You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

Roger Carr recently wrote in comments:

HELP WANTED: I am trying to purchase (or plunder) a full copy of this story, mentioned here on this forum:

A Washington, D.C. resident John Lockwood was conducting research at the Library of Congress and came across an intriguing headline in the Nov. 2, 1922 edition of The Washington Post: Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

The article mentions “great masses of ice have now been replaced by moraines of earth and stones,” and “at many points well-known glaciers have entirely disappeared.”

The original source of the story resurfacing recently was from an Inside the Beltway column of August 14th, 2007. The newspaper article was located in the Library of Congress archives by James Lockwood.

Here is the text of the Washington Post (Associated Press) article:

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway.
Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm.
Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

UPDATE:

The source report of the Washington Post article on changes in the arctic has been found in the Monthly Weather Review for November 1922. It is much more detailed than the Washington Post (Associated Press) article. It seems the AP heaviliy relied on the report from Norway Consulate George Ifft, which is shown below. See the original MWR article below and click the newsprint copy for a complete artice or see the link to the original PDF below:

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Click the article to see the full article changing-arctic_monthly_wx_review.png.

The PDF of that page exists here from NOAA’s archives. Thanks to Michael Ronayne for locating it and many other resources you can find in the comments section below.

If Yogi Berra were here to comment on the hullabaloo over the changes in the arctic today, I’m pretty sure he’d say. “It’s Deja Vu all over again”.

;-)

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78 thoughts on “You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

  1. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! THE ICE IS MELT…

    What?

    1922?

    Really?

    No way.

    Come on, that’s not funny…

    ———————–

    The more we learn the less we know, it seems.

  2. Does anyone know of any independent confirmation of this news report?

    REPLY: The news article cites according to a report to the Commerce Department from Consul Geroge N. Ifft, at Bergen, Norway. Somebody should be able to back track it.

  3. My hat’s off.
    I doubt any hockey sticks generated by creative bristlecone tree ring analysis will make this story go away.

  4. Thank you Mr. Watts for this hot “news”. “in some places the seals are finding the waters too hot” – in 1922. Sounds very much like the autumn season – but 85 years later! And after a cold winter, the warmists now spotted a leak of warm air into the arctic region and just reported about drowning young seals in the Northern Baltic Sea because of thin ice. But they did not report about the record recovery of the rest of the arctic sea ice. Cherry picking? You bet!

  5. The language similarities with today’s language are astonishing. One could easily change the date of this article to November 2, 2007.
    Must be a tough job being a jounalist today – just dig up some old articles, digitalise them and change the dates!

  6. The article is consistent with temperature records from northernmost weather stations.

    I really would like to see an estimate of climate change based on records from known good weather stations.

  7. In 2006 the BMI (Business and Media Institute) did an excellent Summary of Media reporting in the last 100 years or so. It cites many examples, which should be easy to follow-up as they reference dates and publications:

    http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2006/fireandice/fireandice.asp

    They did an update last year “150 Years of Global Warming and Cooling at the New York Times” :

    http://newsbusters.org/node/11640

    A quick extract. Both the above links have a wealth of references going back over 100 years.

    Warming Arctic Climate Melting Glaciers Faster, Raising Ocean Level, Scientist Says

    May 30, 1947, Friday

    By GLADWIN HILLSpecial to THE NEW YORK TIMES.

    Page 23, 366 words

    DISPLAYING FIRST PARAGRAPH – LOS ANGELES, May 29 — A mysterious warming of the climate is slowly manifesting itself in the Arctic, engendering a “serious international problem,” Dr. Hans Ahlmann, noted Swedish geophysicist, said today.

  8. Of course, the alarmists will say that the melting of 1922 was due to natural causes, while the present one is anthropogenic!

  9. The NWS needs to change from the antiquated system of 30 year climate averages to a more reasonable 100 year climate average. Almost all stations now have a 100 year history.

  10. The New York Time (AKA: The Old Gray Lady), America’s Newspaper of Record, confirmed the story on Sunday February 25, 1923.

    REPORT THE ARCTIC IS GETTING WARMER; Explorers and Fishermen Find Climate Moderating About Spitzbergen. FIRST NOTED ABOUT 1918 Old Glaciers Have Disappeared — Changes in Flora and Fauna.

    February 25, 1923, Sunday
    Section: EDITORIAL SECTION, Page E6, 696 words

    The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers who sail the seas about Spitzbergen and the Eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto unheard of temperatures in that part of the earth. Old glaciers have disappeared and land once covered with field ice is bare.

