You won’t want to miss Lord Christopher Monckton (Former advisor to UK Prime Minister Thatcher) on Glenn Beck – Today Friday, October 30th!
Monckton as many WUWT readers know, is a prominent skeptic and has been making presentations around the USA at college campuses, similar to what Al Gore does. Monckton recently criticized the Copenhagen Treaty and the potential for President Obama to sign it as possibly ceding US sovereignty to the UN on the issue.
Times below:
Monckton will be on Fox News Glenn Beck Show, with former UN Ambassador John Bolton, for the full hour. The topic will be all aspects of the Global Warming Scare and the push for a “new world order” to “deal” with it.
Expect fireworks!
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UPDATE:
Video of the interview is now available here
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It’s been mention that it is too bad that this highly informative scientific site is turning to discussions of politics. And I agree, however it is true that the non-science promulgated by alarmists HAS been politcized, for far too long, and that the real science surrounding climate and discussion thereof has been largely ignored, and this poses and very real threat to the future of society but also to the pursuit of real and honest scientific endeavors. It is not enough that right thinking men and women sit back allow the truth to become self-evident, the damage will have already been done. It is imperative that honest, thoughtful, women and men become active to stop alarmism and misinformation NOW. We should not suffer the bastardization of scientific research.
Has anyone noticed that left wingers have absolutly no sense of humor and they they are unable to detect sarcasm?
For those of you who don’t like Fox or Beck; don’t watch.
Just sit there in the dark. It will be good training for you as
Cap and Trade fundamentally changes your life.
he’s got competition:
Super Models take it off for Global Warming 🙂
Robert M. (12:52:47)
That’s not funny!
Common sense from Nova again:
Bankers, Lawyers, Investors, disappointed shucks.
This is about the essence of Cap&Trade, let’s destroy it.
http://joannenova.com.au/2009/10/bankers-lawyers-investors-disappointed-shucks/
Dgregg :
“This is not political debate – certainly not one for FCC regulated, tax-payer supported airwaves.”
The only public, taxpayer funded radio show is the very left-leaning NPR, or National Public Radio. One can usually can find it down in the lower 90’s FM. Listen to the truthful debate on it, NOT.
This hour should be one of the more enlightening hours of the 5 pm EST time slot. While you may not accept Beck’s positions on anything, he is extremely thought-provoking. His “What if I am right?” take on the Marxist agenda of the Obama administration is right on target. [http://obamaism.blogspot.com/]. Having Monckton on FOX, the most-viewed cable channel in the nation, should serve to dramatically open the eyes to a very large and THINKING American audience. And it looks like the AGW Alarmists will likely fall into the trap of throwing the baby out with the bathwater [“Exaggerated claims undermine drive to cut emissions, scientists warn: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/earth-environment/article6896152.ece%5D.
It behooves us all to do our own research on how treaties affect domestic law in our respective countries.
In the US, treaties override state laws and so is a direct threat to our sovereignty. Not only that, courts and judges are beginning to refer to Common International Law in rendering decisions. This phrase is mentioned in the Constitution, but it was never the original intent that international law should be viewed as a unity with domestic law.
It is at least obvious that a judicial creep towards international laws is a battle we will be/are facing, and is only exacerbated by the signing of outrageous treaties signing away our GDP and setting up a world government.
A brief primer for the UK, the US and Australia from the Australian Dep’t of Foreign Affairs on the subject of treaties and domestic law.
http://www.dfat.gov.au/treaties/workshops/treaties_global/jennings.html
I am a 100% sceptic. Monckton is a very good speaker but he is behaving like a clown, playing up to the American right wing crowd for money (the lecture circuit). He’s a lot smarter than that. He was an adviser to Margaret Thatcher.
Anyone seen as being identified with the American extreme right (like Beck) will be utterly dismissed by the mainstream.
Here is an excellent post from another Monckton thread. I realize it is TLDR for many, but it is worth repeating if it is alright with the moderators:
alistewart (07:00:20) :
Interesting site and debate, even for a layman. I do not have sufficient scientific background to be able to come to any conclusion on AGW, (yes or no). I do have enough education to follow most of the arguments and some of the maths. From my own more particular experience of decision-making, in business I would make the following observations:-
There are two sides to the argument, both with some cogent evidence. But neither with all the facts, by any means. Worse, “facts” on both sides are too often based in insufficient data- erroneous assumptions- fallacious hypotheses. Even worse they are then used to extrapolate yet more but insufficient data into scenarios which support the result required rather than the actual result. Worse still, the data, hypothesis and resultant scenario are presented with so much emotion, window-dressing and hyperbole as to be unintelligible to anyone but God.
