Reposted from comments on the new Urban Future thread here
Originally from the blog Fightin’ Words
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Above: Obama’s last visit to Copenhagen didn’t work out so well for the USA.
The Minnesota Free Market Institute hosted an event at Bethel University in St. Paul on Wednesday evening. Keynote speaker Lord Christopher Monckton, former science adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, gave a scathing and lengthy presentation, complete with detailed charts, graphs, facts, and figures which culminated in the utter decimation of both the pop culture concept of global warming and the credible threat of any significant anthropomorphic climate change.
A detailed summary of Monckton’s presentation will be available here once compiled. However, a segment of his remarks justify immediate publication. If credible, the concern Monckton speaks to may well prove the single most important issue facing the American nation, bigger than health care, bigger than cap and trade, and worth every citizen’s focused attention.
Here were Monckton’s closing remarks, as dictated from my audio recording:
At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed. Your president will sign it. Most of the third world countries will sign it, because they think they’re going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regime from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won’t sign it.
I read that treaty. And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfication of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.
How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it.
[laughter]
And the trouble is this; if that treaty is signed, if your Constitution says that it takes precedence over your Constitution (sic), and you can’t resign from that treaty unless you get agreement from all the other state parties – And because you’ll be the biggest paying country, they’re not going to let you out of it.
So, thank you, America. You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege merely to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free. But, in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your humanity away forever. And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back. That is how serious it is. I’ve read the treaty. I’ve seen this stuff about [world] government and climate debt and enforcement. They are going to do this to you whether you like it or not.
But I think it is here, here in your great nation, which I so love and I so admire – it is here that perhaps, at this eleventh hour, at the fifty-ninth minute and fifty-ninth second, you will rise up and you will stop your president from signing that dreadful treaty, that purposeless treaty. For there is no problem with climate and, even if there were, an economic treaty does nothing to [help] it.
So I end by saying to you the words that Winston Churchill addressed to your president in the darkest hour before the dawn of freedom in the Second World War. He quoted from your great poet Longfellow:
Sail on, O Ship of State!
Sail on, O Union, strong and great!
Humanity with all its fears,
With all the hopes of future years,
Is hanging breathless on thy fate!
Lord Monckton received a standing ovation and took a series of questions from members of the audience. Among those questions were these relevent to the forthcoming Copenhagen treaty:
Question: The current administration and the Democratic majority in Congress has shown little regard for the will of the people. They’re trying to pass a serious government agenda, and serious taxation and burdens on future generations. And there seems to be little to stop them. How do you propose we stop Obama from doing this, because I see no way to stop him from signing anything in Copenhagen. I believe that’s his agenda and he’ll do it.
I don’t minimize the difficulty. But on this subject – I don’t really do politics, because it’s not right. In the end, your politics is for you. The correct procedure is for you to get onto your representatives, both in the US Senate where the bill has yet to go through (you can try and stop that) and in [the House], and get them to demand their right of audience (which they all have) with the president and tell him about this treaty. There are many very powerful people in this room, wealthy people, influential people. Get onto the media, tell them about this treaty. If they go to www.wattsupwiththat.com, they will find (if they look carefully enough) a copy of that treaty, because I arranged for it to be posted there not so long ago. Let them read it, and let the press tell the people that their democracy is about to be taken away for no good purpose, at least [with] no scientific basis [in reference to climate change]. Tell the press to say this. Tell the press to say that, even if there is a problem [with climate change], you don’t want your democracy taken away. It really is as simple as that.
[Update: this section on a question from an attendee to the presentation has been removed from this WUWT article because even though Monckton clearly refuted it, it is turning into a debate over presidential eligibility that I don’t want at WUWT. If you want to see it and discuss it. Do it at the original blog entry Fightin’ Words – Anthony]
Regardless of whether global warming is taking place or caused to any degree by human activity, we do not want a global government empowered to tax Americans without elected representation or anything analogous to constitutional protections. The Founding Fathers would roll over in their graves if they knew their progeny allowed a foreign power such authority, effectively undoing their every effort in an act of Anti-American Revolution. If that is our imminent course, we need to put all else on hold and focus on stopping it. If American sovereignty is ceded, all other debate is irrelevant.