    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00F13F7395516738DDDAC0A94DA405B838EF1D3

    As one would expect from the National Newspaper of Record, additional details are provide including the fact that the changes were first observed in 1918. There are enough details that we may be able to located research papers by a Dr. Adolf Holt of the University of Christiana in Norway. The research was funded by the Norwegian Department of Commerce. Can a reader in Norway located papers published by Dr. Holt in the early 1920’s?

    The report reads like a Greenpeace press release!

    I have the PDF which I will Email to Anthony.

    Mike

  11. @Climatepatrol
    I can confirm that you’ve said. German radio NDR1 and newspapers ran that story 2 days here.

  12. That’s a great link to the NYT search engine, Michael. Wish I had a subscription to read the whole articles! Some of the first paragraphs have startling similarities to today’s headlines!

    This one caugh my eye from 1930:

    A NEW CHAPTER WRITTEN BY THE GLACIER

    WORD comes from Switzerland that the Alpine glaciers are in full retreat. Out of 102 glaciers observed by Professor P.L. Mercanton of the University of Lausanne and his associates more than twothirds have been found to be shrinking.

    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50B16FC3D5F11738DDDA80A94DA415B808FF1D3&scp=44&sq=warming+arctic&st=p

    1935: Glaciers retreat at twice normal:

    GLACIERS’ EBB SPED BY HOT ’34 SUMMER; Last Remnants of Ice Age Are Receding at Double-Time, Geologists Are Told.

    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70C15F73B5D167A93CAAB178FD85F418385F9&scp=6&sq=glaciers&st=p

  13. This searching is too addicitive! From September 1924:

    MACMILLAN REPORTS SIGNS OF NEW ICE AGE; Explorer Brings Word of Unusual Movements of Greenland Glaciers — Coal Deposits Show Polar Climate Was Once Tropical. NATURE is in a strange mood beyond the Arctic Circle, Glaciers are moving from their age-old beds, pouring greater quantities of ice into the sea than recorded history has known. Broad areas of land are sinking to new levels. A number of islands have disappeared.

    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA0C14FB3C5B12738DDDA10A94D1405B848EF1D3&scp=10&sq=glaciers&st=p

  14. How much of this stuff from the past lines up with PDO shifts?

    REPLY: Good question, we’ll take a look

  15. In my previous post there was a typo Dr. Adolf Hoel’s name which is corrected here.

    The New York Times has additional storied on Dr. Adolf Hoel, including this one for September 13, 1923. From this story we learn the Dr. Hoel has been conducting artic research from about 1906.

    SPITZBERGEN COAST SURVEY COMPLETED; Norwegian Scientist Finds Good Anchorages and New Navigable Waters on the Island.

    September 13, 1923, Thursday
    Section: FINANCIAL, Page 31, 334 words

    CHRISTIANLA, Sept. 12. — Dr. Adolf Hoel of Christiania University, who every Summer for the last seventeen years has been engaged in the scientific exploration off Spitzbergen, has Just returned after a highly interesting voyage.

    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F7061FF83D5D15738DDDAA0994D1405B838EF1D3

    The New York Times appears to have a minimum of 12 reports on the artic research of Dr. Adolf Hoel and there may be more than that number.

    http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22Dr.+Adolf++Hoel%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=31&submit.y=10

    http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22Adolf++Hoel%22&srchst=p&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980&submit.x=34&submit.y=6

    I will review the additional reports and forward a list to Anthony.

    Mike

  16. More from Dr. Adolf Hoel on polar ice and sun spots.

    POLAR ICE-DRIFT AND SUN SPOTS.
    By GEORGEN ICOLAISF FT, American Coned.
    [Bergen, Norway, Dec. 6,1922.1

    http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-12-0631b.pdf

    We need to get all of Dr. Hoel’s research papers! There are some in JStore which I can order.

    Here is a partial list:

    http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&safe=active&q=%22Adolf+Hoel%22&btnG=Search

    I am really starting to like Dr. Hoel!

    Mike

  17. This is very interesting. George Nicolas Ifft was the American consul in Bergen Norway. Amongst his responsibilities was to file reports with the State Department in Washington D.C., some of which were published in the Monthly Weather Review. In today terms, Mr. Ifft was a State Department Intelegance Officer.