This is the nature of decision making. It is usually difficult to sort the wood from the trees. My experience is that to make fundamental decisions in such circumstances is to mostly invoke the law of unintended consequences- very expensive and inconvenient. ( 9 times out of ten the best response is to ask for more data, test the stuff you have and replay the hypotheses. At this point the arguments start to stack up a little better one way or the other, particularly if the second round of research is directed intelligently to cut to the chase while ignoring the chaff. Usually, doesn’t take too long and very often presents other options not previously considered. The worst argument I have most often heard is “we’re running out of time”. That is rarely the case- most bad decisions are made in haste.
We are at the point that the two scientific positions are at absolute loggerheads. Observationally, neither able to concede a single point to the other for fear that the whole house of cards will crumble (DDT in point). That is a scene that reeks of dogma, on both sides, suggesting that neither side is 100% confident. So, yes more research.
Certainly what I can see from the evidence is that the last few years data do suggest that we have more time, that since ‘95 the rate of global warming has been negative, since ‘07 the ice packs have not melted, and that climate change may not have gone away by any means but is at least in remission, affording us more time. Let’s take some and have some generally accepted proofs rather than opinion.
I in now way see the fact that the scientific community has differing opinions, myriad opinions as an indictment. On the contrary, it is surely healthy, but only if the debate is propelled. What I currently see is far more energy expended on shoring up entrenched positions than the pursuit of knowledge.
So why has that happened? Here we come to the politics.
It s impossible to separate them from the science, like it or not. Research is now so expensive as to be prohibited without sponsorship, from somewhere. Government, Commerce and academia all have vested interests. We cannot be so naive as to imagine that they will throw billions of dollars at potential results that do not suit them in place of results that do.That is not to say that the recipients of such sponsorship are charlatans, but it must mean that often the research is diverted toward “more useful channels”. It is inevitable; few creatures wish to bite the hand that feeds them, and certainly have to provide some sort of value for money as decided by the paymaster. In that way some data, results, conclusions do get weighted/skewed. Not sure which way necessarily, but it’s likely.
So, I am not persuaded of imminent irreversible climate change or global warming, nor am I convinced of man’s contribution. I am not convinced that CO2 or equivalents are the fundamental catalyst in the process and I am less convinced that a carbon based solution is the right or only one to the problem.
I am convinced that a Global, hugely complex, highly engineered, incredibly expensive solution deigned to fix a problem as yet undefined, is never going to be 100% right.
For sure we need the second round of research to start now, and it should have some definition, to speed up the cycle time, but to suggest that we only have “50 days to save the planet” is lamentable
A long post I think, so a credit to the site that it has motivated me so far. I will spend another two pennerth on Copenhagen specifically, based again in the decision making I have been involved with and the unintended consequences that I have personally suffered as a result.
I have not seen any scientific analysis that has said “Early Dec ‘09 is the last possible date for a decision. By Christmas we are beyond the tipping point- catastrophe is inevitable” In fact, not one amongst even the shrillest eco-warriors has suggested this is the case. No-one has suggested a tipping point on any particular dateline. Of course we don’t want to waste time but Copenhagen goes way, way beyond science. No I haven’t read it all, but enough to know this is commercial and political. It is the vested interests that are demanding the timeline.
Suggests to me the politics are much more important than the science. Well, for those of us in the UK and Eire who have seen the effect of reversible agreements, voluntary treaties, enabling agreements, outstanding ratifications on supra governmental constitutions, et-al the unintended consequences have been unimaginable. When Heath took us into the Common Market as was then, we thought we were signing up to a free trade agreement centred mainly on agricultural trade.
Little did we realise that the EU as it has become would be more onerous than the dead hand of the politburo on the Soviet’s satellites. It’s edicts from the unelected commission now pervade every facet of our lives, eroding our freedoms, traditions and our very way of life. Magna Carta, on which the US constitution was largely modelled, 800 years of law, Habeus Corpus, gone at the stroke of a pen. Such is the rate of creep, of Brussels over our activities that
we have had more laws enacted in the last ten years than in the previous 2 centuries, many drawn up by unelected officials, sadly 80% of them in Brussels. Our parliament is now all but ineffective having ceded power to the EU so much so that there is now nothing we can do about it. Whatever they want they get- more taxes, more bureaucracy, more control. Although Lisbon is not quite in place, we are already operating as though it were, and when the Checks cave in as they will be forced to they will have the lot. The end of the United Kingdom as we know it. There is nothing we can do about it.
I see too many parallels with The New World Order signalled in the Copenhagen draft. It is more than the thin end of a wedge.
Let’s be careful what we wish for.
I love Glen Beck, and have two of his books.
