OK folks, time to engage in our rights of citizenship. You know what to do. Phones and email contact info at the bottom. – Anthony
UPDATE2: test vote passes narrowly, 7 votes needed to defeat this bill – Anthony
UPDATE: C-SPAN1 is covering this live, there is a live media streaming page which you can access here:
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx
CSPAN also has live phone in. Phone in your comments: (202)585-3885 , -3886, -3887
From GreenHell blog the Waxman-Markey pre-vote count…
Waxman-markey pre-liminary head-count as of Thursday afternoon (courtesy Myron Ebell):
218 needed to win…
Yes
Yes = 175
Leaning Yes = 35
TOTAL = 210
Undecided = 20
No
No = 190
Leaning No = 14
TOTAL = 204
Undecided or Won’t Say:
Kirkpatrick Az
Boyd Fla
Brown Fla
Bishop Ga
R Kirk Ill
Foster Ill
Donnelly Ind
R Jones NC
McIntyre NC
R Frelinghuysen NJ
Tonko NY
Arcuri NY
Space Ohio (he voted for it in committee)
Carney Penna.
Davis Tenn
Al Green Tex
Jackson Lee Tex
Ortiz Tex
Eddie Bernice Johnson Tex
Kind Wisc
Leaning Yes:
Mitchell Az
Cardoza Calif
Costa Calif
Baca Calif
R Castle Del
Grayson Fla
Meek Fla
Kozmas Fla
Abercrombie Hi
Bean Ill
R Cao La
Kratovil Md
R Ehlers Mich
Kildee Mich
Schauer Mich
Peters Mich
Clay Mo
Skelton Mo
Thompson Miss
Shuler NC
Adler NJ
Lance NJ
Meeks NY
McMahon NY
Murphy NY
R McHugh NY
Maffei NY
Driehaus Ohio
Fudge Ohio
Kilroy Ohio
Cooper Tenn
Edwards Tex
Rodriguez Tex
Nye Va
Kagan Wisc
Leaning No:
Salazar Colo
Marshall Ga
Boswell Iowa
Minnick Idaho
Halvorson Ill
Etheridge NC
Kissell NC
Massa NY
Kaptur Ohio
Boccieri Ohio
R Gerlach Penna
Hinojosa Tex
Mollohan WV
Rahall WV
U.S. readers can use this link…
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
…to contact their representative and senators regarding the Waxman-Markey bill.
The link makes it very easy to send an email or make a phone call.
Use the US Representatives link after clicking on the link above since this vote will occur in the House of Representatives.
A one or two sentence email, or a one minute call is all that is necessary. Just mention that you’re a constituent of the Representative or Senator, that it’s a bad bill, and ask him/her to please vote against it.
Elected folks keep score. They have their staffs keep a tally of pro and con calls, letters and emails. If they hear from enough people, it can make a difference.
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April, KEEP CALLING. Same thing happened to me and I got through on the third try.
Cap and Trade Being Pulled? [Steve Hayward]
Word flying around D.C. as of 1:30 is that Waxman-Markey is being pulled, suggesting Pelosi doesn’t have the votes. It may be they need a little more time to buy off one or two more people, or possibly they simply can’t get enough committed votes (I am sure more than a few Democrats say they will vote “Yes” as necessary, but have a deal for cover with a “No” vote, which is complicating the whip count).
Ray (10:45:12) :
DO they really want a full fledged revolution….
After CO2 now they will be looking at phasing out alcohol globally.
That article is pretty scary, Ray.
Ever seen the movie “Demolition Man” where everything harmful is illegal, even salt? We’ll be listening to “Oscar Meyer Weiner” commercials on the radio before we know it.
Irate Patriot (10:49:18) :
Is there a web site that keeps voting records on who voted what on each bill that is ran through Congress? If so, can someone post the web address to it?
Votesmart.org
Pamela,
I sympathize with your situation. I’m a registered Democrat, who has been voting “conservative” (and thus Republican) for years now. I’ve toyed with the idea of changing my registration to Republican, but never have because my congresscritters are all Democrat, and I like to imagine they pay more attention to me when they realize they are getting an irate email or phone call from a Democrat. In my congressional district, especially, I think my representative thinks he can pretty much ignore Republicans with impunity. But when he hears me tell him that I will do everything I can to get him unseated if he votes for this bill, if he hears enough other Democrats urging him to vote against this (or any) bill, maybe it will have an impact.
If I lived in a state which had a stronger Republican party, then I might well switch.
Basil
I feel so sorry for Waxman that if I was american I would vote for his bill. How can any poor soul be that ugly.
