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Source inside EPA confirms claims of science being ignored, suppressed, by top EPA management
by Richard Morrison, Competitive Enterprise Institute
Washington, D.C., June 26, 2009—The Competitive Enterprise Institute is today making public an internal study on climate science which was suppressed by the Environmental Protection Agency. Internal EPA email messages, released by CEI earlier in the week, indicate that the report was kept under wraps and its author silenced because of pressure to support the Administration’s agenda of regulating carbon dioxide.
The report finds that EPA, by adopting the United Nations’ 2007 “Fourth Assessment” report, is relying on outdated research and is ignoring major new developments. Those developments include a continued decline in global temperatures, a new consensus that future hurricanes will not be more frequent or intense, and new findings that water vapor will moderate, rather than exacerbate, temperature.
New data also indicate that ocean cycles are probably the most important single factor in explaining temperature fluctuations, though solar cycles may play a role as well, and that reliable satellite data undercut the likelihood of endangerment from greenhouse gases. All of this demonstrates EPA should independently analyze the science, rather than just adopt the conclusions of outside organizations.
The released report is a draft version, prepared under EPA’s unusually short internal review schedule, and thus may contain inaccuracies which were corrected in the final report.
“While we hoped that EPA would release the final report, we’re tired of waiting for this agency to become transparent, even though its Administrator has been talking transparency since she took office. So we are releasing a draft version of the report ourselves, today,” said CEI General Counsel Sam Kazman.
Read the censored report here:
http://cei.org/cei_files/fm/active/0/DOC062509-004.pdf
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Come to think of it, what was actually the results of the investigation that Copeland and Watts presented herein and that’s referenced to in the CEI work? Shouldn’t there be an update, due to some faulty mathematics? I could be mixing up this with some other related post though, but I clearly remember that there was a big discussion around that time at WUWT. And it was related to the suns effect.
Anthony,
Was your earlier reply to rbateman (22:14:51) : tongue-in-cheek? These were all clinical thermometers with one actually being identified as “rectal.”
Nomination for quote of the week:
theduke (23:20:32) :
The story here is that the EPA is attempting to shove bad science from the shadowy depths of unaccountable ad hoc United Nations organizations down the throats of the American people; and that the EPA, an agency of the government of the United States, is complicit in this demonstrably unscientific force-feeding.
kurt (02:54:35) : – I’m Linking the article I think you are referring to:
http://www.examiner.com/x-9111-SF-Environmental-Policy-Examiner~y2009m6d26-The-politics-if-not-the-science-is-settled-at-the-EPA-Alan-Carlin-global-warming-and-trouble
“The fact that the EPA seems baffled about such things, caught flatfooted, speaks to a sort of monumental, colossal, nay, magnificent ignorance and incompetence.
…But, holy canole, the EPA — supposedly — ARE the experts! And they reveal themselves to be . . . boobs! Flatheads! Not unlike an English professor who has never heard of Shakespeare.”-Evan Jones
Mannnn, I wish I had said that.
dho gaza:
[snip]
surReal Klimate:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=226
There are more (for the strong stomached and interested – I gave up after a couple)
Piece of work.
It looks to me that the contents of this censored report have all been taken from the pages of WUWT !
I think Watt and all the contributors here are having an effect on policy.
I always wondered what effect flash photography has on the climate…
Henry Galt (04:57:37) :
Dhogaza at Antievolution.org on June 29 2006 wrote
“Now interesingly, my background’s not that different in some ways. I wrote a Basic compiler for the PDP-8 while in high school which was marketed worldwide. The summer ‘tween high school and university was spent writing a multiprocessing kernel for the same machine, making more money than my father while doing so. And before graduating from university I co-wrote the compiler technology upon which my compiler technology company was founded (alas, the industry evolved, and we became extinct after fourteen years in business).”
Oh No! could there be two of them?
It is apparent that the author was just trying to tell the EPA to slow down and note there is lots of science that questions the track the IPCC and the climate models are taking. In essence, he was presenting the sceptics case.
Regulating CO2 is a very, very big step and ALL of the science should be clear and proven before taking such a step.
It is clearly a Bold stance for an EPA employee to take. To take on the IPCC with an internal but thorough and scientifically backed-up formal paper.
But what it also says is that any dissent, even based on the same science that Hansen developed, is going to be suppressed.
The more these papers get out and the more that temperatures do not keep up with the predictions, the suppression will pass. This paper is likely a moderate step in that direction.
And congratulations to Mr. Carlin and the NCEE and to everyone who contributed in some manner to this paper – and there are many of them reading/moderating this post.
