Boxer-Kerry: "climate" bill or green jobs program?

It seems difficult to figure out just what the Boxer-Kerry bill is these days. If nothing else, its a sloppy rush job, beyond that, is it climate, or something else? How much will it cost? Only the shadow knows.

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Photo by Chris Kleponis. NWF

From Wall Street Journal Blogs Environmental Capital:

By Keith Johnson

Okay, so Sen. Barbara Boxer has moved the energy and climate bill out of the Environment and Public Works Committee and onto the Senate floor. That doesn’t get the bill any closer to garnering 60 votes, but as Sen. Boxer said, it can’t get 60 votes while stuck in committee, either.

The chairwoman of the environment committee defended her decision to pass the bill despite a Republican boycott; usually, Senate panels require at least a token presence of the minority party. Rules do allow for a simple majority vote, rules that “are there to be used when the Majority feels it is in the best interest of their states and of the nation to act,” Sen. Boxer said.

The GOP wants to see more economic analysis of the impacts of the bill, which would create a cap-and-trade program, but Sen. Boxer said another report by the Environmental Protection Agency would be “duplicative and a waste of taxpayer dollars.” The EPA did sort of analyze the current Kerry-Boxer bill, but it largely cribbed from an earlier analysis of a similar House bill.

One interesting thing: Climate change and global warming does seem to be slipping down the list of Democratic talking points. Sen. Boxer said the bill “addresses a crucial issue of our time.”

What would that be? Turns out there’s several—but saving the planet from climate catastrophe isn’t one of them. The bill will “move us away from foreign oil imports that cost Americans one billion dollars a day, it will protect our children from pollution, create millions of clean energy jobs, and stimulate billions of dollars of private investment,” Sen. Boxer said.

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Terry Jackson
November 6, 2009 7:24 pm

As one law professor is wont to say, the country is in the very best of hands. And then he adds something about the rubes discovering who they are.

Alvin
November 6, 2009 7:37 pm

The leftists are all about control and about association. That is why Graham is now on the side of the Alarmists.

spangled drongo
November 6, 2009 7:44 pm

The lemmings seem so determined to have their day. In Australia likewise.
Why do I get the feeling, though, that the “Great Orchestrators” will step back from the cliff at the last moment as the rest of us disappear over the edge.

November 6, 2009 7:56 pm

They all look so miserable in that picture.
Glad to see it!

Ron de Haan
November 6, 2009 7:58 pm

Cap&Trade is the objective, the climate and green jobs is the dressing.
Stepping Stone to Copenhagen the true objective.
Fortunately Kerry is promoting this bill and everybody knows he is an ass and Boxer is lying her pants off.

D. King
November 6, 2009 8:16 pm

Does anyone actually believe this garbage anymore?
Ron de Haan (19:58:17) :
“…Boxer is lying her pants off.”
Scary!

Zeke the Sneak
November 6, 2009 8:24 pm

What is a “green job?”
I heard about one green job plan here locally. It involved removing incandescent lights, and screwing in mercury light bulbs.

Neo
November 6, 2009 8:42 pm

Sen. Barbara Boxer has moved the energy and climate bill out of the Environment and Public Works Committee and onto the Senate floor
Apparently by breaking Senate rules requiring minor members present for the vote.

Mike Bryant
November 6, 2009 8:43 pm

I have feeling that all the green jobs will go to SEIU/ACORN… Poor unions haven’t been paid off enough yet… How many millions did they donate to get the billions upon billions of bailouts?
We wouldn’t buy enough Chrysler and GM products, so they figured ourt how to get our money anyway… Now the unions have large stakes in the corporations… Surprise surprise surprise… AIG absolutely HAD to be bailed out because they hold the retirement accounts of the senate and congress…
Isn’t it grand???
Change we can believe in…

