A guest post by: Russ Steele from NCWatch
We can only hope the most people in the US are shopping on Black Friday and not watching the Oprah Winfrey Show today. Al Gore has brought his global warming propaganda machine to share with Oprah. You can find the details on Oprah’s web page. Here are some of the topics that Gore is pushing:
Classic Gore:
“Some of the leading scientists are now saying we may have as little as 10 years before we cross a kind of point-of-no-return, beyond which it’s much more difficult to save the habitability of the planet in the future,” Gore says.
Yes, but Al you have been saying that for over ten years and we are still here. And in the last ten years the global temperatures stopped rising and are now in decline.
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Really Al, show me where the temperatures are beyond natural fluctuations:
Gore agrees that the planet’s temperature has indeed experienced up and down cycles, but he says the current up cycle is too extreme. “It’s way off the charts compared to what those natural fluctuations are,” he says.
Here is look at long term temperatures
One word of caution, these are USHCN numbers, which [have been] adjusted. Past temperatures are going down and the more recent going up.
Going, going Gored:
No place is immune to global warming, Gore says. “Of the thousand largest glaciers on every continent, 997 of them are receding,” he says. “And it’s not seasonal.”
Glaciers have been retreating long before CO2 was problem. (Graphic from Climate Skeptic) Now we learn that the glaciers have stopped retreating and are expanding:
DailyTech has previously reported on the growth in Alaskan glaciers, reversing a 250-year trend of loss. Some glaciers in Canada, California, and New Zealand are also growing, as the result of both colder temperatures and increased snowfall.
Al needs to take a second look at the North Pole:
“The North Pole is melting.”
Here is comparison of the ice in November 1980 and 2008. Do you see some major differences, like the “North Pole is melting.” (Note: Earlier photos do not show snow coverage) Details at Cryosphere Today
Katrina again:
“Temperature increases are taking place all over the world, including in the oceans. Gore warns that when the oceans get warmer, storms get stronger. In August 2005, millions of Americans were left homeless by Hurricane Katrina, one of the most powerful hurricanes in recent history. Gore says people should expect more Category 4 and 5 hurricanes if the ocean waters continue to warm.”
Looks like a decline in cyclone energy to me, not an increase.
Please let Oprah know that you expected more from someone of her intelligence and veracity here.
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I sent email to the Oprah show asking that she have Anthony and Steve McIntyre on to help enlighten people on the other side of the climate debate.
Probably just what they both need, right? LOL
JimB
Michael Ronayne (15:02:56) :
This week, the Politico ran a tongue-in-cheek story on The Gore Effect:
Tracking ‘The Gore Effect’
We’ve seen another major example of this “Effect.” There were millions
of viewers, much less the small audience, snowed by Nuncio Gore and
“O.” I’d assert that the snow “stuck,” too. A rather chilling commentary
on the IQ’s as emhasized by Bruce Cobb.
Al Gore IS a nut. Yes!
REPLY: Ah Danny breaks his self imposed exile less than 24 hours later. Such a display of credibility. – Anthony
Fred (07:35:23) :
Here is comparison of the ice in November 1980 and 2008
This is some kind of joke, right? Comparing wintertime ice extent?
Fred, I don’t see the problem. Both datasets are from the same month in different years, therefore they are legitimately comparable. Why do you see a problem with this?
Michael Ronayne (15:02:56) :
I’m hoping a nor’easter comes up the coast, dumps a foot or more of snow on DC the day _before_ the inauguration, then pulls down cP (Continental Polar) air on Inauguration day with 20-30 mph winds.
Given the longterm forecast this year, it has a better chance of happening this year than there was for the last several. (I do recall one cold day when the marching bands didn’t play because of the risk of instruments breaking.)
Steve Keohane,
You got me with that link.
Since this is a humor thread, I’m gonna add it to my other Al Gore/globaloney links:
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Enjoy!
Hmm…so citing some fringe sites that cherry pick their information to support their head in the sand mentality is being responsible? I expected more from someone of your intelligence and veracity here.
REPLY: Yet you still hide behind a fabricated name, so please don’t lecture about veracity. – Anthony
So by all means, let’s continue to pollute away since this blogger has now debunked Al Gore and the leading scientists of the world. Do I see a sign for the Sarah Palin fan club? Oh yes, there it is.
REPLY: Such an emotional response. – Anthony
vegasnv,
I’ve been reading Russ Steele’s blog for a long time.
It’s hardly a fringe site like RealClimate, Tamino or Eli Rabett.
Check it out; get educated.
And it’s free.
Why is it wrong to be concerned with the environment?
REPLY: Not wrong at all, see my about page. But it is wrong to solve a problem by investing trillions that seems unsupported by current data.
No emotion. I just call it the way that I see it. I do not see you getting a Pulitzer Prize. The sad thing is that people like Sarah Palin will really believe this because they want to hear this. Real research points to the sad truth that global warming is here.
REPLY: No I’m sure you are being emotional, why else would you mention Ms. Palin and say there’s “no pulitzer prize”? Neither of those are relevant or mentioned. Nobody’s gunning for any prizes. I think you are just angry because you don’t like the article and the contents.
Smokey.