    THE CHANGING ARCTIC.
    By George Nicolas Ifft
    [Under data of October 10, 1922, the American consul at Bergen Norway, submitted the following report to the State Department, Washington, D.C.]

    http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf

    The Washington Post story was published on November 2nd, 1922, so this October 10, 1922, State Department report is the most likely the un-attributed source of the Associated Press report. This could also have been a deliberate plant by the State Department.

    Just as today’s nations north of the Arctic Circle have territorial ambitions in an ice free Arctic, Norway may have had ulterior motives for funding Dr. Adolf Hoel’s voyages of discovery. This would also explain the State Department’s interest in Dr. Adolf Hoel.

    The report in Wikipedia on Adolf Hoel confirms these suspicions.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hoel

    There are other reports on the Internet which I am investigating, pertaining to Norway’s territorial ambitions in the Arctic.

    Mike

  18. Just for the record, as a sidebar, Yogi Berra is still very much alive and may very well be saying that very thing with which you credit him!

    REPLY: When I meant “here today”, I meant on this blog reading about climate change. Sorry for the unintentional implication.

  19. Of course, the Y2K error, pointed out by Steve McIntire last summer and which reorganised the warmest year chart for the USA, doesn’t apply to the rest of the world and MWP was a local event.

  20. There are other reports on the Internet which I am investigating, pertaining to Norway’s territorial ambitions in the Arctic.

    So the threat of climate catastrophe was used for political manipulation then as it is today.

  21. It appears that Dr. Adolf Hoel was involved with the Norwegian National Unity Party and was suspected of being a Nazi collaborator during World War II when he was accused of providing aid to infiltrate a German spy into Greenland. Dr. Adolf Noel was always a strong advocate of Norwegian territorial expansion and was very interested in acquiring Greenland for Norway.

    Norwegian Arctic expansionism, Victoria Island (Russia) and the Bratvaag expedition

    http://pubs.aina.ucalgary.ca/arctic/Arctic51-4-330.pdf

    “A cursed affair”—how a Norwegian expedition to Greenland became the USA’s first maritime capture in World War II

    http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1751-8369.2007.00019.x

    There is a picture of Dr. Adolf Noel on page 3 of this paper. So we have Norwegians, German Nazis, Americans, scientists, arctic explores and spies all over the place. This would make a great movie script!

    Note that I have not verified the accuracy of any of the allegations.

    Mike

  22. Neill~ Before I moved to Canada, the mail-order pharmacy I was working at was still shipping meds to Jerry Garcia. We figure he was with Elvis. Yogi might just be hanging out with them, ya know?

  23. I’m going to disappoint people on both sides of this issue. First, Although we live on the cooled, dry, crust of a volcanic planet we tend not to see things, events, in terms of, say, geologic time or time frames that can actually tell us something. Evaluating what is happening now, such as global warming, by looking at the last 150 years to present is not a lot of help so sure, we get misleading information on the subject. Yeah, yippee, we don’t have to get off our lazy cans and actually do something, like act environmentally responsible. Or do we? Here’s the inescapable truth and it will bum some folks out. While we may or may not be the direct cause of global warming, our planet and everything associated with it is part of a balanced system. Any impacts to it will have positive or negative effects which will, in turn, help or harm us; the latter being more the case. There is not one molecule of evidence to suggest that we, humans, have a positive impact on the planet. In terms of that, a seagull has more benefit . It is, therefore, a “good bet” that climate change is real and in part associated with us. The question is: how much is really us and can anything be done about it before future generations – our children, are harmed or even devastated by it. Can we change in a way that will ensure future generations a chance at life without global famine, starvation, poverty, societal collapse and strife? What are we working towards? What are you working towards?

    We can play some one-upsmanship on the issue or we can try for a better future whether we are “warming” or not.

  24. Robert Norwood (14:29:53) says:
    “Can we change in a way that will ensure future generations a chance at life without global famine, starvation, poverty, societal collapse and strife? What are we working towards? What are you working towards?”

    But the devil is in the details. What do we do? If CO2 is the problem then we can justify spending trillions pumping the stuff underground. However, if CO2 is a red herring then that money would be wasted.

    Many sceptics are environmentalists who fear that this obession will CO2 will hurt the environment in the long run because people will be fooled into believing that cutting CO2 is the only thing they need to do. The papal indulgences called carbon offsets are perfect examples.

  25. What are we working towards? Scientific knowledge, and ultimately, Truth, which is the exact opposite of what the AGWers want. AGW is a huge lie, and lies are the basis for totalitarian governments.

