Ice Reality Check: Arctic Ice Now 31.3% Over Last Year, plus Scientists Counter Latest Arctic 'Record' Warmth Claims as 'Pseudoscience'

Sea Ice Extent

10/17/2007 5,663,125 square kilometers

10/17/2008 7,436,406 square kilometers

Δice = 1,773,281 sqkm or 31.3% more than last year

Source data here: http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/plot.csv (Excel file)

UPDATE 10/22: The trend has entered the point where last year’s recovery started to get closer to previous years, and the Δice is now about 21%

You’ve probably heard by now how this new story circulating this week claims “record warmth” and that we are in the peak time of melting. Meanwhile, “back at the ranch”, sea ice extent continues a steady upward climb as shown above.

Scientists Counter Latest Arctic ‘Record’ Warmth Claims as ‘Pseudoscience’ – Comprehensive Arctic Data Round Up – October 17, 2008

Claim: Newspaper article claims Arctic Temps Peak in November – Claims Arctic offers ‘early warning signs’ – McClatchy Newspapers – October 16, 2008

Excerpt: Temperatures in the Arctic last fall hit an all-time high – more than 9 degrees Fahrenheit (5 degrees Centigrade) above normal – and remain almost as high this year, an international team of scientists reported Thursday. “The year 2007 was the warmest year on record in the Arctic,” said Jackie Richter-Menge, a climate expert at the Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory in Hanover, N.H, and editor of the latest annual Arctic Report Card. “These are dynamic and dramatic times in the Arctic,” she said. “The outlook isn’t good.” Arctic temperatures naturally peak in October and November, after sea ice shrinks during the summer. […]  Scientists say these changes in the Arctic are early warning signs of what may be coming for the rest of the world’s climate.

Arctic Reality Check: Why isn’t the cooling Antarctic considered ‘an indicator of what might happen to the rest of the world?’

By Climate Scientist Dr. Ben Herman, past director of the Institute of Atmospheric Physics and former Head of the Department of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Arizona is a member of both the Institute for the Study of Planet Earth’s Executive Committee and the Committee on Global Change.

Herman Excerpt: First of all, the Arctic sea ice is at its minimum in September, not October or November as the scientists in the McClatchy article states. As Arctic ice experts, they certainly should have known this. Another point is that the Arctic temperatures do not “naturally peak in October or November”. They peak in mid August generally. Also the article states that since the world’s climates are interconnected, what happens in the Arctic may be an indicator of what will happen in the rest of the world. How about what happens in the Antarctic then? Since its ice area has been increasing, is this also an indicator of what might happen in the rest of the world?

See the full article: Vast majority of Antarctica has cooled over the past 50 years and ice coverage has grown to record levels

Reality Check # 2: ‘This is pseudoscience’ – By German scientist Ernst-Georg Beck, a biologist Rebuts Arctic Reports – October 17, 2008

Excerpt: The annual report issued by researchers at the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and other experts is the latest to paint a dire picture of the impact of climate change in the Arctic. […] The real averaged temperatures of the whole Arctic circle (70-90 N) can be found in the same data base used by NOAA (CRU, Phil Jones): The graph shows a strong Arctic warming during 1918 and 1960, stronger than today with a rise of about + 4°C up to 1938. Referencing only a rise since 1960 we got the illusion of a dramatic rise in modern times. Conclusion: The news item:” Arctic air temperatures climb to record levels” is selective science and wrong because the Arctic Ocean ( covering an area of more than 50% of the Arctic circle) has been left unconsidered. The NOAA study summarizes: „5°C record levels in temperature in autumn”, presents the averaged temperatures only on land stations and discusses melting sea ice as a cause! This is pseudoscience. In contrast the current Arctic warming mimics the 1920s-1940s event, as a recent study from the Ohio State University reveals. The scientists recognized from using weather station records, maps and photos from the past century that temperatures in Greenland had warmed in the 1920s at rates equivalent to the recent past.

See these articles:

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/grnlndice.htm

http://www.eike-klima-energie.eu/wcmsmimefiles/Arctic_102008e_824.pdf

Get the facts on Arctic ice conditions below:

Latest Arctic Info: Updated October 17, 2008

Update: Arctic sea ice now 28.7% higher than this date last year – still climbing – October 15, 2008

Excerpt: A difference of: 1,576,563 square kilometers, now in fairness, 2008 was a leap year, so to avoid that criticism, the value of 6,857,188 square kilometers can be used which is the 10/13/08 value, for a difference of 1,369,532 sq km. Still not too shabby at 24.9 %. The one day gain between 10/13/08 and 10/14/08 of 3.8% is also quite impressive. […]  Watch the red line as it progresses. So far we are back to above 2005 levels, and 28.7% (or 24.9% depending on how you want to look at it) ahead of last year at this time. That’s quite a jump, basically a 3x gain, since the minimum of 9% over 2007 set on September 16th. Read about that here. Go nature! There is no mention of this on the National Snow and Ice Data Center sea ice news webpage, which has been trumpeting every loss and low for the past two years…not a peep. You’d think this would be big news. Perhaps the embarrassment of not having an ice free north pole in 2008, which was sparked by press comments made by Dr. Mark Serreze there and speculation on their own website, has made them unresponsive in this case.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/15/arctic-sea-ice-now-287-higher-than-this-date-last-year-still-climbing

