Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade Bill: The next step – your chance for input

US-Senate

As you know, the next battle on the Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade bill will be fought in the Senate. Maybe then they’ll read those 300+ pages added at 3:09AM the day before the house vote.

PaulM writes in “Tips and Notes to WUWT”:

At 10 am, JULY 7 there will be a Full SENATE ENVIRONMENTAL and PUBLIC WORKS Committee hearing entitled, “Moving America toward a Clean Energy Economy and Reducing Global Warming Pollution: Legislative Tools.”

Please contact your/the Senators on the Committee with your opinions. This is another important opportunity to contribute to the GW debate that we must take to the AGW’s through our politicians – as they hold our futures in their votes. If you have a Senator on the Committee at least contact him//her as well as the leaders.

Senate Majority Committee Members:

Barbara Boxer (Chairman)

Max Baucus

Thomas R. Carper

Frank R. Lautenberg

Benjamin L. Cardin

Bernard Sanders

Amy Klobuchar

Sheldon Whitehouse

Tom Udall

Jeff Merkley

Kirsten Gillibrand

Arlen Specter

Senate Minority Committee Members:

James M. Inhofe

George V. Voinovich

David Vitter

John Barrasso

Mike Crapo

Christopher S. Bond

Lamar Alexander

I suggest giving them an ear-full, quickly and often, supporting Dr. ALAN CARLIN and his suppressed “Comments on Draft Technical Support Document for Endangerment Analysis for Greenhouse Gas Emissions under the Clean Air Act”

You will also like to contact The Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee members.

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Myron Mesecke
July 2, 2009 2:28 pm

Reply: That post just barely squeezed through. ~ ctm
Feel free to remove it. I may have found it funny but that doesn’t mean it has value. ~ ctm
Reply: And you didn’t get my joke. ~ ctm

David Segesta
July 2, 2009 2:49 pm

After my senator voted for the TARP bill I sent him an e-mail saying that he should be in jail. Since then his responses have been rather brief, like this;
“Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I will certainly keep your views in mind should this issue come before the Senate.”

MJW
July 2, 2009 3:13 pm

Retired Engineer (09:45:49) :

The Senate will pass a watered down version, far more “moderate” to avoid a fillibuster (even with A.F., there may be some dissent). The conference committee with the House will reinstate most of the nonsense that just passed. The Senate will only need 51 votes after that, with no debate allowed.

I don’t think that’s correct. As I understand it, the conference report is debatable and can be filibustered unless it’s a budget reconciliation bill.

July 2, 2009 3:32 pm

Michael Gerson wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post to the effect that we should honor the Republican representatives who voted their convictions.
Nonsense. By voting for it, they proved they’re not fit to serve. I wrote back to Mr. Gerson saying that they should be held accountable (along with the other representatives who voted for it). Really, wouldn’t you fire an employee who signed a contract on your behalf without reading it?

philw1776
July 2, 2009 3:41 pm

I’d like to comment on some R senators. First, New Hampster’s Gregg is NOT facing re-election as he has announced he’s retiring from the Senate. He’s a RINO who often votes with trendy public opinion. He may be persuadeable. However FYI, last year he voted with the D majority for comprehensive immigration reform, a.k.a. amnesty for illegal aliens.
As to Maine’s Snowe and Collins, these RINOS are reliable voters for D measures that the mainstream media portrays as needed, q.v. the oh so effective stimulus bill. As female Senators they’re nearly invulnerable. Neither is a deep thinker and their opinion on energy and AGW is formed by NYT editorials often praising them for their ‘inedpendent’ views, translate as voting with the Democratic majority.

Steve
July 2, 2009 3:50 pm

This was my response from Sen. Barrasso this Feb. He is second only to Inhofe when it comes to this. Lately he has been on the cable news promoting 2nd amendment rights and trying to rally against the climate con.
Dear Steven,
Thank you for contacting me about global climate change. It is good to hear from you.
Like you, I find some of the proposals to address global climate change to be potentially devastating to our nation’s economy. While I believe energy efficiency and conservation are important pieces of any energy policy, coal, natural gas, and oil cannot be eliminated from America’s energy portfolio. Coal, natural gas, and oil must continue to play a central role in meeting America’s energy demands. Be assured that I will fight tirelessly in favor of policies promoting the use of Wyoming’s abundant energy resources.
Steven, thanks again for sharing your thoughts with me. I look forward to hearing from you in the future.
John Barrasso, M.D.
United States Senator

Curiousgeorge
July 2, 2009 4:59 pm

Hu McCulloch (13:20:03) :
Re David Hagen 10:31:21,
EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson is scheduled to testify before the committee on Tuesday 7/7. Let’s hope someone takes the opportunity to ask her about Alan Carlin’s suppressed EPA report!
Barbour might, and maybe Vilsack. The rest are in Obama’s bag.