  26. I did some poking around with google earth. The reference point 81.5 deg north is slightly north of Svalbard (the island to the east of greenland and to the north of iceland). According to illinois cryrosphere that latitude had ice in every August I checked from 1979 to 2007.

    http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=08&fd=16&fy=1979&sm=08&sd=16&sy=2007

    In other words this report suggests that there was less ice that part of the arctic in august 1922 than there was during the ‘record setting’ melt of 2007.

  27. For someone who was long dead before the Internet, George Nicolas Ifft has quite a data trail in Google. Apparently he and other State Department consuls were expected to file detailed reports about the countries in which they served.

    Two spelling of his name appear in Google, which has already indexed my earlier post on Mr. Ifft.

    Here are the records for the George Nicolas Ifft.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=%22George+Nicolas+Ifft%22&hl=en&safe=active&filter=0

    Most of these the reports for George Nicholas Ifft appear to be family members but some are of interest to us.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=%22George+Nicholas+Ifft%22&hl=en&safe=active&filter=0

    The reporting levels from consuls were so extensive that the New York Times took note of the fact in 1914.

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D04E4D61E39E633A25753C1A9639C946596D6CF

    “MOVIES” REIGN EVERYWHERE; Reports from All Over the World Show They Stand High in Popular Favor.

    May 10, 1914, Sunday
    Section: Magazine, Page SM5, 774 words

    AMERICAN Consuls in European and other foreign countries have recently been sending reports to Washington on the motion picture industry, these reports showing that east and west, north and south, the “movies” now hold sway and are playing a star role in the amusements of the nations.

    Even the transatlantic travels of the Ifft family are recorded between Europe and their home in Pocatello Idaho.

    http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/search/matchMore.asp?kind=exact&FNM=&LNM=ifft&x=53&y=3&dwpdone=1

    The reports of consuls could be an interesting source of firsthand information on many subjects.

    Mike

  28. Reply to Robert Norwood:

    Robert
    As the sun ages, it gets hotter. Someday, in the distant future, it will be putting out so much heat that living things will not be able to live on this planet. Us humans will be the force that will take samples of life and move from this inhospitable planet to another hospitable one. That is the destiny of our species.

  29. Interesting that in the article quoted, Ifft describes the melt as “favourable ice conditions”. Pity the present day commentators aren’t as circumspect.

  30. In 1845, John Franklin tried to navigate an Arctic waterway, only to become trapped in ice in an area that had been much warmer two decades before. Clearly the amount of Arctic ice is cyclical in the long term.

  31. I drew a line on top of the August 16th, 2007 ice extent at 81deg 29minutes:

    As you can see there is no way a boat would have reported ice free waters at that latitude in August 2007. The comparison even gets worse if you look at recent cooler years such as 2000.
    Frankly, I was surprised at the result and I expected the 2007 melt to be much further than the melt in 1922. The fact that it is even close suggests that the recent melt of the arctic ice may not be as unprecedented as many people claim.

    REPLY: Raven are you sure of the image you created? Thinking of making a new post around it and other info I? have. -Anthony

  32. My earlier post I’m guessing was deleted because it was not a direct link? I found the original below. Interesting read.
    IS OUR CLIMATE CHANGING? A STUDY OF LONG-TIME TEMPERATURE TRENDS

    http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/061/mwr-061-09-0251.pdf

    REPLY: Hi DR, perhaps your earlier post got caught in the SPAM filter, that sometimes happens. Thanks for providing this resource, it is quite interesting.

  33. It was a quick mock up eyeballing on my screen with google earth so the error bars are at least +/-0.5 deg. It was a good faith effort and I did not intentionally cherry pick. To do something worthy of seperate post it would be best to sort out when exactly they collected their data and plot their trip. This could all be put on a google earth map file. I would be willing to look at doing this. You can send me an email if you want to discuss further.
    (you don’t need to post this message on the forum).

  34. The more one becomes aware of (climate) history the less credence the statement “unprecedented” this or that becomes.

    I was messing around with the CET temperatures the other day and in the period ~1695 to 1733 the temperature climbed at a rate of 4 deg C/ century and there are other examples in that record of ~ 1.5 Deg/ century increases and decreases of temperature.

    I guess if Al was living in those days he would be out burning witches and trading broomsticks credits.

  35. Those wishing to explore the topic of Arctic conditions in the 1930s might research the “Second International Polar Year”, which I believe was 1933.

