NSIDC's Dr. Walt Meier on Catlin and Ice Survey Techniques

Walt sent me this essay unsolicited, and I think it is very useful for establishing some baseline techniques. There’s more useful information on techniques here than in the entire Catlin Arctic Survey website. UPDATE, a response has been posted at the end of the article. – Anthony

Dr. Walt Meier

Dr. Walt Meier

There have been several recent posts on sea ice thickness, particularly in regards to the Catlin expedition. I don’t have any direct connection to Catlin and in my research focus, I don’t anticipate using the Catlin data. I’m not responding to defend them or their methods. Thus, I can’t address details of their operation. However, from reading the posts and comments it seems like some basics on how sea ice thickness is estimated might be of interest.

Sea ice floats in the ocean. Because sea ice is a lower density than unfrozen water, it floats and a portion (~10-15% depending on density) rises above the water line, while most of the ice (~85-90%) is below the surface. The part of the ice cover above the water line is called the “freeboard”; the portion below is called the “draft”. The sum of the freeboard and the draft is the total ice thickness. There may or may not be snow on top of the ice which can add to the “snow+ice freeboard” and the “snow+ice thickness”.

A variety of techniques have been developed to obtain information about sea ice thickness. Most of these methods don’t actually directly measure thickness but estimate thickness from a related measurement. Here are some examples:

Upward Looking Sonar: Mounted on a submarine or on the ocean floor, these instruments measure the return of sound waves bouncing off the bottom of the sea ice. They measure the sea ice draft from underneath the ice. From this draft measurement, the thickness can be derived with knowledge of the ice and water density and the snow cover.

Altimeter: Compared to sonar, altimeter measure the opposite side of the ice. They measure the freeboard from above the ice, from which the total thickness is derived. The NASA ICESat is a laser altimeter, which actually measures the snow+ice freeboard, so knowing something about the snow cover is particularly important (http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/324868main_kwokfig2_full.jpg). Radar altimeters are also often used (including the European Cryosat-2 scheduled to be launched later this year); these penetrate through the snow and thus measure the ice freeboard. ICESat can take a lot of measurements over a large region of the Arctic, but there are limitations, which are discussed below. Altimeters can also be flown on airborne platforms.

Ground radar: This carried on or near the surface and sends out a radar pulse that echoes off the ice-water boundary. Thus it is an estimate of the total ice+snow thickness.

Drill holes: This is the simplest way to obtain ice thickness and it is the only direct measurement of ice thickness – drill a hole and stick measuring tape through it and you have the thickness (whether it is in units of meters, feet, or smoots [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot]). A variant of drill holes are the ice mass balance buoys that Steven Goddard wrote about – drill a hole and put in instrumentation to estimate thickness automatically over time.

There are errors associated with any estimate, but the errors tend to be higher the farther one is away from a direct measurement. For example, for ICESat, you need to know very precisely: (1) the altitude of the satellite above the surface, (2) the ocean surface topography [sea level isn’t constant], (3) the density of the ice and water, and (4) the density and height of the snow cover. All four of these are challenges, though by far the biggest one is #4. There just isn’t a lot of information about snow. ICESat has already provided valuable information about sea ice thickness over large regions of the Arctic and more results will be forthcoming. However, the goal is to continue to improve these estimates to make them even more useful.

This is where surface measurements, radar and drill holes are particularly valuable because they provide “ground truth” – of both ice and snow thickness. The problem with these ground measurements is that it is difficult to obtain a large number of them over a broad area. And this is particularly important for sea ice thickness, which can vary considerably over short distances. This is a limitation of the ice mass balance buoys. There are only a few within the entire Arctic and they measure thickness on a single floe. Even in the immediate vicinity, ice thickness could be quite different than that being measured by the buoy. Thus, while the buoys provide an excellent measurement of thickness at a point through the seasons, they do not provide good information on the large-scale spatial distribution of ice thickness.

Ideally, we’d send a few thousand people out to the Arctic and drill thousands of holes and get good sampling of thickness, but this is just not possible. Even putting out more than a few autonomous buoys are impractical because of the cost of the buoys and the fact that they only last a few years (the ice melts and the buoys are lost, though people are looking about buoys that can float and could potentially be recovered and recycled).