John Egan
July 2, 2009 5:43 pm

Charles the moderator – –
John Egan = Johnnygunn
Reply: I can’t believe I didn’t see that. D’oh! ~ charles the contrite and embarrassed moderator

July 2, 2009 6:01 pm

I sent letters to almost all Senators the very day after the House shamefully voted yes on this thing. Senator Lieberman wrote back a nice, lengthy letter supporting the bill. They have convinced him that climate change is the “most important environmental challenge of our time”. He also seems frantically concerned with leaving an “environmental legacy”. He referred to an April 17th report by the EPA. I wrote back and asked if he had seen Mr. Carlin’s more recent report that has been squelched… I can’t believe our own Jeff Flake “flaked out” of even voting… Let’s pray that by the time the Senate touches this thing, they’ve all received an earful from fed-up folks like us. Here is the text of what I wrote to each Senator. Feel free to plagiarize if you think it’s worth it:
“We are beside ourselves with what just happened on Friday in the House of Representatives. HR 2454 passed. This is yet another in a series of unprecedented moves by the current Administration and Congress to turn America into something much less than the great nation we have been. We are not Europe. We don’t want to be Europe. Nevermind the fact that similar efforts to the experiments being embarked upon here have FAILED in Europe and other parts of the world! Why would we mimic them? Are there some in Congress who feel so power drunk and so secure in their positions that they would presume to change the whole face of our nation? They ought to clean out their ears and open their eyes. The American people are starting to wake up and may just vote them all out of office…
We hope, Senator, that you are not in favor of this power grab. We pray that you believe in States’ and, more importantly, individual rights and freedoms. Please demonstrate this commitment by voting “no” when this bill comes to the Senate, even if this means “crossing party lines”, as it were.”

Pat
July 2, 2009 6:16 pm

“Mikey (11:17:09) :
This means you’re looking at a possible coming trade war.”
I see a new country forming as direct result of this bill. I call it “Chimerica”. In Chimerica you have producers and financiers (China) and consumers (America). This will continue until one stops lending money to the consuming side of the equasion. War is on the agenda.

Pat
July 2, 2009 7:05 pm

You all have to remember the one and simple fact that all politicians, including assistants, family members etc etc, will benefit enormously from this bill. And the likes of you and I will pay for it. It will pass, as similar bills passed in Europe (And have demonstrated their power in raising revenues) and will in Australia (After Copenhagen).
Crickey! In Australia, we have ex-MP’s clocking up AU$50k in air travel costs in 6 months. They”re not even active MP’s FFS. This is the sort of corruption we’ll see more of.

Duke
July 2, 2009 7:47 pm

My God! Boxer is the committee chair. I live in Southern California, but do you think she would listen to anything I (or any of us) have to say. I… I…
I wrote Harman an email about Waxman-Markey. Guess how she voted?

July 2, 2009 7:55 pm

I just wrote a message to Senator Voinovich (R-Ohio). I’ll be interested to see if I receive a specific reply or a canned message. Jean Schmidt (R-Ohio) did send a sepcific reply (which was most appreciated, even if an aide did it) and she voted against this C&T in the House. Like others, I’m concerned that there will be too many concessions (concealed bribes) and this nation-killer will be enacted. I’m making plans to spend the rest of my life in an upcoming third-world country where I don’t have to worry about cold and electricity rates are affordable. I’ll take a cut in pay, but I’ve live better than I will if this piece of legislation passes.

Mikey
July 2, 2009 8:42 pm

This one’s pretty good.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTc1MmVhMGYxY2UzNzAwMTJlODBjZjg2NDJjNmM2MWE=&w=MA==
It’s for people like me who don’t want to read the whole Waxman-Markey bill, but want an idea of all the little gifts and tricks contained inside.
It lists the top 50.

