
Judith Layzer says there’s no easy way out when it comes to climate change — but that geo-engineering might be a last-ditch solution.
From David Chandler, MIT News Office
In the middle of a day filled with a stream of information-packed PowerPoint displays and alarming projections of what the future holds for our planet and our civilization, Judith Layzer’s talk was something of an anomaly.
Layzer, an assistant professor of environmental policy in MIT’s Department of Urban Studies and Planning, was among the speakers at last Friday’s daylong symposium on “Engineering a Cooler Earth.” She immediately changed the tone of the day’s presentations by dispensing with graphs and charts and speaking only with the aid of her quite expressive gestures.
The symposium was a detailed exploration of a subject that has long been nearly taboo even for polite discussion: that instead of, or in addition to, the emissions-reduction strategies usually looked at as a way to stave off the dangers of global climate change, there might be other ways of solving or at least reducing some of the effects faster, more inexpensively or both, through grand schemes collectively known as geo-engineering. These include two major approaches: pulling carbon dioxide right out of the air, or blocking some percentage of incoming sunlight to reduce temperatures.
Drawing upon colorful anecdotes and historical references, Layzer described the uphill battle the world faces in dealing with the social and political realities of trying to change deeply entrenched habits, systems and interests.
She began by talking about the new bestseller, “SuperFreakonomics,” which ends with a chapter about geo-engineering and has attracted a storm of controversy for its suggestion of a possible cheap, easy fix. “[The authors] begin by saying that catastrophic climate change is unlikely,” Layzer explained, and then go on to suggest that any efforts to curb emissions, though worth pursuing, are likely to be “too little, too late,” but that instead the geo-engineering approach offers an “easy fix.”
The chapter focuses on one particular approach to reducing sunlight: injecting massive amounts of sulfur into the upper atmosphere to mimic the cooling effect observed after the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo in 1991. “There’s a fundamental disagreement,” she suggested, “over whether the risks of geo-engineering exceed the risks of climate change.”
The risks, as several symposium speakers described in detail, include the fact that such an approach would require an essentially permanent commitment to a massive project — injecting two Pinatubo’s-worth of sulfur into the stratosphere every year — that, if stopped at any time, could lead to an even more rapid rise in global temperatures than would happen with no intervention. And the fact that, with increased concentrations of carbon dioxide, oceans would continue to grow more acidic and thwart the growth of any marine shellfish and coral.
Virtually all of the symposium’s presenters agreed that the methods based on reducing sunlight, as with the sulfur injections, are too uncertain and prone to side effects to be serious candidates for solving the problem. Carbon-removal schemes, however, might have some promise and are worth at least researching. These ideas include enhancements to natural biological processes that remove carbon from the air, or the development of technological substitutes such as “artificial trees” that could have the same effect.
Layzer, like most of the symposium’s speakers, framed geo-engineering approaches as something that might turn out to be necessary if other measures fail to take hold, or if the rate of climate change turns out to be worse than expected. In short, something that should be studied just in case.
At its core, the intense controversy over global warming, and over concepts for ameliorating its effects through geo-engineering, is not so much about the science or the technology, she suggested. “The debate is and will continue to be driven by political considerations.”
She said she sees some hope for a common-sense path that may bypass the very different world views of the often-acrimonious sides in debates over global-warming policy. Increasingly, she said, big businesses that for many years were pressuring political leaders to delay any action on controlling carbon emissions now see a new clean-energy future as an opportunity. Helped along by President Barack Obama’s framing of the issue, she said, they have increasingly “changed the image from sacrifice to business gains.”
Nobody thinks the road to mitigating climate change will be easy. Any such efforts involve “going up against the biggest industry in the history of mankind,” Layzer points out. Still, “the political momentum does seem to be real,” she said, “and the collapse of coalitions that have opposed it is the best evidence of that.”
The main focus, she and most of the other symposium speakers emphasized, should remain on curbing greenhouse gas emissions. But with a problem so fraught with uncertainties and political complexities, it makes sense to hedge our bets.
And that’s a point that’s clear enough, without the need for a chart or a graph.
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“big businesses that for many years were pressuring political leaders to delay … now see a new clean-energy future as an opportunity”
Big businesses had no other chance than to prepare for the worst, set by politicians. Now, having prepared themselves they want to see some cashback for the money invested.
So politicians and big business have reached identical mindset:
Science doesn’t matter anymore.
Well, my hope is that average citizen one day will get tired paying for expensive nonsens.
Ron de Haan, could you post some links to the studies debunking ocean acidification?
I’ve suspected it was a lot of hooey, but I haven’t seen the evidence.
Plants need more CO2 not less.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/OpEd-Contributor/Plants-need-more-CO2-not-less-69158857.html
John Wright (02:38:13) :
Ron de Haan (22:55:02) :
“Frontal attack on IPCC climate models by NASA”
“Goddard Institute? Did I read that correctly? What’s this, mutiny aboard Hansen’s ship? Hang them all from the yardarm!”
Yes John, it’s remarkable.
That’s why I wondered if they’ve told the Copenhagen clan already.
blondieBC (05:29:25) :
“This is my favorite idea for geo-engineering – A dam between russia and alaska.
http://www.cleverclimate.org/climate/12/diomede_crossroads/
On the plus side, dam building is proven technology.”
Blondie BC
And what about the migrating whales, do you expect those animals to jump over the dam? Only to compensate for 0.6 degree of computer made warming?
