbateman (15:46:54) :
“Cap & Trade better than EPA? I doubt seriously that a 50%+ surcharge on everything would be better than a 50%+ tax on all industry.
It matters not whether your car hits a 6′ through oak tree or a brick wall at 65mph.
The vehicle and passenger are both going to get totaled”.
I say no surrender to the hoax.
The push from EPA is intended to pressure the Senate.
The establishment want their Cap & Trade.
If the Senate decides positive we are screwed.
EPA can be put on trial and it cold take years of legal procedures to quite them down.
In the mean time the opposition will grow.
If they can’t be stopped, pack your stuff an look for another country and turn in your passport. This can be done easily and there still are fine places with a good level of development, good medical services and fast internet.
What will a Government do if millions of Americans tun in their passports?

November 13, 2009 5:56 pm

Interesting column from Forbes magazine by Peter Huber: click [scroll down to “Carbon trading”.]

November 14, 2009 7:19 am

How to take it out off EPA’s hands? Easy. Petition State and Federal “Law Makers” to declare CO2 gas a non pollutant.
That will never do. You have to have a positive spin. Declare it a Tree Food and enact a small subsidy. If you want opposition to AGW non-sense it is a good idea to buy it. Cheaper than shutting down our power systems.

Indiana Bones
November 14, 2009 9:05 am

“What will a Government do if millions of Americans tun in their passports?”
What will EPA officials do if they are put on trial for high crimes and misdemeanors?

Gail Combs
November 15, 2009 7:27 am

Thanks much for all the effort – BOOKMARKED.
I am hoping for a very frigid winter this year with the Thames, the Hudson and the Potomac rivers frozen solid. Even then they would twist it around and blame it on Mankind…Sigh
I wonder if tabling the Cap and Trade bill is so Pelosi and Waxman can concentrate their political clout on Waxman’s other treasonous bill HR 2749 (food Safety) It has already passed the house by an overwhelming majority.
The bill has some very strange wording such as ” HR 2749 would give FDA the power to order a quarantine of a geographic area, including “prohibiting or restricting the movement of food or of any vehicle being used or that has been used to transport or hold such food within the geographic area.”” http://farmwars.info/?p=1145
The bill allows the government to micromanage farms and gardens. You would think they had learned from the fiasco they made of farms in the USSR. Given we no longer stockpile surplus, we may have the choice between starvation or freezing to death in coming years… If that is you can find a job to pay for food and heat.
I sometimes think those currently in power have let their victory at the polls in 2008 go to their head and are literally running mad as they try to establish complete control over every aspect of our lives.

Zeke the Sneak
November 15, 2009 9:32 pm

Gail Combs (07:27:18) : Thank you for the heads up on HR 2749.
It seems Congress has so much time on its hands, it wants to manage the dirt under your feet, too.
S.Res.440A resolution recognizing soil as an essential natural resource, and soils professionals as playing a critical role in managing our Nation’s soil resources.
Recognizes:
(1) the necessity to develop and implement best practices for the long-term use of the nation's soil resources; and
(2) the important role of soil scientists and soils professionals. Acknowledges the promise of soil scientists and soils professionals to continue to enrich the lives of all Americans by improving stewardship of the soil, combating soil degradation, and ensuring the future protection and sustainable use of our air, soil, and water resources.

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