Edited to add @ 8:31 am:
Skimming through the treaty, I came across verification of Monckton’s assessment of the new entity’s purpose:
38. The scheme for the new institutional arrangement under the Convention will be based on three basic pillars: government; facilitative mechanism; and financial mechanism, and the basic organization of which will include the following:
World Government (heading added)
a) The government will be ruled by the COP with the support of a new subsidiary body on adaptation, and of an Executive Board responsible for the management of the new funds and the related facilitative processes and bodies. The current Convention secretariat will operate as such, as appropriate.
To Redistribute Wealth (heading added)
b) The Convention’s financial mechanism will include a multilateral climate change fund including five windows: (a) an Adaptation window, (b) a Compensation window, to address loss and damage from climate change impacts [read: the “climate debt” Monckton refers to], including insurance, rehabilitation and compensatory components, © a Technology window; (d) a Mitigation window; and (e) a REDD window, to support a multi-phases process for positive forest incentives relating to REDD actions.
With Enforcement Authority (heading added)
c) The Convention’s facilitative mechanism will include: (a) work programmes for adaptation and mitigation; (b) a long-term REDD process; © a short-term technology action plan; (d) an expert group on adaptation established by the subsidiary body on adaptation, and expert groups on mitigation, technologies and on monitoring, reporting and verification; and (e) an international registry for the monitoring, reporting and verification of compliance of emission reduction commitments, and the transfer of technical and financial resources from developed countries to developing countries. The secretariat will provide technical and administrative support, including a new centre for information exchange [read; enforcement].
UPDATE: Thanks to WUWT reader “Michael” who post the URL on another unrelated thread, we now have video of Lord Monckton’s presentation:
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A world government has been the overall goal of the UN since the 70’s.
Global warming was just a convenient excuse (until it inconveniently stopped) to seemingly unite everyone against a common enemy.
No matter what evidence is produced to disprove the AGW theory, the movement hurtles on like a runaway train, with ever more outrageous claims and propaganda.
I’ve followed this issue for a number of years and thought I understood all of the factors at play. But I didn’t realise just how widely all of the political processes were being influenced and corrupted by the environmentalist movements until I read http://www.green-agenda.com .
Not a conspiracy theory. Just a conspiracy.
My beliefs are this: If you can’t make your point in a paragraph or two, then your point is not worth listening to. Multiple words do not make one smart.
Comments should be restricted to four paragraphs at most. If you want to quote a story then just link it. Life us way too short to listen to the freaks of society.
I don’t mind that my comments regarding birther theory were snipped for being off-topic, but in that case I’d like to see all the other ones snipped, too. Otherwise I’d like my comments to be reinstated, thanks.
Thumbs up to Anthony for posting the closing remarks of Lord Christopher Monckton’s presentation at the Minnesota Free Market Institute. I see Joe D’Aleo at http://icecap.us/ and the folks at carbon climate.info have done the same.
Thumbs up to Ron de Haan for his recent post. Forget fascism and any form of socialism in my opinion… though occasionally attractive… to true capitalism communism, as is used in China, is most attractive. Laissez-faire capitalism as used in the US surely has proven its shortcomings.
With all this I’m reminded of the remarkable history of the Rothschilds and a quote of John F. Hylan in 1911 “the real menace of our republic is the invisible government…At the head ‘international bankers.'” This site has it close to what I recall having researched if you want to take a look. Hope its all for naught!
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=6177
History of the Rothschilds
“Has your coffee tasted like watermelon, lately?”
Green on the outside, red on the inside.
A Strategic View:
Nobody knows if Lord Monckton is over-reacting or not.
