This is a 350.org effort to highlight the perceived need to get below 350 ppm of atmospheric CO2.
At left is the list of luminaries that make up the 350.org messengers. With a team like that, especially with Van Jones, Hansen, and Monbiot on board, who could resist?
I may just drive up there to offer him a ride home, unless of course somebody reading WUWT lives closer and can document how they get there and how they get back. Here’s the details on the walk. They say on the blog that:
“Trekkers will begin on Sept. 20 at Sunset Bay State Park, near Coos Bay. They will finish in downtown Portland on Oct. 24.” – Anthony
From Oregon Live: The Stump – Why I am walking 350 miles
by Phil Carver, guest opinion
From Sept. 20 to Oct. 24, I and a small group of other people will walk 350 miles along the Oregon coast and the Columbia River estuary to highlight the dangers of climate change.
For my last 20 years with state government, I was responsible for monitoring climate science. I retired in 2008 and now feel the need to go more public with this dire situation.
The Oregonian and most newspaper have missed one of the biggest stories of the year.
Sharon Begley, Newsweek’s science editor, wrote an article published July 24 titled: “Climate-Change Calculus: Why it’s even worse than we feared.” In the article she quotes International Polar Year’s David Carlson as saying: “The models just aren’t keeping up” with the reality of CO2 emissions. She notes that: “Although policymakers hoped climate models would prove to be alarmist, the opposite is true, particularly in the Arctic.”
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The Oregon 350 Climate Crisis Walk is one of over 1,000 events around the world planned for Oct. 24 by 350.org. The idea is to promote a limit of 350 parts per million of CO2 in the air. The level is currently at 389 and rising 2 ppm per year. The group was founded by James Hansen, a NASA climate scientist, and Bill McKibben, author of “End of Nature” and “Deep Economy.”
Read the complete article and participate in comments at the Orgeon Live website
For an excellent rebuttal of Sharon Begley’s July 24th Newsweek article, see ICECAP here
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“If humanity wishes to preserve a planet similar to that on which civilization developed and to which life on Earth is adapted, paleoclimate evidence and ongoing climate change suggest that CO2 will need to be reduced from its current 385 ppm to at most 350 ppm, but likely less than that.” – James Hansen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/350.org
Ok, that’s a leap.
How about showing us your AUDITABLE, OPEN, and VERIFIABLE scientific evidence for such claims Mr. Hansen. Please provide the full details of your hypothesis with all supporting data and how such data was collected and statistically massaged and manipulated. In addition please provide all source code and access to all programs used in drawing such a conclusion.
Oh, you can’t or won’t do that you say, well how are you any different than a religo-sly-fi soothsayer sir?
I thought that the “paleoclimate evidence” shows that temperature precedes CO2 increases by hundreds of years, how can it be that the likes of James Hansen get it backwards? Their perspective window seems to be so narrow that they only see what they want to see. How about when the CO2 levels were 4,000 ppm and our ancestors did just fine as evidenced by us existing now?
Oh well. What can one do? Promote Rational Discussion and Examination of Auditable and Open and Verifiable Objective Science with all “manipulations” and “assumptions” fully documented. Make that a requirement for ALL publicly funded science! Maybe that’s where we can make a dent. Make it a requirement that all public science be fully open. No more secret data sets with secret “corrections” or secret “statistical adjustments”. If scientists and especially climate scientists want public money then they must provide a fully audited paper and digital trail that others can follow. In fact, their science papers must fully point to all the data and information sources they’ve used and fully describe how they’ve manipulated the data.
No More Secrets in Public Science! Support Open Public Science!
Won’t walking 350 miles generate a lot of unnecessary CO2 ?
astateofdenmark (03:20:12) :
Monbiot recently pledged to cut his emissions by 10% in 2010:
What’s he going to do – shut up?
Cheers
Mark
hmmmm… my crystal ball says below average temps and a little sleet or snow on their journey.
Don’t think Carver will enjoy his walk after the butt kicking he got from Chuck Wiese. Carver’s not a real climatologist, he just plays one in his copious spare time, which is apparently funded by Oregon taxpayers. Indeed, Carver holds a PHd in the “science” of economics, another model ridden domain. Hubris
On the Orgeon Live website, Meteorologist Chuck Weise and also richard2 put him sufficiently in his place.
Phil Carver has not only drunk the climate koolaid, for 20 years he bathed in it. Like so many of the AGW True Believers, he’s now delusional. There isn’t a shred of honesty, integrity, or rationality left in him, along with his 9 climate clown cohorts pictured above.
Dear 350.org .
In case no one has noticed… your entire idea wastes energy, produces CO2 and has the added benefit of being profoundly stupid.
Sincerely…
Since they allow you to join but not to comment. Are we sure this isn’t made up by the staff at the Onion?
“whereas a lesser rather lowly man might suggest that Mr Al Gore join in this venture.”
No, Al Gore should be seated in a carriage – the sort that Chinese dignitaries used to be carried in – hoisted aloft by his faithful servants, and as they pass from village to village, his subjects can come out and shout their praises.
Such a theatre absurdum would epitomise this whole AGW farce more than mere words ever could.