  36. BTW, I suspect that most of the Second International Polar Year reports are sitting in libraries, collecting dust. The most interesting data probably has to be found the old-fashioned (pre-Google) way – searching library shelves.

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  38. I’m a newby here. Will someone post a link to what the Mann hockey stick looks like after McKitric and McIntyre’s statistical corrections are applied? Actually, a before and after would be better. Thanks.

    REPLY: I don’t hae the graph here, but check on http://www.climateaudit.org and post the same message on unthreaded #32 there and you’ll get a response.

  39. This guy here has a website examining in detail the climate scientist’s peer reviewed “et al”s, from the first climate stations put in the Arctic right on through to the heatwaves of the 40’s.

    Link – He has maps of ice extent in the spitzenberg and surrounds in pencil by the climate people who lived in the early 1900.
    Get this.
    Instead of blaiming global warming on co2, the climate scientists of the 1920’s (probably urged on by their socialist drinking buddies) were blaiming it on World War 1 Naval activity.
    Another one of those cases of seeing a causative agent you don’t like, and then inventing a terrible life changing result, to fool the public into action.
    “We can’t keep building those battleships – think of the children in the next century (2000) who will have to live in the steambath future world !!!!”

  40. MIKE (and the others who are interested in the Norwegian political expansionist angle): the Norwegian ambassador to the US covering this period (he was in office 1910 – 1927) was Helmer Halvorsen Bryn – my great-grandfather. He played a key role in negotiating Norwegian control of the coal in Spitzbergen. The Norwegian explorer Fritjof Nansen also got involved in US-Norwegian government negotiations. Perhaps if you search around a bit including the name Bryn or “HH Bryn” or variants, you will find more.

  41. Great find! There’s plenty of evidence that shows a natural heating and cooling of the earth take place every so often. Let’s not forget that 2012 is right around the corner, so we all need to prepare for doomsday. Then after 2012, we need to find another end of the world date. Perhaps from Penguins or some other ancient culture.

  42. Guys, I gotta tell you, I’ve been playing around with the links that Bruce posted a few days ago from the GISS site. I’ve been searching for long term (at least 1900-2000) rural data. There is very very little to find. A whole bunch of stations start in the 1940s and 1950s. Of the few stations I found in the GISS network that have data covering the entire 20th century, nearly every one of them has the 1920s-1930s as warm, if not warmer, than the current period. Which begs the question how they have determined the global temperature was so much less in that period compared to today when all the data I can find covering that period says it’s roughly the same?

  43. MattN (08:24:33) :
    “Which begs the question how they have determined the global temperature was so much less in that period compared to today when all the data I can find covering that period says it’s roughly the same?”
    Every piece of temperature data is heavily manipulated by various algorithms intended to ‘correct’ problems in the data. In some cases these algorithms have a precise numerical basis. In many other cases, they are nothing but educated guesses made by people who assume that the temperature has risen.

    That said, these manipulations are not necessarily wrong. However, the fact that the manipulations were applied injects a huge amount of uncertainty into the data.

  44. Raven, is data like this: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/gistemp_station.py?id=431043600000&data_set=1&num_neighbors=1
    corrected or uncorrected?

    What I’ve been doing is going here:

    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/station_data/

    and clicking on various places in each continent and looking for long-term data listed as “rural”, or most with a small population. Almost 100% of the rural records covering the 20th century show the 1920s-1930s as warm or warmer than the 1990s-2000s. The only long-term data that shows any significant trend is limited to extremely large urban areas like Tokyo: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/gistemp_station.py?id=210476620003&data_set=1&num_neighbors=1

  45. There is data on NH ice extent which goes back to 1870. See here for a discussion and analysis of that data.

    The recent arctic melt breaks records over the entire dataset.

    REPLY: That post is a bit stale, there’s no mention of the recent rebound and heading positive anomaly of arctic sea ice extent in it.

  46. Anthony,

    “That post is a bit stale”

    Well it’s a tad more recent than 1922.

    By rebound I think you’re referring to winter, which would put you on thin ice. :-)

  47. This brings up the questions you must always ask the Global Warming Scare Mongers: Given that the earth has been cooler and warmer than it now is, what should be the temperature of the earth? How will we know when we have reached the right temperature?

  48. Raven, thanks for the link. I’ve seen a few of the CA entries on Hansen’s adjustment. It seems Steve has figured out WHAT Hansen has done, just can’t figure out WHY he did those adjustments. Some make no sense at all. Hansen appears drunk and disorderly with the data adjustments.