Henry Galt (04:57:37) :
dho gaza:
[snip]
My interaction with Dhogaza on Joe Romm’s site led me to believe English might not be his native language.
Yes, dhogaza is a bit unhinged, but then aren’t all bird people? Why his personality is important or worthy of discussion here is beyond me.
Oh, and this is almost certainly the quote of the week:
“The bottom line is whether or not the IPCC is wrong or right about the significance of increasing levels of CO2 and other greenhouse gases in increasing global temperatures–it is amazing how few people have asked that question. What’s happening in Australia (where a Senator Fielding is holding a ‘mini-debate’ with skeptical scientists and administration advocates of an Australian cap and trade policy) is fantastic–why can’t we do that here? Models, good or bad, don’t prove or disprove a scientific hypothesis about the real world. I’m dreadfully concerned that we may be taking an ineffective and extremely costly action, and after six years of working on climate change I might be able to help–but I’m not allowed to.”
-Alan Carlin
I like the astrology angle
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/06/bubkes/#more-691
I hope Leif takes a look at this report.
TSI affects climate – proved – I would suggest not!
Solar magnetic fields a possible contender!!!!!
Solar wind affects temperatures!!!!!
Greenland not melting?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090612092741.htm
Also why are plots of data taken from Blog sites-Surely to be taken seriously data should be obtained from the source?
Let the smears begin I will share a few smear approaches used by radicals.
1 His education will be insulted. Of course it was enough to get hired there so that won’t work. His degree in Physics? so is Joe romms
2 He is in the tank with Big OIL Big oil can’t give EPA hands money. called bribes
3 He is a denier so are the Muslims. We all deny something
4 This is all the fault of a 3rd party (check the incriminating internal e-mails)
Joe Romm is working up his geothermal venting as we speak and can’t erupt because today is the big vote day.
We have an old saying in the oil patch, “If the Yankees don’t like the price of oil, they can freeze in the dark for all we care.”
Cap & Trade is idiotic enough; but an Endangerment finding would enable the EPA bureaucrats to regulate CO2 as they saw fit. The EPA would not have to consider economic effects; nor would they even have to consider whether or not the regulations would “repair the climate.”
People were wailing about the price of oil last summer…Well, if the EPA gets its way and if Cap & Trade is signed into law…They ain’t seen nothing yet.
I just wish I could be around in 20 or 30 thousand years when the glaciers return and bull-doze the Blue States into the ground…;)
Kudos to Mr. Carlin and “Anonymous” at the EPA, Mr. Kazman at the CEI and Anthony & the WUWT staff for shining the light of day on the EPA’s duplicitousness!
bill (06:46:27) :
Also why are plots of data taken from Blog sites-Surely to be taken seriously data should be obtained from the source?
Maybe you shouldn’t assume that a draft report is the same thing as the finished article.
Carbongate.org
Well, the name Carbongate is already taken by the “other side”, hope they will consider it just a free advertisement…
From the same(linked from epa website:
http://yosemite.epa.gov/ee/epa/eed.nsf/ae920736ab481760852575a6006ab364/6aa339f9e726d3ef852575a7005e47bf!OpenDocument
http://yosemite.epa.gov/ee/epa/eermfile.nsf/vwAN/EE-0514-01.pdf/$File/EE-0514-01.pdf
http://www.pennumbra.com/issues/pdfs/155-6/Carlin.pdf
“Why his personality is important or worthy of discussion here is beyond me.”
DHO gaza’s personality is important because his behavior on several sites shows that he is nothing but a troll who is uninterested in any substantive, honest conversation. Trolls add nothing and seek only to drag a thread down to their gutter level, at which point they can proclaim the blog is worthless and no one should give any credence to what they say. It’s a nasty trick aimed at destroying the host blog.
Henry Galt (04:57:37) :
dho gaza:
Mist nets are used by ornithologists to capture wild birds for banding or other research projects.
http://www.owlpages.com/contributors.php?conid=80
Michael D Smith (04:26:56) :
I thank you for the nomination and I humbly accept. I’d like to thank my mother, my father, my God and all those who made this possible.
Seriously, I think the honor should go to Mr. Carlin, whose eloquence, perseverance and courage have gotten this ball rolling.
Cool take on the classic Apple/1984 ad (which actually appeared in 1984 with the introduction of the first Macintosh).
Idle question: Did the CEI get permission from Apple?
/Mr Lynn
WSJ
As the U.S. House of Representatives prepares to pass a climate-change bill, the Australian Parliament is preparing to kill its own country’s carbon-emissions scheme. Why? A growing number of Australian politicians, scientists and citizens once again doubt the science of human-caused global warming.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124597505076157449.html
Good for the Australians.