Announcing the new Solaranite Theory of Rapid Anthropomorphic Climate Change (STRACC). Walk to save the universe!
http://pathstoknowledge.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/solaranite-theory-of-rapid-anthropomorphic-climate-change
STRACC makes much more sense than AGW!
[:)]
Would it be bad form to wish them unusually cold, wet weather?
“For my last 20 years with state government, I was responsible for monitoring climate science. I retired in 2008 and now feel the need to go more public with this dire situation.”
mmmmmmm……. at best does this elegant statement admirably demonstrate the power of lucre over conscience
Or does it demonstrate an absence of conscience when lucre has been secured?
Harsh but fair.
I’m starting an organistation. It’s to be called ‘5:15’ because by 2015 only five people will still believe that AGW is or ever was a problem; Al Gore, James Hansen, Gavin Schmidt, George Monbiot and Flanagan.
It’s 1:42pm in the UK at the moment so in exactly 3 hrs and 33 minutes I’m going to leave my office and walk my dog for 5 miles along the Malvern Hills.
That should prove something to somebody.
Anyone care to join me ?
vg (04:10:20) :
How do we reconcile this
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.365.jpg
with this?
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seasonal.extent.1900-2007.jpg
Minimum ice extent?
(04:17:35) :
Re previous it seems the normal summer (up to 1955) minimum is 11 million km2 in seasonal but on anomaly graph its 14 to 3.5 million km2?
Legitimate pre-satellite sea ice data do not exist for the purposes of comparison. Cryosphere Today’s 100-year graph is meaningless, to put it charitably. (The ruler-straight line of autumn values pre-1955 is among the “tells.”)
The fact that the Arctic warmed and melted in the 1930s and 40s is common knowledge (and well-documented).
I’ve bicycled over a lot of the presumed route this crowd will walk, see http://wermenh.com/biketour/coastal_or.html and http://wermenh.com/biketour-1974/leg2.html .
I strongly recommend that when they get to Astoria, they take the train to Portland. 🙂 There are some okay sections, but I wrote
You got do something…..dear friends.
In times of the soviet union, in SA, we used to call them “useful fools”
The world is in need of a revolution based on truthfulness in order to substitute the common “social acceptance” of lie.
Believe it or not, the majority of the human kind qualifies for a truthfulness behaviour, because it is our common behaviour, only THEM, a few, do not qualify.
Hey Anthony, you are being dissed on ABC, Australia, tonight by a Chris Mooney (May have the name wrong). Apparently you are extreme.
REPLY: He must be an excellent journalist, since he’s able to determine this without ever having so much as sent me an email or a telephone call. Telepathic perhaps. – Anthony
There are some people who can kill their own mother and say it was in “self defense”, these are them, those of the liar kind, the ones who are behind all these reiterative lies.
“I and a small group of other people”
teh grammar is deadz0rs
I wonder if these highly dedicated souls did the slightest reconnaissance of the route the intend to use. Much of it is steep narrow twisty two lane highway clutching to very steep terrain. Many places a step off the pavement is about 200′ of gravity induced acceleration. The traffic is a mixture of RVs, buses, logging trucks, semi-trucks, and normal cars, all exceeding the 55mph speed limit. The weather is wet and windy, cold and windy, foggy and windy, and if the sun does come out it will really get windy. The places to take care of personal hygiene are few and wilderness conveniences are often overgrown poison oak, nettles, and my favorite, devils club, any of which will add a new dimension to distance walking..
I can only wish them luck as common sense seems to be lacking.
Methinks that Suzuki will have them all picked up in one of them air-conditioned diesel buses??
Tiles,
“350 ppm. Sounds snappier than 3.5 parts per 10,000 doesn’t it?”
It sure does. But wouldn’t 350,000 parts per 1,000,000,000 sound a lot better?
🙂
I am ceaselessly amazed at the mediocrity of the public intelligence. Despite almost every dire AGW statement/prediction being effectively countered by proper science, actual measurement and application of appropriate uncertainty levels, I am still fighting the fear in my average friends eyes that they are about to witness Earthly calamity in the next few decades. Why? Because someone told them so. Not because they had it proved to them. Not because they did an investigation themselves. Not because they applied the common sense test…but because someone told them so.
I often ask them that if they were told to jump off a cliff, would they do so? “Of course, not!” is the answer. Why? “Because that makes no sense…”
Okay, then.
J2
[snip]
20 years of state government says it all
Guess what? There’s less water in rivers during drought years.
Here’s another Oregonian story that will make you laugh out loud.
There’s so much wrong with this. Snow pack is not in decline for one but the idea that isolating drought years is anything but cherry picking is pure manipulation.
The only meaningful part of this is the admitted contrdiction to global warming.
But even there it ends with the funny statement.
“Climate models embody the theory as we understand it,” Luce says. “Now we’ve got a new set of observations that don’t quite agree with the theory. People can go out and refine the theory.”
Refine the theory? Or make the models fit the observations?
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/09/new_study_shows_oregon.html
“New study shows river runoff decreases in driest years in Oregon, Northwest”
The shame of it. Not only do they have a Faith section that also makes frequent reference to Creationism (George Monbiot take note) but they also have 350 armbands! Armbands! [snip]