  49. “… what should be the temperature of the earth? How will we know when we have reached the right temperature?”

    ANSWER: The average land / sea temp reached after the final breath of warm CO2 passes the lips of the last AGW denialist.

    REPLY: And now we see the real face of this movement revealed.

  50. If the inflamatory remark above was offensive to AGW-ers, I’ll apologize.

    Another interesting site for “local weather” reports from U.S. history is “The Weather Doctor”.

    http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/doctor.htm

    It has a number of journal-reported stories on weather.

    One called, “Eighteen Hundred and Froze To Death” caught my eye.

  51. Interesting how the Northern Hemisphere ice extents back to the 1880’s demonstrated in Taminos post here especially this image seems to follow pretty well with PDO and solar irradiance as you posted here .

    Although pre-satellite data is not going to be nearly as accurate, so who knows what the true numbers are.

  52. Anthony,
    The Northern Hemisphere ice may not (yet) have a positive anomaly (relative to 1978-2000 mean), but globally, sea ice is at a positive anomaly.

    REPLY: That is true.

  53. Wonderful, albeit corrosive, paragraph, papertiger: “We can’t keep building those battleships – think of the children in the next century (2000) who will have to live in the steambath future world !!!!”

  54. Anthony, great post. I am new to your site, having been at Bretts site (accuweather) for a while. I sent your 1922 article with your link to everyone in my address book.

    I did a quick search and did not see the following mentioned here? I found it quite interesting and I apologize if it is a repeat.

    Dr. Gerhard Loebert:
    A Compilation of the Arguments that Irrefutably Prove that Climate Change is driven by Solar Activity and not by CO2 Emission

    Dr. Gerhard Loebert, Otterweg 48, 85598 Baldham, Germany. March 6, 2008.
    Physicist. Recipient of The Needle of Honor of German Aeronautics.
    Program Manager “CCV, F 104G” (see Internet).
    Program Manager “Lampyridae, MRMF” (see Internet)
    Conveyor of a super-Einsteinian theory of gravitation that explains, among many other post-Einstein-effects, the Sun-Earth-Connection and the true cause of the global climate changes.

    I. Climatological facts

    As the glaciological and tree ring evidence shows, climate change is a natural phenomenon that has occurred many times in the past, both with the magnitude as well as with the time rate of temperature change that have occurred in the recent decades. The following facts prove that the recent global warming is not man-made but is a natural phenomenon.

    1. In the temperature trace of the past 10 000 years based on glaciological evidence, the recent decades have not displayed any anomalous behaviour. In two-thirds of these 10 000 years, the mean temperature was even higher than today. Shortly before the last ice age the temperature in Greenland even increased by 15 degrees C in only 20 years. All of this without any man-made CO2 emission!

    2. There is no direct connection between CO2 emission and climate warming. This is shown by the fact that these two physical quantities have displayed an entirely different temporal behaviour in the past 150 years. Whereas the mean global temperature varied in a quasi-periodic manner, with a mean period of 70 years, the CO2 concentration has been increasing exponentially since the 1950’s. The sea level has been rising and the glaciers have been shortening practically linearly from 1850 onwards. Neither time trace showed any reaction to the sudden increase of hydrocarbon burning from the 1950’s onwards.

    3. The hypothesis that the global warming of the past decades is man-made is based on the results of calculations with climate models in which the main influence on climate is not included. The most important climate driver (besides solar luminosity) comes from the interplay of solar activity, interplanetary magnetic field strength, cosmic radiation intensity, and cloud cover of the Earth atmosphere. As is shown in Section II, this phenomenon is generated by the action of galactic vacuum density waves on the core of the Sun.

    4. The extremely close correlation between the changes in the mean global temperature and the small changes in the rotational velocity of the Earth in the past 150 years (see Fig. 2.2 of http://www.fao.org/DOCREP/005/Y2787E/y2787e03.htm), which has been ignored by the mainstream climatologists, leaves little room for a human influence on climate. This close correlation results from the action of galactic vacuum density waves on the Sun and on the Earth (see Section II). Note that temperature lags rotation by 6 years.

    5. From the steady decrease of the rotational velocity of the Earth that set in in Dec. 2003, it can reliably be concluded that the mean Earth temperature will decrease again in 2010 for the duration of three decades as it did from 1872 to 1913 and from 1942 to 1972.

    6. The RSS AMSU satellite measurements show that the global temperature has not increased since 2001 despite the enormous worldwide CO2 emissions. Since 2006 it has been decreasing again.

