As I’ve been s
aying for some time when it comes to the imagined link between AGW and more tornadoes – there is none.
I blame Super Mega Doppler StormTracker 7000 HD.
It seems the lead scientist at NHC agrees that our new weather toys make a difference in seeing what we would not have noticed before.
From NOAA NEWS – Study: Better Observations, Analyses Detecting Short-Lived Tropical Systems
August 11, 2009
A NOAA-led team of scientists has found that the apparent increase in the number of tropical storms and hurricanes since the late 19th and early 20th centuries is likely attributable to improvements in observational tools and analysis techniques that better detect short-lived storms.

Short-lived Tropical Storm Chantal forms 210 miles south of Halifax, Nova Scotia on July 31, 2007.
High resolution (Credit: NOAA)
The new study, reported in the online edition of the American Meteorological Society’s peer-reviewed Journal of Climate, shows that short-lived tropical storms and hurricanes, defined as lasting two days or less, have increased from less than one per year to about five per year from 1878 to 2008.
“The recent jump in the number of short-lived systems is likely a consequence of improvements in observational tools and analysis techniques,” said Chris Landsea, science and operations officer at NOAA’s National Hurricane Center in Miami, and lead author on the study. “The team is not aware of any natural variability or greenhouse warming-induced climate change that would affect the short-lived tropical storms exclusively.”
Several storms in the last two seasons, including 2007’s Andrea, Chantal, Jerry and Melissa and 2008’s Arthur and Nana, would likely not have been considered tropical storms had it not been for technology such as satellite observations from NASA’s Quick Scatterometer (QuikSCAT), the European ASCAT (Advanced SCATterometer) and NOAA’s Advanced Microwave Sounding Unit (AMSU), as well as analysis techniques such as the Florida State University’s Cyclone Phase Space.
“We do not dispute that these recent systems were tropical storms,” said Landsea. “In fact, the National Hurricane Center’s ability to monitor these weaker, short-lived storms provides better warnings to mariners of gale force winds and high seas.”
According to Dr. Brian Soden, a professor at the University of Miami’s Rosentiel School for Marine and Atmospheric Sciences, “The study provides strong evidence that there has been no systematic change in the number of north Atlantic tropical cyclones during the 20th century.”
Co-authors Gabriel Vecchi and Thomas Knutson, both of the NOAA Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, developed a sampling methodology to measure whether meteorologists missed medium- to long-lived tropical storms and hurricanes from the late 1800s through the 1950s. They found that about two of the medium- to long-lived storms per year were unaccounted for in the late 1800s. By the 1950s, forecasters missed less than one per year.
When the researchers discounted the number of short-lived tropical storms and hurricanes and added the estimated number of missed medium- to long-lived storms to the historical hurricane data, they found no significant long-term trend in the total number of storms.
The team also noted that the finding of no increasing trend in hurricane and tropical storm counts in the Atlantic is consistent with several recent global warming simulations from high-resolution global climate model and regional downscaling models.
“This new study is one piece of the puzzle of how climate may influence hurricanes. Although Atlantic storm counts overall have not changed, this study does not address how the strength and number of the strongest hurricanes have changed or may change due to global warming,” noted Knutson.
Lennart Bengtsson of the University of Reading, United Kingdom, was also a research team member and co-author on the journal paper.
NOAA understands and predicts changes in the Earth’s environment, from the depths of the ocean to the surface of the sun, and conserves and manages our coastal and marine resources.
Here is the Lansea et al paper:
ftp://ftp.gfdl.noaa.gov/pub/gav/PAPERS/LVBK_08_SHORTSTORMS.submitted.pdf
(h/t to WUWT reader “timetochooseagain”
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Have a look at this little gem by the BBC:-)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8197191.stm
It’s all about tropical storms & guess what?
AtB
A thought! Isn’t this the guy who claimed in 2000 that the MWP didn’t exist? Now all of a sudden it’s legit!
Frank K. (05:55:02) :
So the climate models are resolving hurricane-sized structures in a time-accurate manner over simulated time periods of multiple decades? Do you have any references as to how this is done, and to the numerical methods involved is keeping the simulation time-accurate over such a long period of time? Thanks!
My source was clearly referenced – the IPCC. I recommend AR4 Ch 9 (Understanding and Attributing Climate Change – page 711) and Chapter 10 on projections (page 786) to find answers to your questions. You may find more information in the cited papers at the bottom of each chapter.
A large number of the issues brought up here (including your query) are quantified and qualified in the IPCC docs. I’m sure the top post authors read them, but I’m not so sure that many of the other commentators do. Which would be a strange way to go about criticising the mainstream view.
Just one question: Just ~how~ does Nova Scotia qualify as being in the tropics?
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The caption under one of the above illustrations reads: “Short-lived Tropical Storm Chantal forms 210 miles south of Halifax, Nova Scotia on July 31, 2007.”
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According to the American Heritage English Dictionary, the term ‘tropic’ resolves to:
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tropic
trop·ic
n.
1.
a. Either of two parallels of latitude on the earth, one 23°27. north of the equator and the other 23°27. south of the equator, representing the points farthest north and south at which the sun can shine directly overhead and constituting the boundaries of the Torrid Zone.
b. Tropics or tropics The region of the earth’s surface lying between these latitudes.
2. Astronomy Either of two corresponding parallels of celestial latitude that are the limits of the apparent northern and southern passages of the sun.
adj.
Of or relating to the Tropics; tropical.
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Now then, the most southern reach of Nova Scotia is situated as such:
43° 50′ N & 66° 5′ W
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Ref.: http://www.bcca.org/misc/qiblih/latlong_ca.html
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So, will someone please inform me as to HOW a —ahem— SUBTROPICAL storm off Nova Scotia is considered ‘tropical?’
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Is that yet another machination which we are just supposed to swallow and say ‘thank you’?
I suggest requesting that the BBC cover this paper, “in order to present a balanced view”. This is something they are ‘required’ to do, so they might take notice.
Sean H,
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I’ve a feeling the only ‘balance’ you’d likely get from the British Government’s very own propaganda machine is either stolid silence, or you’ll be told to mind your own yank business.
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But then, if you’re a Brit? You’ll likely be placed on a ‘watch list’ and harassed endlessly for being an AGW ‘denier.’
Adam Grey (18:03:21) :
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My source was clearly referenced – the IPCC. I recommend AR4 Ch 9 (Understanding and Attributing Climate Change – page 711) and Chapter 10 on projections (page 786) to find answers to your questions.
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????? Please double-check your reference:
My (on-line) copy of the IPCC’s Assessment Report 4, Chapter 9, is on Africa (not Understanding and Attributing ..) and Chapter 10 is on Asia. (Not Projections).
See: http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg2/ar4-wg2-chapter10.pdf
By the way, Chapter 3 very clearly states that small disturbances can’t be modelled nor predicted by the climatemodels, but can – at best – be individually approximated by the regional models. The IPCC is assuming that the climate models predictions of greatly increased warmth means more hurricanes.
But they do not establish or support that claim. They merely make the claim.