Carl Yee
July 2, 2009 9:40 pm

Pamela G. is right. Malarkey (Merkley) is a total sap. He was when he was in the State legislature and he is now. I have received more [snip] replies from him, be it on gun legislation or GW stuff, than I can count. They are all of the same slick grease that [snip] replies are known for.
Also, our Governor has drunk so much of the warmist koolaid that OR is a lost cause from ever opting out from this coming ruination of American industry and economy.

Steve
July 2, 2009 10:37 pm

Here is the reply I received from one of my Senators, who basically admits there will be job losses:
Thank you for writing to me to express your opposition to establishing a cap-and-trade system to curb greenhouse gas emissions. I appreciate the time you took to write, and I welcome the opportunity to respond.
I understand that you are concerned that a cap-and-trade system could result in the loss of American jobs and increase energy costs. I believe, however, that the cost of failing to act to address climate change far exceeds the cost of taking the necessary steps to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and make a permanent shift towards clean, renewable energy and energy efficient technologies. A recent study by researchers at Tufts University found that inaction could cost the United States economy as much as 3.6 percent of the gross domestic product, or $3.8 trillion annually, by 2100.
Please know that I appreciate hearing your concerns, and I will keep your thoughts in mind as I continue working in the Senate to advance measures that address climate change, invest in our economy and increase our energy security.
Again, thank you for writing. If you have further questions or comments, please contact my office in Washington, D.C. at (202) 224-3841. Best regards.
Sincerely yours,
Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

July 2, 2009 10:59 pm

Myron Mesecke (14:28:14) :
Reply: That post just barely squeezed through. ~ ctm
Feel free to remove it. I may have found it funny but that doesn’t mean it has value. ~ ctm
Reply: And you didn’t get my joke. ~ ctm
Good stuff gents.
Hopefully this Cap and Trade CACA motion will not pass in the Senate…

Mikey
July 3, 2009 12:55 am

Steve (22:37:58) :
“A recent study by researchers at Tufts University found that inaction could cost the United States economy as much as 3.6 percent of the gross domestic product, or $3.8 trillion annually, by 2100.”
More importantly another recent study from Justfundus University found 8 out of 10 Americans will believe any idiotic assertion containing the word “study”.

juandos
July 3, 2009 5:27 am

All great comments and good ideas here but only a few touched on what will really grab the attention of the masses and the politicos and that’s MONEY!…
Consider the costs in the following courtesy of Steven Milloy’s ‘Green Hell blog: Waxman-Markey lays groundwork for electric vehicle mandate
There is some serious jack involved in transitioning to these ‘wind up electric toy cars‘…
We of course can’t expect the MSM to honestly and factually inform us of the real situation as Frank Strategies blog shows us: Video: Economic Reporting – Then and Now
One of the seriously great thing about this particular blog Anthony Watts has put together here is that not only are the posts just a bit beyond excellent but the comments are also very much a learning experience too…
Thanks all…

James Robertson
July 3, 2009 8:16 am

Please do not punish me and my family with additional taxes. Please do not suppress science that is contrary to your agenda. The free market is already ramping up its wind resources. Please let the market work!

democrapper
July 3, 2009 9:03 am

[snip too crude for posting here – please don’t post this sort of thing again – Anthony]

democrapper
July 3, 2009 11:19 am

No more crude than this posted above “Hopefully this Cap and Trade CACA motion will not pass in the” I had the courtesy to ** the only offensive word in the whole post. Get a grip.

REPLY:
Your HANDLE is offensive, get a grip yourself. – Anthony

democrapper
July 3, 2009 11:39 am

did you read these? “Why do I feel like I’m pissin’ into the wind in my efforts to stop this monstrosity?”
The handle is no more offensive than other poster’s content Anthony

democrapper
July 3, 2009 12:21 pm

I think you have lost it dude. I didn’t apply anything to Helen Thomas – she never came up. I respect her immensely and wouldn’t want to tangle with her. You on the other hand are playing censor and that annoys me.
REPLY: You are correct, I confused you with another silly handle “n.o.brain” who did attack Helen Thomas. I removed my reply to you. I wish I didn’t have to snip any of these sorts of comments. But I do to maintain decorum. Am I perfect, no. Do some get missed from time to time, yes. I call ’em when I see ’em.
Best just to behave and not post words that are best left to street talk. And you might wish to consider changing your handle. It immediately sets you up to be viewed with little or no respect. Be annoyed if you wish, I’ve got other things to worry about. – Anthony