    II. Physical explanation for the strong correlation between fluctuations of the rotational velocity and changes of the mean surface temperature of the Earth

    Despite its great successes, the gravitational theory of the great physicist Albert Einstein, General Relativity, (which is of a purely geometric nature and is totally incompatible with the highly successful quantum theory) must be discarded because this theory is completely irreconcilable with the extremely large energy density of the vacuum that has been accurately measured in the Casimir experiment.

    Seaon Theory, a new theory of gravitation based on quantum mechanics that was developed eight decades after General Relativity, not only covers the well-known Einstein-effects but also shows up half a dozen post-Einstein effects that occur in nature. From a humanitarian standpoint, the most important super-Einsteinian physical phenomenon is the generation of small-amplitude longitudinal gravitational waves by the motion of the supermassive bodies located at the center of our galaxy, their transmission throughout the Galaxy, and the action of these waves on the Sun, the Earth and the other celestial bodies through which they pass. These vacuum density waves, which carry with them small changes in the electromagnetic properties of the vacuum, occur in an extremely large period range from minutes to millennia.

    On the Sun, these vacuum waves modulate the intensity of the thermonuclear energy conversion process within the core, and this has its effect on all physical quantities of the Sun (this is called solar activity). This in turn has its influences on the Earth and the other planets. In particular, the solar wind and the solar magnetic field strength are modulated which results in large changes in the intensity of the cosmic radiation reaching the Earth. Cosmic rays produce condensation nuclei so that the cloud cover of the atmosphere and the Earth albedo also change.

    On the Earth, the steady stream of vacuum density waves produces parts-per-billion changes in a large number of geophysical quantities. The most important quantities are the radius, circumference, rotational velocity, gravitational acceleration, VLBI baseline lengths, and axis orientation angles of the Earth, as well as the orbital elements of all low-earth-orbit satellites. All of these fluctuations have been measured.

    Irrefutable evidence for the existence of this new, super-Einsteinian wave type is provided by the extremely close correlation between changes of the mean temperature and fluctuations of the mean rotational velocity of the Earth. (see the figure referred to in Section I.4). Einsteinian theory cannot explain this amazing correlation between two physical quantities that seem to be completely unrelated.

    While the rotational velocity of the Earth and the thermonuclear energy conversion process on the Sun react simultaneously to the passage of a vacuum density wave, a time span of 6 years is needed for the energy to be transported from the core of the Sun to the Earth’s atmosphere and for the latter’s reaction time.

    As can be seen, super-Einsteinian gravitation reveals the true cause of climate change.

    REPLY: It is the music of the spheres, interconected.

  55. Which is why the whole idea of a 1979 – 2000 baseline for ice extent is foolhardy. The appropriate baseline may be something far different than the 1979 – 2000 mean.

  56. 1999:

    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/286/5446/1934

    “Surface and satellite-based observations show a decrease in Northern Hemisphere sea ice extent during the past 46 years.”

    Isn’t it interesting that Tamino claims NH sea ice has been declining since 1965 … and this paper says NH Sea Ice has been declining since 1933.

    I guess AGW works better if you don’t point
    You know … if Tamino said the sky was blue, I would check.

    An alternative point of view:

    http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2007/10/30/arctic-sea-ice-another-hockey-stick/

    “But, despite these shortcomings, it is interesting to note that the Russian reconstruction includes a far greater degree of interdecadal variation, including a large decline from 1900 to the 1940s, a recovery from the 1940s into the late 1960s (quite possibly underestimated due to insufficient data during the early part of this period), and a then a subsequent decline to the present.”

  57. So much of the story of the past, not least regarding glaciers, is remarkably well-told in Emmanuel LeRoy Ladurie’s, Times of Feast, Times of Famine, published in 1971. The data of the glacial retreat (hardly glacial in its rapidity) in the 1940s and early 1950s (esp. p. 96) contrasts with the current panic about retreating glaciers (BBC News, 16 Mar 2008).