This is where the Catlin expedition can be particularly valuable. To have a group out on the ice taking direct measurements of thickness across a relatively large region (compared to most field expeditions) of the Arctic is something that has only rarely, if ever, been done before. It is unfortunate that the radar may not have worked as well as hoped, but that is the nature of field work, especially in harsh polar environments – things almost never go according to plan. The radar would essentially provide a continuous transect of thickness estimates over several hundred kilometers. However, the drill hole measurements taken regularly over the route will still likely be valuable.

It is also unfortunate that they are not likely to get as much data from multiyear ice as hoped because that is of greater scientific interest, but any ground truth estimates can help improve data from satellites like ICESat is useful. Their planned route looked like it would’ve taken them over ice of varied ages, but the older ice moved out of the area over the winter and, as Steven Goddard showed comparing their position with the ice age data on NSIDC’s web page, they started squarely in first-year ice. Generally, logistics for an expedition need to be planned several months in advance, long before anyone can know how and where precisely the ice will move. Like many scientific expeditions, it seems like they won’t get as much data as hoped, but ground data from the ice is so rare that every little bit helps.

As a final note, since it seems the measuring tape used by Catlin is of great interest, I’ll end with a bit of information on that. Basically, it is simply a measuring tape, but with a collapsible metal flange at the end of the tape. The weight pulls the tape down through the hole to the bottom of the ice. Then you pull the tape taught and the flange opens and catches on the bottom of the ice. You make your measurement, then pull hard on the tape and the flange collapses and you can pull it up through the drill hole. Since such tapes with flanges are relatively specialized, there aren’t many places to get one. One place is Kovacs Ice Drilling Equipment

kovacs_gauge

http://www.kovacsicedrillingequipment.com/ice_thickness_gauge.html

NSIDC has a gauge from Kovacs and it has units of meters and feet, on opposite sides of the tape. I would guess that the Catlin tape is similar, but I don’t want to jump to conclusions.


Response to Dr. Meier by Steven Goddard.

First, I want to thank Dr. Meier for his candid explanation of how Catlin landed on first year ice, and how ice is measured. As always, he has treated our concerns seriously and that is very much appreciated.

Dr. Meier said that the ice “can vary considerably over short distances” and the Catlin web site has said “the team systematically seeks out flatter ice.” That implies to me that there is a geographical bias to the data which makes the entire data set suspect. (That might be analogous to having a temperature set where a disproportionate percentage of the thermometers were located in Urban Heat Islands.) If I were traveling across the Arctic pulling a 100Kg sledge in -40 degree weather, I would certainly seek out the flattest ice, as they have done.

The Catlin team has reported “Snow thickness, measured by the team during the first 2 weeks of March, shows an average snow depth of around 11 centimeters. Since then the average has risen to around 16cm.” Four to six inches of snow hardly sounds like a serious problem in estimating ice thickness in metres. They also said “March snow depths in this area should be 32‐34 cm on multi‐year ice.” If snow thickness is less than expected, does that imply that the satellites may be slightly underestimating the thickness of the ice?

If the multi-year ice shifted over a period of several months ahead of the expedition launch, why was the Catlin team seemingly surprised upon their arrival to find first-year ice? NSIDC knew it was first year ice in February. This reminds me of Lewis Pugh’s attempt to kayak to the North Pole, at a time when NSIDC maps showed the route blocked by 600 miles of ice.

It sounds like the new European satellite Cryostat-2 will provide the desired ice thickness data, without any geographical bias or concern about snow thickness. Speaking as a former amateur explorer, I certainly appreciate and admire the adventurous nature and grit of the Catlin team. However, I don’t see that there is a lot of scientific value to their ice measurement efforts – particularly given their stated disposition towards arriving at a seemingly pre-determined result.

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bill
April 20, 2009 6:04 am

B Kerr (05:40:37) :
Yes bill but what is the yellow “thing” which is in the hole.
The “thing” with numbers on it?

it is a folding ruler they use to measure the water level below the ice surface. Your point is?
When I looked at the other “thing” I thought it could be a tape measure. I looked at it more closely and the part that is shadow looks like a rope.
Observation is not your good point is it? At one moment the “rope” is very thick with regular marks on it (looks like inches to me) and then at the green thing it turns on its side (judging by the shadow) and becomes a very thin “rope” It might be a nylon tape type of rope or it is probably a tape type of measuring tool!

bill
April 20, 2009 6:06 am

Smokey (06:02:29) :
B Kerr (05:40:37)
I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kim
April 20, 2009 6:15 am