November 6, 2009 8:43 pm

Hmmm … Green Jobs –
Is this handing out ‘the green’, collecting the green, watering ‘the green’, MOWING ‘the green’, ROLLING ‘the green’ … ???
This phrase has become so over-used/over-worn it means nothing to me at the present …

rbateman
November 6, 2009 8:50 pm

To my self-esteemed Senator Barbara Boxer:
This news flash is for you….
“Saturday, June 4, 1884. Trinity Journal
Weather – Never was there so many showers known in this portion of California as there have been in the present Spring. During the past week we have had a shower every evening.
Old Settlers here inquire: “Is our climage changing?”
It appears so.
June 14, 1884
Rained every day this week.
June 20, 1884
Wednesday had 1″ of ice in pails.
It would be 70 years until the perfect weather of the mid 1800’s would return to California. Too bad it’s lost on the Senator.

rbateman
November 6, 2009 8:59 pm

Zeke the Sneak (20:24:48) :
And don’t forget where that CFL comes from, and who was responsible for seeing to it that GE, Sylvania and Westinghouse walked across the Pacific to China.
It ain’t Mr. Greenjeans.
Nope. It’s the 1st name in the topic header.

par5
November 6, 2009 9:11 pm

“Only the shadow knows.”
We are showing our age here….

Zeke the Sneak
November 6, 2009 9:21 pm

rbateman (20:59:35) :
And don’t forget where that CFL comes from, and who was responsible for seeing to it that GE, Sylvania and Westinghouse walked across the Pacific to China.

green job — digging holes (for the burial of the economy)
Sad!

Jim G.
November 6, 2009 9:22 pm

If they are determined to get us off foreign energy dependence, then why did the President kill the nuclear power option?
The admin pulled the plug on Yucca Mountain without an alternative for waste disposal.
Now the plants in operation won’t be able to renew their liscenses unless they have sufficient onsite storage, of which some are running out.

mr.artday
November 6, 2009 9:46 pm

Always remember that bovine semi-solid body waste is…GREEN.

November 6, 2009 10:57 pm

Dollars are green.

Mr Green Genes
November 7, 2009 12:20 am

rbateman (20:59:35) :
It ain’t Mr. Greenjeans.

WUWT??? 🙂

November 7, 2009 12:25 am

Senator Boxer is not wearing glasses.

November 7, 2009 12:25 am

Here is a decent political analysis:
http://solveclimate.com/blog/20091105/congressional-rules-take-leading-role-us-climate-progress
The main point is that Harry Reid actually agrees with the Republicans, or feels it is in his best interest to do so at this point at least: the bill will be further delayed by 5 weeks to have the EPA analysis completed (don’t be surprised if it’s as flawed as the EPA’s analysis of Waxman-Markey, which through various dubious methods determined that the cost to American families would be the same as “a postage stamp per day.”
Note that in committee Max Baucus (Montana) voted against the bill out of concern with the effect on farming (and inability to offer his amendments due to Boxer’s rules maneuver). Jay Rockefeller (West Virginia) is on record against the current bill (and also comments that it may not be taken up until after the 2010 elections). These are not even among the most centrist Democrats in the Senate.
Even with whatever mischief Lindsey Graham is up to, there are just not votes there for this bill without major changes (at least, maybe not even then), and Harry Reid knows it…which is why the bill will not be brought up this year, IMO. And Graham, after hearing from his constituents and considering Boxer’s hyperpartisan methods, has a good chance of reconsidering as well.

Mike Campbell
November 7, 2009 3:51 am

Love those signs.

old construction worker
November 7, 2009 5:41 am

This CO2 Cap and Tax bill must be defeated. It is welfare for Wall Street. It will not make us less dependent on foreign energy. It will make us dependent on foreign Carbon Credits. How stupid is that?

Jim
November 7, 2009 6:09 am

Does Kerry think the more smug he can muster, the more likely someone takes him seriously?

Harold Vance
November 7, 2009 6:38 am

If passed, it’s going to be a gravy train for Al Gore and his cronies.

Mark
November 7, 2009 7:39 am

“We should never be more vigilant than at the moment a new dogma is being installed. The claque endorsing what is now dignified as “the mainstream theory” of global warming stretches all the way from radical greens through Al Gore to George W. Bush, who signed on at the end of May. The left has been swept along, entranced by the allure of weather as revolutionary agent, naïvely conceiving of global warming as a crisis that will force radical social changes on capitalism.”
-ALEXANDER COCKBURN, TheNation
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070625/cockburn