He isn’t a reporter. He’s a political commentator. However, a lot of what he comments on is not covered by the main stream media or journalists, and if it is, it is very poor and predictably biased. He’s not right wing at all. But, as someone once said, “The Left are so far left that everything else is to the right by comparison”.
It’s not surprising that he has so many listeners/viewers or that those numbers are growing (personally, I canceled my cable some time ago; Fox news would probably be one of the few I’d keep. The local radio station hosts both Beck and Limbaugh, though). Politicians are gutless on both sides of the isle – with a few notable exceptions – and are simply ignoring what is the right way to allow the people to prosper.
Beck has had Lord Monckton on several times, and he truly is a breath of fresh (commentary) air. One of the few valuable exports from the UK – I know there are more like him over there; it’s time to pack your bags and come on over. SAD will be a thing of the past; I can tell you that from experience!
I’ll throw my 2 cents in …. Glenn Beck is a Libertarian, Deanster
So many like to call themselves that these days. If they don’t want to destroy the Federal Reserve System or at least allow banking and money competition then they are just phonies, IMO. Or maybe Ron Paul and I are anarchists.
Deborah (11:43:53) :
We would do more digging if we had access.
That’s the problem. It took Steve McIntyre how many years to drag the data out of Briffa? AGW Utopian Fantasy Agenda is way ahead of that “science debate” that should have taken place years ago, and now sits poised to pass legislation based on events that are not happening.
The fight is now at the political level.
How much access do we have there?
Last time the GOP tried to bring in it’s star witness to the Climate Hearings, the Dems slammed the door in his face AFTER his plane had landed.
After which, Mr. Nobel Prize Warmist ran away with a pasty look on his face.
Fetch that video. Did Gore go weak-kneed at the sight of Monckton?
Oh yeah, we got access, but not where it counts. Not yet anyway.
I do apologise but my pedantic gene will not be quiet until I have corrected what appears to be the common American mispronunciation of the title “Viscount”.
It is pronounced “Vie-count” not “Viss-count”.
To hear a Lord of the Realm introduced as a “Viss-count” makes a true-blue Limey cringe!
hotrod
You can find his shows here, sorted by weeks.
http://glennbeckclips.com/
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The video clips (usually six clips) are posted on YouTube at, or shortly after, 6:00 PM Eastern Standard Time by the owner of the glennbeckclips blog.
A constitutional lawyer friend has informed me that treaties do not alter or amend the constitution of the United States. Amending the constitution requires the process described in Article 5 of the constitution.
The key phrase in Article 6 of the constitution is that “treaties are made under the authority of the United States.”
Beck describes his show as opinion and backs-up his opinion with quotes and videos of the miscreants he is exposing.
Mark Steyn has an article in MACLEANS.CA showing the close relationship between the AGW mongers and the enviro-wackos: http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/10/29/gullible-eager-beaver-planet-savers/
The article is supportive of Lord Monckton’s opinion that the COP-15 agreement is a first step in a new world government:
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“I’m always appreciative when a fellow says what he really means. Tim Flannery, the jet-setting doomsaying global warm-monger from down under, was in Ottawa the other day promoting his latest eco-tract, and offered a few thoughts on “Copenhagen”—which is transnational-speak for December’s UN Convention on Climate Change. “We all too often mistake the nature of those negotiations in Copenhagen,” remarked professor Flannery. “We think of them as being concerned with some sort of environmental treaty. That is far from the case. The negotiations now ongoing toward the Copenhagen agreement are in effect diplomacy at the most profound global level. They deal with every aspect of our life and they will influence every aspect of our life, our economy, our society.”
Hold that thought: “They deal with every aspect of our life.” Did you know every aspect of your life was being negotiated at Copenhagen? But in a good way! So no need to worry. After all, we all care about the environment, don’t we? So we ought to do something about it, right? And, since “the environment” isn’t just in your town or county but spreads across the entire planet, we can only really do something at the planetary level. But what to do? According to paragraph 38 on page 18 of the latest negotiating text, the convention will set up a “government” to manage the “new funds” and the “related facilitative processes.” – Mark Steyn
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Goodnight Ms. Dunn, wherever you are!
NPR is in the pool with Global Warming. They do NOT return emails or answer questions regarding it, for they are a “Science is Settled” position. They interview one side, and one side only. Nobody can call in and question the interviewees who espouse Global Warming.
I used to enjoy listening to NPR’s Science Friday.
The Door is Shut.
It was made by those who are Warmists.
And the Warmists keep it.
NikFromNYC (12:29:01) :
Fox News can be viewed at only one remaining site:
http://www.tvpc.com/Channel.php?ChannelID=2041
You must first install Real Player for it to work:
http://www.real.com/realplayer
Nik, thanks for the link.