The dam will be there, when Ocean levels drop because it’s getting colder and more ice accumulates at the poles.
LarryD (07:16:49) :
Ron de Haan, could you post some links to the studies debunking ocean acidification?
I’ve suspected it was a lot of hooey, but I haven’t seen the evidence.
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/search-results/279992d17d50674264bd2445eda948ee/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/?s=ocean+acidification
http://www.climatedepot.com/search.asp?cx=partner-pub-2896112664106093%3Am5ewh74pu5c&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Ocean+Acidification&sa=Search#846
Of course, there’s nothing wrong with our climate, so it doesn’t need “fixing”. What needs fixing is the climate madness and carbon-phobia burdening humanity and causing us to do stupid, and even destructive things in the name of a complete fantasy.
Climate Change, Human Impact, Creative Solutions
http://www.treehugger.com/galleries/2009/06/coolest_environmental_advertis.php?page=1
Why is a colder Earth better?
For all those who think Copenhagen will be a disaster, Lord Monckton remembers us once more what our deer political representatives are going to hammer out, despite disagreement about the CO2 reduction quota and the money.
It’s the “political framework”, the main reason they have started the climate scare in the first place.
http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=1225
Not so long ago in human history the best thinkers in medical science had a vague notion that serious diseases had something to do with the blood.
Their proposed treatment? Bleed the patient and dispose of some of that troublesome blood. Sometimes the patient improved because they would have anyway. We know now that bloodletting made things worse in most cases due to anemia. They were utterly unaware of just how much they didn’t know.
Does anyone actually believe that we are so advanced in our understanding of long-term climate change that we know exactly what’s wrong and we can confidently prescribe treatment? Are we arrogantly refusing to acknowlege how much we still don’t know? God help us!
L4 and L5 aren’t between the Sun and the Earth all that often. Like never. L1 is, but isn’t stable. And how much CO2 will it take to get mirrors up there?
Solutions that won’t work.
For a problem that doesn’t exist.
Paid for with money we don’t have.
Makes sense to me.
Welcome to “The Theater of the Absurd”!
http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=4329
More Snow cover this year than last: compare the maps!
No need for any CO2 mitigation or geo-engineering.
Nature takes care of it’s self.
http://themigrantmind.blogspot.com/2009/11/more-snow-this-year-than-last.html
Ms Layzer is an assistant professor (tenure?) with a PhD in Political Science. She is hardly a credible source or qualified to analyze anything to do with any hard science. She might as well be a sociologist.
The communist ruler who brought down the Berlin Wall to start the First Global Revolution:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6908798.ece
We are naturally heading for another glacial period. Why rush it?
There was an illuminating interview on the BBC this morning with the authors of SuperFreakonomics. It started as a joke item, with a question on why suicide bombers should buy life insurance, but then a questions was asked on “climate change”. The authors did not show sufficient respect to the new religion and so the interviewer suddenly became hostile and the whole tone of the interview changed.
Make your obeisance to the new deity or be cast out as a heretic
Curiousgeorge (04:57:50) :
From what I can tell, we’ve been doing geoengineering for about two hundred years, trying to keep it from getting too damn cold. 😉
Apparently, it isn’t working. Hope everyone has a good coat.
I solved global warming at tAV myself this morning – all before 10 am.
Reading this article was the final push to write it.
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/none-of-the-above-an-alternate-solution-to-global-warming/
Ron de Haan (08:30:18) :
“Climate Change, Human Impact, Creative Solutions
http://www.treehugger.com/galleries/2009/06/coolest_environmental_advertis.php?page=1”
And watt will that poor little girl be hanging from – a sky-hook?
This would be like medical experimentation on your own body when you know only the rudiments of physiology. Maybe we need giant, smog-sucking mega-leeches.
Well the solution is so obvious. Since we now know that all we need to cool the planet is more sulphur in the atmosphere; and we are also learnign that CO2 doesn’t have anything to do with global warming; we have the perfect solution.
Start generating all our electricity needs using that “low sulphur” coal that Clinton tied up for ever, to help out his Indonesian buddies; who have the rest of the world’s low sulphur coal.
Well of course it is “low sulphur per tonne” coal’ but then it is also low energy coal so it is actually “high sulphur per Joule” coal.
Burn the stuff to make electricity, and remove all the scrubbers from the chimneys to let the sulphur go.
It would also be environmentally beneficial, because we would never have to mine sulphur again; just get it out of the smokestacks.
Where do they get such idiots from; and how do they ever get anywhere near a university.
As for setting the global thermometer at 70 degrees; I don’t like having to wear a whole lot of clothing layers so I would prefer to set the thermostat at 75 deg F if you don’t mind. That would also save energy and resources, as I wouldn’t need to have so much clothing.
“Manmade snowfall drives Beijing to distraction”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/manmade-snowfall-drives-beijing-to-distraction-1816578.html
“Beijingers are watching the sky apprehensively this weekend after an unexpected, artificially induced snowstorm last weekend caused havoc and led to an outraged response from citizens, who were given no warning”
“An official from the Beijing Weather Modification Office said the boffins had “enhanced” the natural snowfall to ease drought conditions in the city.”
Take care when messing with the weather
Will this happen??????????????
Who’s going to pay for it?
Can it be taxed?
Two questions the powers that be will want answers to.