We don’t know the value of the ‘science’ they are doing; absent more information about location, that can’t be determined. So far as ‘fraud’ goes, Bill, it seems to me fraudulent for them to claim, and have purveyed through the news media, that they are surprised to be finding so much thin ice. If they really are surprised, they didn’t prepare adequately. If, as many suspect, they aren’t surprised, then the information they are letting out is fraudulent.
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kim
April 20, 2009 6:16 am

The ancient choice; ignorant or disingenuous. You choose.
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Douglas DC
April 20, 2009 6:35 am

I feel that if they are “Rescued” they will put the Aircrews or Icebreaker Crews in peril.
Nothing gets a crew’s toungue wagging like rescuing idiots from a situation they created themselves.I have a friend who was a Canadian SAR (CH-43) driver.I’d love to hear from him about this impending mess.I just hope they don’t end up Polar Bear scat.
Thank you Dr. Meier…
My friend,BTW was last seen with his wife gettng on a plane to Tahiti.No doubt doing a little sea level research on the beaches…

Jack Green
April 20, 2009 6:36 am

Thank you Dr Meier but it would have better for you to post an opinion on the Wilkins Ice Shelf recycled story that one in your own shop perpetrated. The Catlin PR stunt has already been exposed as a fraud. There is no doubt the Arctic is recovering and the world has cooled based on the data you guys have published. How much longer are we mortals going to hear the feedback is going to flood the low lying areas and turn everything else into a desert. Climate is like the weather; mother nature is in control and will always surprise you.

TerryBixler
April 20, 2009 7:11 am

Could Dr. Meier inform Senator Waxman that the Arctic ice floats on the ocean. This might help resolve his confusion on the subject. Further it might help resolve the evaporation conjecture. We have before congress a significant bill, presented by Senator Waxman and some help on the basic science would be useful.

Chris D.
April 20, 2009 7:20 am

Thanks, Dr. Meier.
Re: measuring, if you browse the photo gallery and click on the album labeled “Science Equipment”, you can find a couple of images of Pen Hadow taking measurements using a foldable, rigid ruler at the Polaris Camp – presumably as part of the training they did prior to the expedition. The flexible tape can be seen also. In the same album, there is a fairly good image of it in the foreground of an image showing Hadow packing or inspecting the SPRITE device in an office, but I can’t make out the flange, if one was used.
I do hope they are documenting each drill site with images and GPS locs.

Robert Rust
April 20, 2009 7:21 am

bill (06:06:33) :
“I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
What? Give up your lawsuit already?

P Folkens
April 20, 2009 7:25 am

bill (05:06:55) : “I think I read somewhere that they measure the distance between ice top and water top (in the hole) having left it a few moments for the water to settle.”
Dude! As Dr. Meier points out “. . . most of the ice (~85-90%) is below the surface [of the water] . . .” If, as you think you read somewhere, their measurement if from the ice top to the water in the hole, they will be missing 85% of the ice because “water seeks its own level.”
You didn’t do well in high school science, did you.

Chris D.
April 20, 2009 7:26 am

Ah, my apologies – I see from earlier posters’ comments that my previous post was somewhat redundant. Snip at will. Thanks!

David L. Hagen
April 20, 2009 7:46 am

Some links for those interested in exploring Ground Penetrating Radar in measuring snow/ice:
Ground-Penetrating Radar Applications in Rivers, Lakes, Ice, Snow, and Permafrost US Army ERDC Cold Regions Research & Engineering Lab e.g. see their Ground-Based Crevasse Detection on the Antarctic Ice Sheet (It can get embarrassing to drop a LC-130 aircraft into a crevasse!)
Note:

The profiles (Figure 11.19) not only revealed the thickness of the ice but also that of the snow cover.

2004, p 452, Ground penetrating radar, D. J. Daniels, Institution of Electrical Engineers, 2nd Ed. ISBN 0863413609

In this study Ground Penetrating Radar (GPR) has been used to investigate snow accumulation variability in the southwestern Antarctic Peninsula to aid the interpretation of a new ice core record. The GPR revealed homogeneity in the observed isochrones to a depth of 150 meters, encompassing the depth of the ice core (136 meters), over a 20 km radius from the central drill site. The GPR records have been used to validate accumulation records that reveal a doubling in snowfall in the southwestern Peninsula since 1850 allowing us to infer that this is a true climate signature and not a result of topography changes or flow.