But if Monckton is over-reacting, no harm done.
However, if everyone assumes Monckton is over-reacting and he is not, enormous harm is the result.
So great concern about the terms and impacts of the Copenhagen Treaty is the only logical path.
So call your Congressman, Senator or MP and tell them to reject this intrusive, dangerous Treaty.
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TA (20:48:55) :
I don’t mind that my comments regarding birther theory were snipped for being off-topic, but in that case I’d like to see all the other ones snipped, too. Otherwise I’d like my comments to be reinstated, thanks.
Typical. I actually think that Anthony may have posted this to “out” the nuts that post on this blog and show them for what they are.
The internet has failed American History. Will it also fail scientific discovery? Are we spiraling down the abyss when it comes to truth?
I think so.
Deech56 (18:54:51) :
RE: jorgekafkazar (11:11:12) : “Has your coffee tasted like watermelons lately?”
I think they mean that watermellons are green on the the outside and red in the centre i.e. alluding that such prople are environmentalists on the outside but really communists by nature.
Such sweeping statements really irritate me. Most environmentalists have a concern for the planet not a desire to rule the world. I consider myself reasonably greeen and I get quite annoyed that I am labeled a lefty for this. Sure there are some people that have both social and environmental concerns and what is wrong with this?
The trouble is that hysteria has taken over in the far green corner and by the look of it, Monckton is doing similar nonsense for the sceptics. Stick to the science if you want to challenge AGW.
Tom in Texas (20:58:36) :
“Has your coffee tasted like watermelon, lately?”
Green on the outside, red on the inside.
See above.
Dave vs Hal (21:26:27) :
I consider myself reasonably greeen and I get quite annoyed that I am labeled a lefty for this.
Well then Dave vs Hal; tell us all what being greeen means. Since you are greeen, you should have no problem enlightening us.
More proof positive of what I’ve blogged about before with the ever growing differences of the United States and America. In the United States, where crap is king, and credit, credit, credit, is their mantra, they figure that they are free to do whatever will put more money into their pockets, even at our expense. Meanwhile, we in America, who are generally stupid enough to believe that the government here is legitimate, we actually believe that we have some rights, and that we have someone who will look out for those rights, and support us when we say “NO MORE”. To me there is no more United States OF America, just the United States AND America. I learned several years ago that if there is no one in your corner (i.e. you haven’t bought them), you have no rights. They gave them to us 220 years ago, but they didn’t leave us the one thing that would allow us the ability to fend off the suspension of our rights: Real power to remove those who have been elected without resorting to the congress and senate, who see anything of the sort as a threat to their own corruption. Let me make this clear: I do NOT advocate the overthrow of the U.S. Government! That said, Obama can do whatever he damn well pleases to us as a country because the only people with any real ability to remove him or any other demagogue are the people who are already showing (via healthcare, taxing us while not taxing certain corporations, giving themselves annual raises while not raising the minnimum wage for ten years) that they value something other than the will of the American people. If we say “NO” to the treaty, and he says “So what”, the only thing we can do is harrass our “elected officials”, who haven’t listened to our pleas for health care reform, haven’t listened to our pleas for better schools, and would rather spend (literally) more than $1 BILLION a day to play in the dirt on Mars, than to give that money back to the American people or to provide health care to every American. Obama’s own Alma Mater released a study recently that stated that 44,000 Americans die every year due to lack of access to quality healthcare. If the Congress thinks nothing of killing 120 Americans a day to keep the health insurer’s wallets fat, do you really believe they give a damn about the desire of the American people to remain a sovereign nation? No folks, the only question now is weather there will be a second American Revolution against a government that lives in a far off land (Washington D.C.-you’d think it was on another planet the way they act toward American needs), tax the hell out of us, tell us that the tax money is there’s to do with as they please, and then give sweetheart deals to their friends, at taxpayer expense. The previous precedent for that was the East India Tea Company. Now it’s the Banks, the Automakers, and the insurance companies. The biggest problem here is that instead of having 50% of 300 million Americans being loyalists and the other half lacking, for the most part competence to defend our freedoms, we have about 20% who prefer anything Obama says, 20% who oppose whatever he says, and 60% who don’t want to be bothered with any of it, hoping that someone else will fight the battles so that they can have their damn cappucinnos and credit cards. I always wanted my daughter to grow up in the United States OF America, not the United Stated OR America. I pray that soon enough those of us who value our FREEDOM and this country, with GOD’s good graces, wrest it back from the democrats and republicans whose sole purpose is to make themselves comfortable, even at the deaths of their own brethren. Let’s face it, if they were to impeach Obama and remove him from office for treason, for signing away American sovereignty, that would pave the way for the removal of alomst every Senator and Representative we have on account of blatant corruption. They’ll never do it. Heaven help us, because the bastards in D.C. won’t.