Alert: National Ice Center says satellites interpreting Arctic ice as open water! – By Andrew Revkin – NY Times Dot Earth Blog – September 6, 2008

Excerpt: And one of the groups focusing most closely on possible Arctic shipping lanes, the National Ice Center operated by the Navy and Commerce Department, says flatly that the satellites are misreading conditions in many spots and that there is too much ice in a critical spot along the Russian coast (highlighted in the smaller image above) to allow anything but ice-hardened ships to get through. In an e-mail message Wednesday, Sean R. Helfrich, a scientist at the ice center, said that ponds of meltwater pooling on sea ice could fool certain satellite-borne instruments into interpreting ice as open water, “suggesting areas that have substantial ice cover as being sea-ice free.” The highlighted area is probably still impassible ice, including large amounts of thick old floes, he said. I sent the note to an array of sea-ice experts, and many, including Mark Serreze at the National Snow and Ice Data Center, concurred.

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/confirmation-of-open-water-circling-north-pole/

National Weather Service: SEA ICE ADVISORY FOR ARCTIC WATERS AS WATER TEMPS DROP 8° IN 2008 – September 22, 2008

Excerpt: SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES ALONG THE ALASKA CHUKCHI AND BEAUFORT SEA COASTS ARE 2 TO 8 DEGREES CELSIUS COLDER THIS YEAR THAN AT THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR. […] SIGNIFICANT ICE WILL BEGIN DEVELOPING ALONG THE ALASKA COAST NORTH OF 70N WITHIN THE NEXT 10 TO 14 DAYS.

http://pafc.arh.noaa.gov/marfcst.php?fcst=FZAK80PAFC

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October 18, 2008 10:58 pm

[…] Watts has been watching the numbers, and after a record-low sea ice coverage in 2007, this year has been cooler, with more ice than […]

Jean Meeus
October 19, 2008 12:06 am

Gramfan wrote:
Just wondering if anyone else has seen this site:
http://cjunk.blogspot.com/2008/10/warmists-and-msm-retract-predictions.html
I can hardly believe that Hansen, Al Gore and the IPCC, who have always been so vociferous about AGW, all suddenly say that they exaggerated…

Jean Meeus
October 19, 2008 12:10 am

Gramfan wrote:
Just wondering if anyone else has seen this site:
http://cjunk.blogspot.com/2008/10/warmists-and-msm-retract-predictions.html
I can hardly believe that Hansen, Al Gore and the IPCC, who always were so vociferous about AGW, suddenly admit they exaggerated…!

dresi4
October 19, 2008 12:12 am

well, that red line is falling now. Increase of sea ice is very small now, compared to other days…

Pierre Gosselin
October 19, 2008 2:20 am

Watching SST, I see no EL NINO developing. To the contrary,
compare:
http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.8.18.2008.gif
to:
http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.10.16.2008.gif
Looks to me like the equatorial Pacific near South America is getting COOLER!
Should we be expecting another LA NINA event?

Kean Whelband
October 19, 2008 2:26 am

Looks like some reports are still highlighting summer melt.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/10/17/eaarctic117.xml
On the same page, there is an article on a report predicting Climate change will force refugees to move to Antarctica by 2030.
These must be some superbly well equipped refugees if they are going to survive unsupported in Antarctica.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/10/13/eaclimate113.xml

Pierre Gosselin
October 19, 2008 2:51 am

Steve Goddard,
Don’t hold your breath!
What is concluded in research centers and actually released to the press are often in direct opposition.
But thank God we have websites like Anthony’s who debunk these press releases using information and data the public STILL has access to.
Access, however, will be severely limited when the Obamanites and Gorites land in Washington. Reality is a terribly inconvenient and embarassing thing for them. Sea íce is expanding! Sea levels stagnating! Antarctica is cooling! EGADS!! Quick! Don’t let the public see this!
Expect climate information to be either severely restricted, or manipulated in the future. Don’t be surprised if you find yourself standing knee-deep in snow in Texas in 2012 while hearing on the radio the globe has never been hotter.
They’ve already rewritten Medieval history, at least have tried to. Does anyone believe they’ll simply stop there?

Allan M
October 19, 2008 3:06 am

Well you find engineers are now climate change experts. Try this one:
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2460107.0.Water_hazard_how_global_warming_could_sink_St_Andrews_Old_Course.php
This ‘professor’ is an accountant!

Mary Hinge
October 19, 2008 3:35 am

dresi4 (00:12:33) :
“…..Increase of sea ice is very small now, compared to other days…”
As you would expect now the ice pack is reaching more land. The previous rapid rate was no surprise considering the summers melt was the first recorded time there was clear water around the ice sheet. Once the ice sheet reached land it obviously can’t extend in that direction! For global sea ice anomolies check these graphs out. http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg
This is the third post with the same graphic and to be frank smacks of desperation in the quest for global warming. There really is no story here and, as I said before “Move along, nothing to see here”. There really isn’t!