Do you know if viewing is restricted to US/GB located logg ins because I can’t open the the broadcast screen?
“SAD will be a thing of the past”
I live in the second wettest town in the UK (near Glasgow). It doesn’t get SADder than that.
I felt that Monckton was playing up to his American audience with views he doesn’t hold and was also laughing at them more than once. He suggested the reason they didn’t know something was ‘just because you are yanks’. Very close to the bone.
I see AGW as a left wing issue fighting carbon trading which was set up by the oil companies and is heavily supported by the banksters.
Kyoto, Enron and Gore.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sealed/gw/enron.htm
Whilst you were all bickering over the political stance of the Fox News reporter, here in Euroland the various nations leaders have come to an agreement to pass £90BN over third world countries – the divi up to be decided at Copenhagen.
Some of the smaller hard up EU nations will pay less than others and there are no prizes for guessing who will end up with the lion’s share of the bill.
Our half witted gullible idiot of a Prime Minister, having emptied the coffers in a 10 year spending spree on welfare in the belief that he had ended boom and bust and turned economics on it’s head, and having racked up the biggest borrowing requirement in our history that will take generations to repay, is going to hand over gratis even more money to save the world – this time from AGW.
What will be his legacy? When this scam has run it’s course and reality sets in he will be regarded as the biggest buffoon in our history.
Back2Bat (13:33:25) :
Perhaps ya’ll are a bit of that. But you know the libertarians are a pretty mixed, and not usually so cohesive, group of individuals. Like herding cats. Which is why the “Big L’s” seldom win an election. And Ron Paul (I do like that guy, btw, even participated once in a machine-gun shoot where he popped a few caps) runs as a Republican.
Chuck, a “small ell” kinda guy
Ed Scott (13:37:49) :
A constitutional lawyer friend has informed me that treaties do not alter or amend the constitution of the United States. Amending the constitution requires the process described in Article 5 of the constitution.
Yes, but a treaty can trump state laws!
Eric Smith (13:26:13) :
he is behaving like a clown, playing up to the American right wing crowd for money (the lecture circuit). He’s a lot smarter than that.
I would agree that he’s a lot smarter than that. That’s why I think he’s not in the circuit for money. You should go with your instincts that tell you he is smarter than that and not say he’s a clown in it for the money. You sure you’re on the ‘skeptics’ side??
I’m pretty sure he’s rich and doesn’t need the small amount they pay for appearing on the show. And I’m pretty sure he’s doing the show because of Glenn Beck’s ratings. He will reach enough people to put a real wedge in ‘manmade global warming’. It will be noticeable in poll numbers. And that wedge could be the beginning of the end for AGW here in America since the two harsh winters in a row, and the beginning of what looks like an even harsher winter, already has people questioning Al Gore’s global warming.
The science and politics presented by Monckton today could be what makes a clear turn in the tide here.
10 minutes to show time!!! I should get some popcorn!
rbateman (13:35:04) :
Agreed. We need to be as tenacious in regaining and retaining our freedoms as the statists have been in taking them away. Remember that they’ve been working towards these ends for decades. It will take time. But with the motivation of liberty we will win.
It’s funny that this generation that is running our government was the one whose mantra was “Question Authority” back in the ’60’s but now that they’re in power their new mantra is “shut up, we know what’s best”.
We just have to love freedom and life more than they love slavery and destruction.
We have to win. The alternative is too horrible to consider.
Didn’t I read once that only about 30% of the American Colonists supported the Revolution? hmmm…have to go find that again…
Gene Nemetz (11:49:21) :
Ron de Haan (10:06:24) :
just the video, this link works
http://online.wsj.com/public/page/0_0_WP_3001.html?currentPlayingLocation=8¤tlyPlayingCollection=Business¤tlyPlayingVideoId=6E28205E-E862-4BBE-A65D-DE5391D13BAF”
Gene, thanks for the link.
I’ve watched the video and it’s a warmist’s attempt to make an excuse for the crooked models and explain the current cooling, but at the same time stating that the number of scientists that support the consensus is growing and the majority of scientists believe the warming will continue.
To be falsified:
1. There is no consensus
2. I doubt the number of scientists joining the “consensus” is growing!, I think more and more scientists are convinced AGW is a hoax.
3. There is no indication that the current cooling is temporary and the warming is going to continue.
4. It is stated that ocean temperature data is hard to come by.
This too is not true because we have satellite ocean surface data, buoy and shipping data and we have the argo network data.
In short: this video contains information based on half true’s and even factual lies which makes it propaganda.