inquietude76 (21:51:59) :
Too many words without paragraphs. Why do you think that paragraphs were invented in the first place? Think about it man….think!!
You idiots who think Obama and his marxist co-conspirators have any good intentions at all are simply stupid. The goal of Obama and his marxist co-conspirators is to put the USA in the role of servant and redirect our country’s output to the rest of the world, while limiting our citizens to a minimalist standard of living.
Anthony, you will most likely not post this, but please take a look at least.
Monckton brings up the birth certificate theory during his introduction of the lecture (about 2 minutes into the film)
it is misleading to claim, that he is “debunking” the theory!
[Oh c’mon! Don’t you think this post was a bit over the top? ~ ctm]
Great…another tax form to fill out every year.
Could be good business for Liberty Tax preparers and other CPAs though…The World Income Tax.
How about electing a World President? Can you imagine the debates? 20 languages? 50 parties…
Hey Blondie, apparently you don’t have a clue what this “climate change” issue is really about. “Transfer of wealth from developed countries to developing countries”. Please do even a little research into the background and existing writings of Obama, his marxist czars, advisors and co-conspirators.
Brendan, if you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention, or just don’t give a shit.
Next year, you have parliament elections, right? Just vote the [snip] out guys.
As some British gentleman told, “when the parliament sits together, lives and property of all men are under threat”.
Reply: It is possible to write without using profanity. My treatment of profanity, misspelled profanity, concealed profanity, or other versions may get more harsh depending on my mood. ~ charles the moderator
Isn’t it the Congress – according to the Constitution – that has the last say in lawmaking – not the Senate?
Then again – having the rarely changellenged right to write Executive Orders – the President can do pretty much what he “wants” (read: “what he’s been told to”) – and the rest – both the -Congress and Senate will simply follow – f.ex:
Executive Order 10995 provides for the takeover of the communications
media.
Executive Order 10997 provides for the takeover of all electric, power,
petroleum, gas, fuels, and minerals.
Executive Order 10988 provides for the takeover of food resources and
farms.
Executive Order 10999 provides for the takeover of all modes of transportation, control of highways, seaports, etc.
Executive Order 11000 provides for mobilization of all civilians into
work brigades under the Government supervision.
Executive Order 11001 provides for Governmental takeover of all
health, education and welfare functions.
Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a
national registration of all persons.
Executive Order 11003 provides for the Government to take over
airports and aircraft.
Executive Order 11004 provides for the Housing and Finance Authority
to relocate communities, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish
new locations for populations.
Executive Order 11005 provides for the Government to take over
railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
All of these were combined into Executive Order 11490 and that was
signed by President Carter on July 20,1979.
So, if the President declares a national emergency because of whatever reason, whether it’s for one year, five years, five minutes or forever, it doesn’t make any difference. FEMA then can implement all these Executive orders, take over all local, state, and national government suspend the Constitution and do whatever they want to do.