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  59. An even older GW story:

    Part I of Chapter IX: The State of Germany till the Invasion of the Barbarians, in the Time of the Emperor Decius of The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon originally published in 1776:

    Some ingenious writers have suspected that Europe was much colder formerly than it is at present; and the most ancient descriptions of the climate of Germany tend exceedingly to confirm their theory. The general complaints of intense frost and eternal winter, are perhaps little to be regarded, since we have no method of reducing to the accurate standard of the thermometer, the feelings, or the expressions, of an orator born in the happier regions of Greece or Asia. But I shall select two remarkable circumstances of a less equivocal nature. 1. The great rivers which covered the Roman provinces, the Rhine and the Danube, were frequently frozen over, and capable of supporting the most enormous weights. The barbarians, who often chose that severe season for their inroads, transported, without apprehension or danger, their numerous armies, their cavalry, and their heavy wagons, over a vast and solid bridge of ice. Modern ages have not presented an instance of a like phenomenon. 2. The reindeer, that useful animal, from whom the savage of the North derives the best comforts of his dreary life, is of a constitution that supports, and even requires, the most intense cold. He is found on the rock of Spitzberg, within ten degrees of the Pole; he seems to delight in the snows of Lapland and Siberia: but at present he cannot subsist, much less multiply, in any country to the south of the Baltic. In the time of Cæsar the reindeer, as well as the elk and the wild bull, was a native of the Hercynian forest, which then overshadowed a great part of Germany and Poland. The modern improvements sufficiently explain the causes of the diminution of the cold. These immense woods have been gradually cleared, which intercepted from the earth the rays of the sun. The morasses have been drained, and, in proportion as the soil has been cultivated, the air has become more temperate. Canada, at this day, is an exact picture of ancient Germany. Although situated in the same parallel with the finest provinces of France and England, that country experiences the most rigorous cold. The reindeer are very numerous, the ground is covered with deep and lasting snow, and the great river of St. Lawrence is regularly frozen, in a season when the waters of the Seine and the Thames are usually free from ice.

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    His land use change theory has similarities to more contemporary science like Roger Pielke Sr. e.g.

  60. I live in the Far North, and I agree with Robert Norwood — people can play endless games of one-upmanship, or they can plan for living in an environ-ment which does not have the same degree of climate stability that we have historically enjoyed. Some years ago, NOVA had a great graphic on climate change — they showed a timeline going back to about 8,000 BC, with all the peaks and valleys of climate variability. THEN, they extended the line back to about 30,000 BC. Guess what ? In comparison, the line back to 8,000 BC looked FLAT. Temperatures were so much more variable before that time that agriculture would have been virtually impossible. A great visual.

    About 1000AD, the ice along the arctic coast melted so fast that the Inuit, who had dog sled technology, were able to follow whales which moved north and it only took the Inuit about 100-200 years to get from the west coast of Alaska clear to Greenland, replacing the more sedentary Dorset as they went. Then the ice closed in again, but the Inuit were established. At that same time, the Norsk were settling Iceland and Greenland, but had to abandon Greenland when the climate chilled down.

    The thing is, we don’t know what to expect, but we have built a very complex society based on an expectation of continuance of the norm. Living in the Far North requires one to adapt to the most extreme changes on a yearly basis. In the old days it meant adapt or die. Now it means adapt or fly away to somewhere more clement. But up here we realize that climate change may mean more extremes in every direction, not just ‘global warming’. THAT is what people should prepare for.

    And arctic ice ‘rebound’ is first-year ice, thin and easily melted, unlike the thick, dense multi-year ice which disappeared so dramatically in 2007. I think this melting is being driven by suboceanic magma flow myself.

  61. I’m not sure whether it is too late to comment on this post, but I thought this item spliced in nicely to the 1922 warming. It involves 1817 polar melting, and I found the quote, apparently written in 1817, at:

    http://www.john-daly.com/polar/arctic.htm

    “It will without doubt have come to your Lordship’s knowledge that a considerable change of climate, inexplicable at present to us, must have taken place in the Circumpolar Regions, by which the severity of the cold that has for centuries past enclosed the seas in the high northern latitudes in an impenetrable barrier of ice has been during the last two years, greatly abated.

    (This) affords ample proof that new sources of warmth have been opened and give us leave to hope that the Arctic Seas may at this time be more accessible than they have been for centuries past, and that discoveries may now be made in them not only interesting to the advancement of science but also to the future intercourse of mankind and the commerce of distant nations.”
    President of the Royal Society, London, to the Admiralty, 20th November, 1817

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  65. No offense but global warming has it coming and I have alot of anger at this threat while the big oil giants continue to get rich and we suffer constantly worrying about the future.Global warming is DEAD as well as the threatened results such as a ice free arctic,milder winters,hotter summers,& stronger hurricanes but not many blizzards.
    All that can go the way as the dinosaurs! Now bring on the ice age!

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