Investigating snow accumulation variability on the Antarctic Peninsula using Ground Penetrating Radar, – A tool for interpreting ice core records, Elizabeth R. Thomas, June 2008, Science report 824, Geophysical Equipment Facility (GEF),
Note that this DOUBLING in snowfall is in the southwestern Peninsula which has the major temperature increase. i.e. the glacier is increasing in thickness, not melting.
Local-scale snow accumulation variability on the Greenland ice sheet from ground-penetrating radar (GPR) John Maurer, University of Colorado at Boulder
Distortion of isochronous layers in ice revealed by ground-penetrating radar David G. Vaughan, Hugh F. J. Corr, Christopher S. M. Doake & Ed. D. Waddington, Nature 398, 323-326 (25 March 1999) | doi:10.1038/18653

INGSOC
April 20, 2009 7:59 am

Dr. Meier has made an excellent argument for disregarding anything that comes of the Catlin “survey”.
I disagree with most of this following statement however; “Like many scientific expeditions, it seems like they won’t get as much data as hoped, but ground data from the ice is so rare that every little bit helps.”
Every “little bit” of bad science, when added up, makes merely a lot of bad science.
Regards and thanks to Dr. Meier for the “sea ice measurement 101” I would argue that most of us lowly peons here were already well versed on this topic though… But every little bit helps!

Mitchel44
April 20, 2009 8:04 am

Thank you Dr Meier for your time and effort in posting here.
Bill, I would have a lot more confidence in the Catlin Expedition if they had been upfront about their equipment failures, but when you advertise yourself as “A pioneering scientific expedition to help determine the lifespan of the Arctic Ocean’s sea ice cover”, then get caught obscuring the reality of what is going on with the “science” you are doing while on your expedition, well I guess that is what makes me a “skeptic”.

AnonyMoose
April 20, 2009 8:10 am

One question: Are such amateur 18th Century style ground surveys really necessary in this day and age? Would it not be possible to install comfortable base stations from which surveyors could sally forth with proper drilling and measuring equipment — and protection?

Of course, at various costs. For some values of “comfortable”, explorers in ships have drifted with the ice. There are plenty of construction and truck components which can be rigged up with remote controls and fuel tanks. With enough money there could be remotely controlled or autonomous devices wandering around the ice, with assorted operational lifetimes. We could pepper the ice with balloon- or missile-delivered ice radar units. Or rent a nice, warm, nuclear-powered submarine. Got money?
It would be nice to include in the data the information of locations and sizes of ice formations and leads, rather than merely note that a lot of walking was needed to get around an obstacle in order to reach a place suitable as both a drilling and camping site. Is this an ice survey or a camping site survey?
Oh, and this is not an amateur project. They’re getting paid, or at least fed, for this work, so they’re professionals. I don’t know if that disqualifies them from the Winter Olympics.

Roger Knights
April 20, 2009 8:15 am

Typo: Use “taut” in:
“Then you pull the tape taught …”

brazil84
April 20, 2009 8:19 am

While in theory it’s a good idea to have people making measurements on the ground, I don’t trust this particular set of people.

kim
April 20, 2009 8:20 am

It sounds like Waxman and Boehner both need a little more science in their diets. Boehner just recently spoke of CO2 being ‘carcinogenic’.
Well, a little more science might not be a bad idea. Read Plimer’s ‘Heaven and Earth; Global Warming, the Missing Science’. There is an excellent review of it in the Australian, found through icecap.us
Another great read is Peter Huber’s new article in the City Journal, ‘Bound to Burn’. He explains why we’ll not wean off energy from hydrocarbons soon. Aren’t you glad that CO2 doesn’t really warm the planet much?
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April 20, 2009 8:23 am

bill (05:49:58) :
hunter (05:23:09) :
… Catlin = fraud = AGW.
Are you suggesting Smokey that at -40C they wander around the ice tapping the ice to find the thinnest and then drill. I would suggest they do what they say they are doing – lay out a line and drill every few metres. Or are you also accusing them of fraud? in which case I’m sure the legal people would be interested.
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How terrifying ……. legal people being interested !!
Would Catlin be the plaintiff or the defendant Bill ??

hereticfringe
April 20, 2009 8:26 am

Dr. Meier,
You stated on your website on April 6th that because most of the Artic ice is “thin” first year ice, that it would melt rapidly. The data so far shows that the melt rate is slower than past years, and the ice extent is converging on the 1978-2000 average. Why is this? Why was your forecast so far off?

