Well, it was a nice experiment, but I learned that the nested comments feature caused more trouble than it solved.
I was having trouble myself following some discussions, and if I’m having trouble, many other are as well. Another issue was mobile browsers, I had no idea how many people read WUWT on Iphones and such, and for them the issue of readability is even more important.
So I’m returning to linear format, with oldest comments at the top.
– Anthony
Graeme Rodaughan (19:49:18) :
“Roger: IMHO – The use of the Intranet/BLOGs is a transition that will prove to be as impactful on society as the invention and subsequent use of the printing press.”
So true. It reminds me of a popular parlor game a few years back, known as Bullsh_t! In that game, one person from Team A strived to tell a convincing tale to the opposing Team B, and team B voted either Truth, or BS about the told tale. Then the other team had a turn. A different person told a new tale in each turn. Teams kept score by how often they guessed Truth or BS correctly. It was hilarious, madcap fun.
As I see it, the similarity to blogs is that the team judging the Truth or BS of the told tale is of unknown size and location and experience and each may remain anonymous while participating. It requires the one declaiming his/her tale to stay very close to the facts, employ good logic and argumentation, and remain within his/her sphere of experience. BS is rather easily detected (and frequently declared) around here.
Thank you to Anthony for making WUWT an intriguing, informative, and fun place to participate. I declare Truth to that!
I prefer the nested comments. You should go back to them because it is easier to see who replied to whom.
ribbet!
Did not!
Did too!
Thank you. This I can manage 🙂
Threads I can do without.
I have to admit, though, post numbering would be a swell thing.
I even felt myself wanting to make short pithy comments.
Release your pith, young apprentice . . .
Hello Anthony,
I read most days, some people have a lot to say, there’s probably a lot more of us who are just trying to find out what’s going on.
Great site, keep up the good work!
DC
Yippee!
made my day…….
The problem with nested comments on this type of blog is that it encourages people to go off topic, which dilutes the value of the comments.
Post numbering please.
REPLY: Can’t, wordpress.com free hosting doesn’t allow it in this theme. – Anthony
I rather liked it, but the point of going off topic is a good one.
This blog and comments are so voluminous that it really can’t take much “off-topic-going”. I can’t keep up.
Darn, it’s interesting, though!
You realize that you and many of the posters here are changing the world, right?
This is democratizing science. Not subjecting it to a vote, of course, just making rather sophisticated science available to ANYONE who wants to look at and try to understand it. Plus, this format provides a helpful context and resource for lay-folk to get their brain around things.
20 years ago, there’d have been about 100 people somewhat familiar with this stuff. Now there are thousands who are familiar, and probably 10’s of thousands who are conversant and possibly hundreds of thousands aware that this resource and others are here and doing something.
This is powerful.
Groklaw (www.groklaw.net) had a feature that allowed the users to post in a nested fashion but would allow the reader to sort the comments in various ways for display. The s/w used may be unique to the site, but it’s worth a look for functionality.
Fred Gams (22:43:48) :
Nothing worth doing is easy. It’s an art. Once learnt learned and mastered it’s a skill you hope will never part.
Not sure if all these tags work here but I’m just having a little fun.
Hmm strike should work
learnt. On some you can just use, and doesn’t work. Done without the gaps of course.
You can’t use the lesser greater sign even with a space so the last message should be “s” wont work for strike and “sub” doesn’t work. Ok I’ve finished fooling around.
wattsupwiththat (09:05:30) :
Fair enough. Do you mind if I use this thread to test some other things?
Perhaps some others would like to also. I’m thinking that some may be not comfortable trying to format their replies in an active thread. Maybe It could be a kind of “How to?” for WUWT.
I agree that the quality of comments degrades with nested comments, although I do prefer to see newest comments at the top, but it’s not a big deal. My favorite blog is the type that has a forum discussion attached to articles, but that’s much more involved.
Why not make a WAP version of the site?
These guys do a great job on their site:
http://wap.crackberry.com/crackberry-blogs.php
Maybe someone can help you out with this?
I’m with those who prefer the list-in-order over the nested.
I would suggest to those who request post numbering that the time of posting is listed with each post (after the authors name) and on busy threads it’s an easy and convenient reference for the post to which you are writing your response. For including the text from the original post (on PC’s rather than hand-helds) highlighting and the old Microsoft standards of CTRL-C and CTRL-V for copy and paste can save a lot of typing time. I dont know what the corresponding controls would be for Mac or Linux users.
Whew!
Thanks…..
ps – does wordpress offer post numbering?
Me too Anthony; it was worth a try. I haunt another rorum that is nested; and needs to be; but yours does not.
Yes it is a bit of a pain to read something, and then write a response, only to find it posts 30 messeges after the one that triggered it. Well so then I get to read all the other things people have added in the interim.
I try to form a linkage with my “”” blah balh blah “”” cut and paste; to establish the reference. A lot of folks don’t use any punctuation to identify who said what, and it confuses the hell out of me.
But I think the flat format suits your site best.
And some interesting topics you have dug up for us lately Anthony.
George
Hmm, Speaking of testing, I wonder if this will work for greater than symbols: “>”
Ah yes, good. For Greater Than, use ampersand immediately followed by the letters ‘gt’ and then a semi-colon. ie: &-gt; (ignore the ‘-‘). For Less Than, use ‘lt’ instead of ‘gt’.
It’s a very (very) minor point, but if you ever want to write out the tags (say you’re explaining to someone how they work) then you can by using the &-gt; and &-lt; format. For example if I write you don’t see the tag, but I can write <strong> and it appears in the text, and has no effect. </strong> Such are the joys of HTML.