JimB
October 19, 2008 3:49 am

Ted,
The link works fine. That’s a great article.
Jim

M White
October 19, 2008 3:57 am

For anyone interested in the weather with half an hour to spare
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00f68qv

Svend Erik Hendriksen
October 19, 2008 5:01 am

>>well, that red line is falling now. Increase of sea ice is very small now, compared to other days…<<
Don’t worry…the melting season ended midd september and next year beginning March we’ll have a new record.
Look at the illustration once more….all the newspapers talking about the next largest melting….no one mention we actually also had the next largest iceexpansion i March 2008, for a few days maybe the highest ever recorded
Best
Svend Hendriksen
Kangerlussuaq. Greenland

Burch Seymour
October 19, 2008 5:45 am

Pat Gris:
That one made my morning! LOL

Steven Goddard
October 19, 2008 6:02 am

Retired Engineer,
The slope of the ice gain will drop off in the next few days, simply because of the geography of the Arctic.
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_daily_extent.png
Growth of the ice pack will soon be constrained by the warm waters of the Atlantic on the east, and the Bering Strait on the west. It is too early in the year for much ice to form at lower latitudes, so we can expect the slope to follow the more gentle 2002-2006 path over the next few weeks.
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/AMSRE_Sea_Ice_Extent.png
A key thing to watch is the polar drift during the winter. That will largely determine how thick the ice is next spring.
http://psc.apl.washington.edu/northpole/gifs/DriftMap.gif

Polishbtard
October 19, 2008 6:14 am

Ted Annonson
It works fine, thanks.

Garrett
October 19, 2008 6:35 am

I would like to correct dresi4 in saying that the red line is not falling, merely leveling out and if you look at other years nearly all of them do that now just like most of them have a spike on June 1st.

October 19, 2008 6:40 am

Janama,
Thanks for the link

October 19, 2008 6:59 am

Mike Clark (12:42:04) : How do you counter or correct these kinds of lies and misleading stories? This is terrible!
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/an_open_letter_from_the_viscou_1.html is an Open Letter in Thinking American from Monckton to McCain – important IMHO.
Gramfan (15:42:20) : Just wondering if anyone else has seen this site:
http://cjunk.blogspot.com/2008/10/warmists-and-msm-retract-predictions.html
Apparently Gore,Hansen and Suzuki are saying they exaggerated.

This is astounding good news, if it is true, which I have no reason at this point to doubt… maybe Monckton’s medicinal letter is seeping through the body politic.
Austin, thanks for earlier link to Arctic sea ice. I’ve done an animation of last month’s buildup on a Baby Ice page, it’s a really good visual icon to help people get things in perspective: http://www.greenworldtrust.org.uk/Science/babyIce.htm

james griffin
October 19, 2008 7:14 am

The worrying thing about the cooling is that it is never mentioned…..if that isn’t bad enough they are still trying to tell us it is getting warmer!!!!!!
This follows the Twin Towers “collapsing” due to ignited kerosene and four commercial aircraft undoing the most sophisticated air defence system in the world by simply turning off their Transponders.
Given that this is a scientific site…..can anyone tell me is there is a machine that measures b.s.?
James,

Editor
October 19, 2008 7:20 am

Pete (19:49:17) :

John D. (18:16:43) :

“Interesting how so many put so much weight on anecdotes and observations made over such a short time period. Is this not just another example of people confusing weather with climate?”

I think we’re just having fun, because that’s what the other side was doing for so long when things were “going their way”.

There’s some fun involved, but there’s also the Pacific Decadal Oscillation entering a cool phase last year. When it shifted to a warm phase around 1979, there were several sudden climatic shifts, and it appears there are some now.
The cool summer in Anchorage and unmelted snow at the Juneau Icefields are likely PDO effects, and I’d expect the PDO flip to also have a sizable impact on the Arctic.

kim
October 19, 2008 8:00 am

Lucy (06:59:50) Are you sure that cj link isn’t a joke. I see there are no links to the stunning quotes from Hansen, Gore, and Suzuki.
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XQ
October 19, 2008 8:02 am

Off-topic, but Science News it at it again:
See
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/37590/title/Cooling_climate_%E2%80%98consensus%E2%80%99_of_1970s_never_was
and
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/37637/title/The_News_Climate
and
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/37758/title/Eggs,_Tea_and_Mr._IPCC
You can post comments under the articles.
These stories are very typical of the “new format” Science News. Maybe it’s just me, but seems like when it comes to AGW, they seem to have dropped all pretense of scientific or journalistic objectivity.

kim
October 19, 2008 8:02 am

Lucy, I hate to criticize, ‘cuz I think you are doing great work, but unverified ‘astounding’ quotes should be a good reason to doubt.
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kim
October 19, 2008 8:04 am

Now, Pachauri, he has publicly wondered if someone ‘got their sums wrong’. He is both an engineer and an economist, and I’ve hopes he may lead the herd out of this stampede before they go over the cliff.
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