pyromancer76
April 20, 2009 8:29 am

I am grateful to Dr. Meier for his lesson on sea ice measurement re thickness. I certainly have benefited. My biggest concern is about how scientifically, how accurately, any expedition that calls itself scientific is measuring sea ice. I did not see much in the way of intelligent planning or truthful reporting from the Catlin expedition. If my memory serves me, multi-year ice is pretty much in one area of the arctic at present; the Catlin expedition began far away from the multi-year and in a place where ocean currents, which move the ice, were against them.
Dr. Meier said: “This is where the Catlin expedition can be particularly valuable. To have a group out on the ice taking direct measurements of thickness across a relatively large region (compared to most field expeditions) of the Arctic is something that has only rarely, if ever, been done before.”
Others on this blog have noted that the findings of this group seem to have been decided before the expedition got underway. The headline sponsor, The Catlin Group, Ltd, is underwriting insurance for “climate change”; In October 2007 a Group subsidiary that manages the Catlin Syndicate at Lloyd’s joined Climate Wise, an initiative to sponsor research, public debate, reduce environmental impact, and support climate awareness of clients; this group has entered into a contract with Carbon Neutral Co, a leading carbon offset and consulting business. They will purchase offset credits and use them to finance alternative energy and other environmentally sound projects.
Then of course there is the WWF, and the fact that the findings will “taken to the national negotiating teams working to replace the Kyoto Protocol agreement at the UN Climate Change Conference of Parties in Copenhagen in December 2009” (From Insurance Journal 3/09).
With these purposes in mind, and with the lack of scientific integrity of the on-the-ground researchers, It is hard to imagine anything but “cooked” data and interpretations, the primary concerns of those reading this blog.
I would think that anyone who was going to make any reasonable measurements of the sea ice would coordinate those measurements with both upward looking sonar and the altimeter, then maybe some truth would be forthcoming.
I would appreciate Dr. Meier’s comments on the scientific integrity of this particular effort to measure sea ice.

Pamela Gray
April 20, 2009 8:30 am

If this truly were an effort to substantiate ice conditions with ground sonar and not a publicity stunt, the same re-supply helicopter would have been employed to run out to a spot, drop a team, take measurements, get back in, and so on. While I appreciate Dr. Meier’s post, I could have developed a better scientific experiment and I have neither a doctorate, nor a background in measuring polar ice. However, I have published scientific discovery and I do know well designed and carried out experiments. The Catlin stunt is just that, a stunt. The data is most likely contaminated and useless, or there is nothing to validly compare it to, thus still being useless. The Catlin team and their sponsors should be banned from further scientific endeavors via blacklist.

John F. Hultquist
April 20, 2009 8:48 am

Just in case you missed these:
ONE: The reference to Waxman (TerryBixler (07:11:21) : ) includes the following quote:
“We’re seeing the reality of a lot of the North Pole starting to evaporate, and we could get to a tipping point. Because if it evaporates to a certain point – they have lanes now where ships can go that couldn’t ever sail through before. And if it gets to a point where it evaporates too much, there’s a lot of tundra that’s being held down by that ice cap.”
One report is here:
http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2009/04/i-may-have-been-wrong-when-i-said-government-officials-werent-dumb.html
TWO: For all who have an image of old thick ice on the Arctic Ocean, maybe you missed this:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/13/watching-the-2007-historic-low-sea-ice-flow-out-of-the-arctic-sea/#more-7019
Scroll to the video and watch it, noting the date in the upper right. This makes me want to do a ‘search and replace’ on the word ‘melt’ regarding Arctic ice – ‘melt’ to be replaced with ‘flushed out.’

jorgekafkazar
April 20, 2009 8:54 am

David L. Hagen (07:46:23) : “Some links for those interested in exploring Ground Penetrating Radar in measuring snow/ice…”
Excellent! I quoted from your comment here over on the relevant CA thread. I’m particularly interested in where the latent heat goes from all that water vapor turning into Antarctic snow…
Thanks to those who made all the considerate, reasoned comments here, and especially to Dr. Meier.

John F. Hultquist
April 20, 2009 8:55 am

Roy Spencer has an informative post at this time also:
Some Global Warming Q&A To Consider in Light of the EPA Ruling
There is at least one back-link to WUWT about previous flushing of sea ice from the Arctic bowl. From March of 2008 post:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/03/16/you-ask-i-provide-november-2nd-1922-arctic-ocean-getting-warm-seals-vanish-and-icebergs-melt/