Waxman’s bill hr2454 has one cosponsor. Ron Paul’s “Audit the Fed Act” has 244 cosponsors, well more than half of the House. Paul’s bill has been stuck in committee for months while Waxman’s bill is getting pushed through with great speed. Paul’s bill has many cosponsors because people have been calling their reps and urging them to cosponsor it. Apparently not many have called their reps to urge support for HR 2454, and yet Waxman’s bill is getting all the attention.
Need I say it again? Our government is run by criminals.
Listening (and recording) those buffoons on C-SPAN has caused me to go to the refrigerator for a beer.
DanD: Thanks. I did finally get through to Washington state’s Norm Dicks and Dave Reichert. Dave Reichert is a Republican that was leaning yes, now is watching to see which way the wind is blowing.
Re David Hagen 10:42:46, Waxman was among the non-voters on the strawvote (because he recused himself as a sponsor??), so they have the 218 required for passage. The only hope now is to sway some of the 217 back.
Visit or phone your rep’s local office today!
I called my congressman (Griffith, north AL) and was told that he plans to oppose it. Then, I saw that the entire Alabama delegation voted no on the test vote. We may be dumb-ass rednecks, but we’re at least getting this one right.
Well Dilson (11:43:01) :
I called my congressman (Griffith, north AL) and was told that he plans to oppose it. Then, I saw that the entire Alabama delegation voted no on the test vote. We may be dumb-ass rednecks, but we’re at least getting this one right.
Lol. My vote for quote of the week. 🙂
I did my duty…now do yours. If we don’t let them know you’re viewpoint, you’ll get the government you deserve…(probably regardless, but you have to at least TRY!!!)
Ed
This is incredible:
1200+ page bill that few have read.
300+ pages of amendments added overnight.
And the only Reps in attendance are the speakers – check out all the empty seats.
The CBO lies about the costs too. (Can they count paying lower taxes as a benefit because the taxpayer is now in a lower tax bracket? Well, they do.)
http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2009/06/24/enron-accounting-cbo-epa-cooked-the-books-on-cost-estimates-for-waxman-markey-energy-tax/
Rep. Herger from Chico now speaking. “Just say no.”
I mentioned this debacle at work today. Two colleagues knew nothing about the demonisation of CO2. One knew but was open minded. Another came along, a young arrogant fooless, who told me that CO2 caused the hole in the ozone and acted like I was the biggest moron son of a crap who ever existed for disagreeing.
It’s not just politicians who are idiotic, corrupt and deceitful. We’re dealing with a much larger problem. Humans are generally morons despite the amount of information available to them. How many people come up to you and talk about organic or natural food being better without realising that, genetically and chemically speaking, a GM food crop is made from natural elements and grow organically? How many times have you heard steroids or sports enhancement drugs being demonised when most steroids are safer to use in moderation than drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes and are used to cure the weak? How many times have you seen homeopathy being promoted as effective medicine when it is as effective as drinking a drop of water and offers only false hope? How many times have you heard someone mention that materialism is bad and spirituality good when the only thing that matters to the poor (and in turn, all of us) is material rewards which offer real health and progress?
There’s a whole anti-science movement out there who fear what they don’t unerstand yet given the chance to live like a caveman without make up, clothes, shops, chlorinated water or cars they balk and hypocritically refuse to give up their modern comforts.
Well Dilson (11:43:01) :
I’m not American but I’ve worked with quite a lot of you ‘dumb-ass rednecks’ and you’re mostly all OK by my reckoning!
The NYT has picked up the carbon gate scandal story:
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2009/06/26/26greenwire-two-epa-staffers-question-science-behind-clima-89720.html
I love to see this action. Way to go!
I called all the Texas Democrats and emailed all those voting yes, leaning yes or undecided.
Keep the pressure on.
Let it pass. When the people see what affect these yahoos have had on the economy and everybody’s pocketbook, it’ll be no contest in 2 years or 4 years.
see australia and new zeeland
If your in now and really sick of hearing about Michael Jackson, Debate of the bill is on the air at cspan house channel.
Im scared folks… this is looking like it is going to pass.
Twiiter feed at Gore Lied is saying Dems are frazzled. Calls in Mike Doyle, D-Pittsburgh, office running 9-1 against. He’s a yes though.
You can also watch the debate in the House live on Cspan 1.
You can also “vote” through the TV ratings, so get someone to tune into this channel if you can. It is another way to register that this is an issue of high importance. If it does slide by the House the Senate will make note of a spike in viewership of the House debate.
It will also be noted by the Major News organizations (although they might not report it)!
Larry
Irate Patriot
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