Surfacestations.org volunteer Gary Boden writes in with this contribution:
I’ve attached a Google Earth KML file for all of the USHCN stations with the CRN ratings you assigned as color-coded symbols. Colors match the Excel spreadsheet scheme (CRN-1 = blue, CRN-2 = green, CRN-3 = yellow, CRN-4 = orange, CRN-5 = red) and closed stations with no rating = white. All unsurveyed stations are marked by a symbol (question mark in a circle). A click on the icon shows the USHCN number and name of the station. As far as I can tell it represents the data correctly, but you might check a few
stations.
My sincere thanks to Gary for this effort, it will make finding the unsurveyed stations easier.
You can download the Google Earth KML file here.
Along the lines of the surfacestations project, the Fall 2008 NOAA Cooperative Observer Newsletter has been published. (PDF) And it is chockfull of station and observer photos. Perhaps someone can take a moment to cross check and see if any of the featured stations are USHCN?
Sorry for all the colored dots lately.
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Crichton believed that there was AGW. However, he felt that the AGW component was far smaller than touted by the climate hysterics so pervasive in politics and the press. He also felt that there were far more important world problems requiring science and expenditure than massive efforts focused to stop the anthropic component of any putative warming cycle. He correctly characterized the environmental movement as a religion and lamented the lack of an objective scientific approach to deal with problems like pollution, etc.
Pierre,
Great prediction!
The Values updated this morning:
Nov 6:
2008: 9,384,688
2004: 9,362,500
Hey Anthony, it’s been a while.
In response to Thomas L’s question (second comment), I’m thinking that maybe it’s time to run OpenTemp on the best stations again. It’s been almost a year and many more stations have now been surveyed.
I would appreciate it if you could provide me with a list of the best stations. That is, those that have a CRN rating of 1 or 2 and are in appropriate rural locations. I could run the analysis, compare to GISTEMP for the USA48, provide my code, etc.
It would be interesting to see how GISTEMP compares to historical climate based on the best stations (for the USA48). Your readers might be interested. Would you consider posting the results? I’m not even looking for a link or anything — I’m just offering to help.
Good luck finding surface stations in South Dakota right now! 4 feet of snow in the black hills!
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gudBnWr4taA9LEMlTo1PJ2kLFvKQD94A499G3
Darned global warming!
Anna,
Fairly mild criticism, compared to some of the nastiness coming from the greens. Man, they hated him! It’s really pretty interesting that the left doesn’t have enough to talk about (what with the rise of the new Celtic messiah – btw, is O’Bama really Irish?) without smearing the reputation of Crichton. It says a lot about the man’s (Crichton’s) effectiveness.
What do the CRN-1 and CRN-2 stations show for historical temperature trend (without manipulation of the data, just simple averages)? How does that compare to Hansen’s results? THAT information is the seller. Yes, the dots show how bad much of the network is, but in the end people want to know what the best situated/maintained stations’ average trend shows for historical temperature, compared to what Hansen says. Has anyone compiled this?
Evan and Anna,
Evan, Thanks for the applause – It was written tongue in cheek. The only statements there that are totally inaccurate are the “myth of UHI” and just those five (true) statements as being proof of AGW. I think I wanted to show how easily someone can be convinced of something given just a few isolated facts.
Anna, I appreciate your attempt to correct some bad thinking, but I knew it was lousy logic when I wrote it. Sorry about the bad humor!
Mike
Ric,
Whoops sorry Anna, it was Ric who wrote the piece “correcting” my pontifications. I was just trying to have a bit of fun….Let me get my second cup of coffee…Teach me to type in an early morning haze!
MJB
Did I notice that sea ice extent is now at an all-time-high for the years 2002 to 2008 for this time of year?
Ric Werne:
Revised Nov 6 Figures:
2008: 9,384,688 sq km
2004: 9,362,500 sq km
So now it’s ahead by 0,25 %.
Ric Werme,
Nov 6, 2008 now at 9384688.
Now it looks like the most in at least seven years for Nov. 6.
Despite recent coverage in this blog, the 4 out-of-compliance temp. stations
in Orange County, California, are not included on the map. All would be
in the “way out of compliance” category.
The recent mortgage meltdown was caused in part by incorrect application of
mathematics. The line went line ‘If we assume a Gaussian distribution of
events…’ but that was never true because many people were deadbeats and
were given mortgages they NEVER could repay. A skewed, non-random sample
was used to construct models for securitization pools. It all collapsed because
of an invalid mathematical assumption.
This map indicates the same sort of error applies to pro-AGW arguments, at
least in the US. No conclusions can be draw from a pool of stations that has
obvious geographic and thermal skew. The selection bias overwhelms the
signal.
RE: Bill P (09:49:45) : Anna
Sorry for the mis-attribution. Should be addressed to Clare.