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian [private?] national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” – Barry Soetoro
PS. Curious George wrote: “Keep in mind Russia’s recent reiteration of their “Preemptive” Nuclear strike doctrine, the current dispute over Arctic resources, etc.”
Worth keeping in mind also – The US-NATO Preemptive Nuclear Doctrine: Trigger a Middle East Nuclear Holocaust to Defend “The Western Way of Life”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8048
Ron de Haan (18:00:26) :
Let’s face the facts.
Here’s a unique if old idea: divide and conquer!
“[Oh c’mon! Don’t you think this post was a bit over the top? ~ ctm]”
I’m disappointed, Charles. Why not let the reader judge my words? I thought WUWT welcomed all views. And why are you trying to protect the secret service?
Reply: Disappointed? Are you kidding me? You post about the possibility of Barack Obama being JKF’s illegitimate love-child and expect a free ride? I don’t care what side of the political fence you find yourself, this has no place here. Readers, I’m not making this up. Brendan H, you will not be allowed to rebut this with continued raving on this topic. ~ charles the moderator.
For what it’s worth, the video of Lord Monckton warning of the impending treaty has gone viral. What the people make of it is what will matter in the end. I intend to watch the responses on several sites today where I know it was posted late yesterday and the first responses, if they are indicative of anything, suggest this alone has had the most reaction by far from normally quiet blog spaces. I suggest any comments regarding the validity of what was stated should be predicated upon the reaction of the public which will occur in short order.
Re Lord Monckton
Some of the adverse comments about Christopher Monckton are simply the usual ad hominen. His association with Baroness Thatcher makes him the spawn of the devil in some eyes. Yes he uses colourful and I might say eloquent language but I can say from personal experience that his knowledge of the science is exceptional, particularly the flaws in the IPCC’s calculations for temperature response to increased CO2.
Some of your US readers may think he exagerrates the threat. I am not qualified to comment on the US constitution but he is absolutely right about the insidious nature of the Copenhagen Treaty and the EU which has become an undemocratic and unelected dictatorship.
It is true that many on the left support the crude AGW alarmist rant, with some notable and noble exceptions. However, in the UK what is worse is the insidious contamination of all aspects of public life including business. Many business leaders, whether or not they accept the AGW nonsense, smell the money and the tax dollars. Earlier this morning, on TV we had a advert from a supposed non-polictical charity, Oxfam telling us that CC costs lives citing floods in Bangladesh. No evidence just lies and assertions.
In the UK we have passed legislation which condemns us to LEGALLY BINDING targets to reduce CO 2 emissions by 80% by 2050. This is based upon the flimsy AGW theory and Sternian cost benefit analysis. Earlier this week we had the absurd Penn Hadow and the even more absurd Wadham from Cambridge telling us on the basis of two sets of shoddy measurements that the Arctic summer ice would be gone in 10 years. All reported without any crictical analysis by the BBC and the rest of the MSM.
However, the glimmer of hope is that in the build up to Copenhagen the fear of failure is making the alarmist claims become more and more hysterical whilst at the same time the evidence of the fraud becomes greater and greater. But this will make the ultimate climb down ever more difficult.
As to Monckton addressing the Conservative party, I think not. Cameron is a lost cause and subscribes to the Goreacle. If the Conservatives are elected, we have to hope that some of the more saner voices in the cabinet can restrain his green nonesense.
Finally, Baroness Thatcher set up Hadley to research climate change not to make up its mind in advance as it now does.
Regards
Paul
Listen up America. In Britain we will almost certainly lose our nation in the next 6 months, as the Lisbon treaty will be forced through – against the wishes of the people ( France and Denmark voted no and were ignored; the Irish voted no once, then were told to vote again and were illegally bullied into a yes; we were promised a referendum by all 3 major parties and we haven’t had one ). We will be a province in the EU state. This is real, and will happen to you unless you fight.
RE: Tom in Texas (20:58:36): Thanks.