Thanks for the complement. We try to stick to the facts.
artpage1,
We are all concerned about the environment, Anthony drives and electric car, and I built a highly energy efficient solar home. We used the best science available to build these environmentally friendly devices into our lives. If we used flawed sciences then, we might being doing more harm than good. Now we find that Al Gore is using flawed science that does not hold up under a reality check, is he doing more harm than good. I think so. When people find out they are duped they just quit listening to Al’s message of doom and gloom. A recent international poll of 12,000 citizens in 11 countries, including: Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Malaysia, Mexico, the United Kingdom and the United States found that:
• Only 47 per cent, said they were prepared to make personal lifestyle changes to reduce carbon emissions, down from 58 per cent last year.
• Only 37 per cent said they were willing to spend “extra time” on the effort, an eight-point drop.
• Only 20 per cent – said they’d spend extra money to reduce climate change, down eight percent from a year ago.
As you can see catastrophic climate change fatigue has set in and the number of people listening is declining year by year. By using distorted data and twisting the facts Al Gore is doing more harm than good. Thing about the good that could be done, if we were not trying to solve a non-existing problem of AGW. How may huts could we light with solar panels, how many clean water wells could we drill, how many schools could we build with the trillions it will cost to lower the global temperature by a mere fraction.
Catherine,
You write: Real research points to the sad truth that global warming is here.
Perhaps you can point to that research with a link to the “real research.” Let us examine the facts and see if they hold up. Much of what Al Gore has presented as real science has been debunked. However, please be aware that computer models are not research, they are manifestation of the computer programers desire to support his own perception of a warming world.
Russ S — However, please be aware that computer models are not research, they are manifestation of the computer programers desire to support his own perception of a warming world.
Not exactly. These programs are designed to model the effects of CO2, so it shouldn’t surprise anyone that they spit out answers suggesting CO2 is the problem.
Why a Nobel Peace Prize for Climate?- which is a scientific subject . Perhaps a Nobel Literary Prize will be awarded for someone contesting Einstein’s Theory of Relativity .
In fact I don’t belive Einstein was awarded a Nobel Prize for his
Theory of Relativity.
P.S. I am begining to belive that the people that award Nobel Peace Prizes are a pretty stupid lot .
It was the Nobel Beauty Prize.
When you’re hot, you’re hot.
Catherine where is this evidence you speak of, all I know is that Spencer’s NASA Aqua satellite team can’t find a feedback or enhancement to co2 and can’t find a hot spot 10 Klms up in the troposphere at the tropics.
This is using the latest technology, also the temp rise over the last 100+years of .6c can be easily accommodated by the recovery from the little ice age ( L.I.A.)
How so, well if you google LIA and Temp you will find that most sites attribute a temp drop of 1c+ to the 500 years between 1350 to 1850.
The Ipcc I think agrees with this number and attributes a .3c rise to increased solar radiation so a .6c overall increase is hardly unusual.
Then add in a higher level of warm phase PDOs in the last 30 years with more
el ninos as well and that extra .6c looks to be very well covered indeed, perhaps it’s surprising it hasn’t been higher.
Oh yes and it’s all nature’s work as well.
“I am begining to belive that the people that award Nobel Peace Prizes are a pretty stupid lot .”
Well, I see the “Peace” Prize as a political tool and they’re using it in most cases to further agendas.
Martti Ahtisaari – a “Bilderberger” (since 1994 and while being the President of Finland) – received his prize for his part in breaking up Yugoslavia.
And I’m not saying evil things didn’t happen there – I just believe we’re not being told the whole truth as to what really happened – and – most inportantly – as to how it all got started.
Now this “man of peace” is using his authority for lobbying for NATO and trying to get Finland to join this “organization of peace” – and in which he failed while still being the president.
Funny really – if it all just wasn’t so serious…
“Catherine (19:11:41) :
So by all means, let’s continue to pollute away since this blogger has now debunked Al Gore and the leading scientists of the world. Do I see a sign for the Sarah Palin fan club? Oh yes, there it is.”
Methinks you make quantum leaps that defy any and all logic.
Nowhere have I read that people who don’t believe in man-made climate change wish to “pollute away”. But if the very heart of a theory, which is exactly what it is, theory, is that C02 is the “pollutant” in question, and the science shows that this theory is not supported by the facts, then spending trillions of dollars on a NON-problem is waste of mammoth proportions.
And the Sarah Palin fan club nonsense is just that.
How IS life in the echo chamber?
JimB
In London, there is an area called Kensington Gore. I am not a conspiracy theorist but the address for the Albert Hall is…
Royal Albert Hall, Kensington Gore, London SW7 2AP.
A little judicious pruning produces ‘Al Gore’
Must be as relevant as Gore/Hansen’s climate tipping point predictions/uneducated guesses?
Kensington Gore is also the site of the home of the Royal Institute of Navigation, by the way
I think we should stop all the personal attacks on Mr Gore, including the rather pointless posts about his name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
On “…life in the echo chamber…”
Well, I used to be an “Echo-Warrior”, too 😉 – and I must say “life” in that bubble-like “chamber” was “exciting” in some weird ways…
Phil M:
Al Gore is just as much of a public figure as George W. Bush. Is your position that everyone should also stop criticizing GWB?
When Gore agrees to defend his inconvenient ‘truths’ in a genuine, moderated debate held in a neutral venue, then I promise to discuss the science instead of making fun of him.
It’s ad hominem when it’s attacking the individual instead of the individual’s argument. But as we can see, Gore refuses to defend his runaway global warming argument.