What would NSIDC and our media make of a photo like this if released by the NAVY today? Would we see headlines like “NORTH POLE NOW OPEN WATER”? Or maybe “Global warming melts North Pole”? Perhaps we would. sensationalism is all the rage these days. If it melts it makes headlines.

Some additional captures from the newsreel below show that the ice was pretty thin then, thin enough to assign deckhands to chip it off after surfacing.The newsreel is interesting, here is the transcript.
1958 Newsreel: USS Skate, Nuclear Sub, Is First to Surface at North Pole
ED HERLIHY, reporting:
USS Skate heads north on another epic cruise into the strange underseas realm first opened up by our nuclear submarines. Last year, the Skate and her sister-sub Nautilus both cruised under the Arctic ice to the Pole. Then, conditions were most favorable. The Skate’s job is to see if it can be done when the Arctic winter is at its worst, with high winds pushing the floes into motion and the ice as thick as twenty-five feet.
Ten times she is able to surface. Once, at the North Pole, where crewmen performed a mission of sentiment, scattering the ashes of polar explorer Sir Hubert Wilkins. In 1931, he was the first to attempt a submarine cruise to the Pole. Now, the Skate’s twelve-day three thousand mile voyage under the ice, shown in Defense Department films, demonstrates that missile-carrying nuclear subs could lurk under the Polar Ice Cap, safe from attack, to emerge at will, and fire off H-bomb missiles to any target on Earth.
A powerful, retaliatory weapon for America’s defense.

For example, one crew member aboard the USS Skate which surfaced at the North Pole in 1959 and numerous other locations during Arctic cruises in 1958 and 1959 said:
“the Skate found open water both in the summer and following winter. We surfaced near the North Pole in the winter through thin ice less than 2 feet thick. The ice moves from Alaska to Iceland and the wind and tides causes open water as the ice breaks up. The Ice at the polar ice cap is an average of 6-8 feet thick, but with the wind and tides the ice will crack and open into large polynyas (areas of open water), these areas will refreeze over with thin ice. We had sonar equipment that would find these open or thin areas to come up through, thus limiting any damage to the submarine. The ice would also close in and cover these areas crushing together making large ice ridges both above and below the water. We came up through a very large opening in 1958 that was 1/2 mile long and 200 yards wide. The wind came up and closed the opening within 2 hours. On both trips we were able to find open water. We were not able to surface through ice thicker than 3 feet.”
– Hester, James E., Personal email communication, December 2000
Here are some screencaps from the newsreel:


It was that way again in 1962:

And of course then there’s this famous photo:
But contrast that to 1999, just 12 years later, lots of ice:

But in 1993, it’s back to thin ice again:

The point illustrated here: the North Pole is not static, ice varies significantly. The Arctic is not static either. Variance is the norm.
There’s quite an interesting read at John Daly’s website, including a description of “the Gore Box”. Everybody should have one of those.
h/t to WUWT commenters Stephen Skinner, Crosspatch, and Glenn.
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Bob (12:14:44) :”BTW, the sun in the pictures in the above articles looks to be about 30 degrees above the horizon. The sun (is) a maximum of 23 degrees above the horizon at the geographic pole on or about June 20. Perhaps the pictures were taken at lower latitudes in the Arctic and the authors of the articles just forgot to mention that.”
Well, I think we can make a better estimate. The conning tower looks to me to be between 25 and 30 feet tall, and I’d guess it’s about 100 yards away from the camera. The sine of the tower’s subtended angle is about .08, so the top of the tower is 4.8°. The sun’s azimuth angle is roughly two and a half times that, or roughly 12° above the horizon. Maybe 15°, max; nowhere near 30°.
The implications are clear. Submarines have caused global warming.
[snip – no references to WWI Germany please]
Robert Bateman (22:49:18) :
Leon Brozyna (22:28:27) :
Oh dear me. How ever will Al Gore handle this?
I know! He’ll say the skeptics [DENIERS! – GP] made it all up. These were photoshopped or even shot in a Hollywood Special Effects studio. That’s how he’ll do it.
Jorge, I can see that the fins on the sail are vertical, presumably to reduce the chance of damage on surfacing, but otherwise I am stumped.
suziam48: It is called freedom of the press, that’s watts up. If you don’t like it just read the New York Times
A. Longiv (13:12:03),
I don’t know if you’re aware of it, but Al Gore tends to exaggerate.
According to Al, he and Tipper were the genesis for “Love Story,” and Al was key to the invention of the internet.
Really. You could look it up. So take Al’s “new studies” with a big grain of salt.
And Claude Harvey, I think it’s been proven beyond any doubt that there is a clear correlation between the number of pirates and global warming: click
bob(12:14:44) the sun subtends and angle of 1/2 deg. from the picture that would put the sun at no more than two degrees above the horizon.
Cancel my last. I see Jorge answered the question while I was walking the dog.
Well done on intentionally misleading your audience – you’ll fit right in beside the MSM!
The article itself shows why this is utterly misleading. Holes in the ice are perfectly natural and in this case the sub used sonar to find them. You will also note that the hole they found closed up again within two hours.
This is VERY different from the ice free pole that is being predicted.
But good try none the less.
[Reply: Always identify who you are responding to.
~ dbstealey, mod.]
The nearest land is usually said to be Kaffeklubben Island, off the northern coast of Greenland about 700 km (440 mi) away, though some perhaps non-permanent gravel banks lie slightly further north.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Pole
1999 photo would suggest land is no more than 10-15 miles away.
Bethany (12:38:08) : said,
I would say lets all purchase those t-shirts and bumper stickers that say
C02 is plant food not pollution. All the warmers get their t-shirt and bumper stickers, well why can’t we.
Try this,
Cars make CO2 trees absorb CO2, drive your car feed a tree and help save the planet.
“suziam48 (13:11:17) :
I am alarmed…”
Somehow that does not surprise me. Al gore and the media are counting on that. You have been conditioned to be alarmed at the slightest provocation. Try to calm down and remember that we still live in a free country. I know it’s hard to believe that there might be some people who disagree with you. Try to remember a long time ago when you heard the expression, “I may not agree with what you are saying, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” Do you rememner that saying? Maybe you can google it…
Just come in on this. Surely those nukes have just floated up through the tundra that underlies the North Pole? Odd that there’s no sign of it making a dash for space…
Smokey (12:59:55) :
So Gavin has a Napoleon complex. Who knew? But that explains his little-man response to posters who disagree with him; he just censors them — because he finally has the power!
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…. and he’s got the “delusions” part down pretty well too.
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/bro/lowres/bron1193l.jpg
vukcevic (13:36:50),
You don’t think those could be ice ridges?
Mike Bryant (13:42:14) : “Try to remember a long time ago when you heard the expression, ‘I may not agree with what you are saying, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.'”
Actually, Mike, if you’ve been keeping up with current events, it goes: “I may not agree with what you are saying, but I will defend to the death the right of the media not to print a single, solitary word of it.”
…I wonder if Congressman Waxman has seen these images ?
A. Longiv (13:12:03), “And Claude Harvey, I think it’s been proven beyond any doubt that there is a clear correlation between the number of pirates and global warming:”
A.L.: you need to update your data. Just as the decline of pirates led to the late 20th Century warming, the recent increase in pirates off the coast of Somalia has contributed to the 21st Century cooling.
The Spaghetti Monster lives!
Hey moderator, where is my last post? It displayed right below Smokey (12:59:55) : Why did you pull it?
Are your values so fragile that thy cannot withstand scrutiny? Apparently so.
suziam48 (13:11:17) :
I am alarmed that WordPress.com seems to be associated with folks who denounce the concept of global warming. I cannot find any way to contact WordPress. I see that two anti-global warming blogs are prominently featured on the WordPress home page. What’s up with this?
suziam48 (13:11:17) :
Do you have any problems with that?
I am alarmed that people like suziam48 are apparently interested in stifling the views of those she/he disagrees with.
Perhaps she/he will now be organizing marches in the street against WordPress, along with boycotts and other actions against someone she/he disagrees with.
You know what’s amazing? These people think they “stopped the war” in Vietnam by their marches and protests. Yep. Now they’re going to march and protest to “stop global warming”, and I promise you it will be just as effective.
Smokey (13:56:24) :
vukcevic (13:36:50),
You don’t think those could be ice ridges?
Rest of the ice looks very flat (as it should), I would expect to see ice ridges in fast moving currents.
A little south of the Arctic in the lower 48, there is this: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=59427&wuSelect=WEATHER
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Winter Storm Warning in effect until 6 am MDT Thursday…
Tonight
Snow showers. Areas of blowing snow. Snow accumulation 4 to 5 inches. Lows around 25. North winds 5 to 15 mph… increasing to 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35 mph after midnight. Chance of snow 90 percent.
Tuesday
Snow. Areas of blowing snow. Windy. Snow accumulation 6 to 9 inches. Highs around 30. North winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts to 40 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.
Tuesday Night
Snow. Areas of blowing snow. Windy. Snow accumulation 6 to 9 inches. Lows around 25. North winds 10 to 20 mph…increasing to 20 to 30 mph after midnight. Gusts up to 45 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.
Wednesday
Windy…snow. Accumulations possible. Highs 30 to 35. North winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts to 50 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.
Wednesday Night
Snow likely. Accumulations possible. Lows 20 to 25. North winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.
Thursday
Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of snow showers. Highs around 35.
Thursday Night
Partly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow showers. Lows 15 to 20.
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Perhaps suziam48 would like to explain to these Montana folks why they can’t plant their crops with all that global warming.
Smokey,
In a thread about Arctic Sea Ice, wouldn’t it be more apropos to use Arctic Sea Ice trends?
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.anom.jpg