DocWat (16:18:55) :
I tried to survey OLATHE 3E station in Kansas but could not find it. Instead there was a relatively new (5 year old) sub division where it was supposed to be. I found the manager’s name in the white pages and left a message 2 weeks ago but my call has never been returned. I even knocked on his door but no one was home. He lives in a farm home surrounded by new sub divisions about a mile away from the original GPS coordinates. I imagine he once owned that land and the station has either been moved to his farmstead or decommissioned.
Would it be possible to Google Earth the un-surveyed stations to make them eaiser to find? I am new to the GE tool and do not have the skills to do it myself on a large scale. But, I have mapped two other near by stations that I am now more motivated to survey. In fact, I plan to do one this afternoon and the other next week weather permitting.
Thanks for the effort Gary Boden. It is greatly appreciated.
Anthony,
If I understand correctly, GISS adjust temperature anomiles for stations by using an average of surrounding stations alogorithm. If this is the case, given the amount of CRN-4 and CRN-5 stations, would this mean that the datasets would have been over adjusted on the CRN-1 and CRN-2 stations and the temperature trends are biased towards warming?
Just wanting to check out the theory for sanity reasons.
OT – a most peculiar summary of a new study on ENN:
http://www.enn.com/top_stories/article/38598
what does it mean?
“A few UK scientists have done a smart thing; they’ve combined the proposals of G8 policymakers for combating climate change with actual data on the status of play in the carbon cycle. The resulting study (pdf) is interesting not only because of this highly useful approach but also because it focuses on atmospheric carbon dioxide and its impact on the environment in the far future.
If anything is beyond doubt, it is that making cuts in greenhouse gases won’t be any good if the longer term problem of atmospheric carbon dioxide gets ignored. Atmospheric carbon dioxide threatens to become a massive problem that will catch up with us at a speed way more dangerous than the man made carbon dioxide emission problems we’re facing at the moment, the scientists write in their study, published in the Environmental Research Letters”
I get sick to my stomach whenever I hear “combating climate change” and similar permutations without bothering to define climate change – the convolution above is the kind of summary that will be picked up by MSM…
the real issue seems to be the residence time of CO2 in the atmosphere – time to review that again…
Never mind Gary. I just re-opened Google Earth and there are now little questions marks exactly where I had pin pointed the un-surveyed stations. The first time I loaded the data all I saw were the color coded teardrop baloons.
I guess that demonstrates my unfamiliarity with the tool.
Thanks again!
Anthony, I suggest you remove the old KML file link on the main page of the surfacestations.org website or replace it with this new one.
DocWat (16:18:55) :
Dan McCune (11:38:59) :
I think the Medicine Lodge one is still there, but the data is not used. I’m in the process of doing the Anthony location, but due to previous non-related difficulty I am not getting cooperation from the “cooperator”, and the thing is in his back yard under a tree next to his garage with a dog chained to it intermittently. Could be a source of CHI (canine effect).
I too, am unfamiliar with the process, and on my WUWT Labor Day pilgrimage to Independence erroneously photographed a USGS river guaging system. :<{ It was over 1/2 mile from the GE bubble. Pretty country for KS. Nice pictures! The one I need to get is about 1/2 mile north of town on the east side at the water pumping station. Don’t know when I’ll return, it’s 120 miles away. When my wife was informed I wasted our time she developed WHI (wife effect). The hot dog lunch over an open fire didn’t impress either.
Anthony, I don’t know if you could post really current updates at ss.o, otherwise, you folks let me know which you plan to do. I’m planning on taking the upper route (north of I70) through Oberlin, Norton, St. Francis etc. at Christmas when I have to visit the Outlaws in SW Nebraska.
I hope a vintage Garmin GPS 12 is accurate enough for everybody.
OT, but Hansen strikes again.
http://www.physorg.com/news145286037.html
Apologies if this has already been posted…
OT
Has anyone noteced that the Arctic sea ice is now greater than any time in recorded history (well, since 2002 anyway)? Good think you all voted for Obama; he has saved us from AGW.
Are we about to have a new Arctic ice extent record? http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/AMSRE_Sea_Ice_Extent.png
Meanwhile the Antarctic is setting its own http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.365.south.jpg
Tim Clark:
Ref: Wife Heat island Effect
Hmmmn. 120 mile side trip @ur momisugly ~60 mph in mid-KS = 2 hrs out, 2 hours back.
I can waste (er, use) 4 hours going to the hardware store on most any Saturday morning.
Recommendation: tell her you went to the hardware store, but “didn’t find anything interesting, and came back home without spending anything.” End of wife heat island effect. Temporarily, at least. 8<)
I’ll spring for the gas at 65.00/barrel.
Robt
If you flip the color of the dots, it looks a lot like a political map. It is interesting that in addition to voting primarily on the left, people in Urban areas also can’t properly measure temperature.
I live near the station in Norwich NY, Google Earth shows it at a old loop in the Chenago river in the water. I guess some of the coordinates are wrong.