Posted by John Goetz
Speculation abounds that the St Andrews golf course in Scotland will disappear by mid-century – a scant 42 years from now – due to global warming.
From theherald.co.uk.
Water hazard: how global warming could sink St Andrews Old Course
GRAEME SMITH
The world’s most famous golf course could crumble into the North Sea by the middle of this century, according to a climate change expert.
Professor Jan Bebbington, director of the St Andrews Sustainability Institute, visualises a town where locals remember with sorrow the last Open played on the Old Course, the home of golf.
She also foresees that Scotland will be a nation of car-sharing vegetarians and the declining population due to emigration will be offset by the allocation of 580,000 “climate change refugees”.
Does this mean we will never again see someone like David Duval whacking a golf ball against the side of a 17th hole pot bunker in futility?
UPDATE: Here is a Google Interactive map of St. Andrews Links, shown below. I assume the airport would fall victim to global warming also, though oddly there is no mention of it in the article.
Also, you can watch it “crumble into the sea” in real-time here with a choice of webcam views. Popcorn optional. – Anthony
Les Francis (03:16:27) :
That’s because they’re smart enough to not explore sites that have been washed away.
re: Lee Francis
Darwin did work on chalk in his garden
over 20 years or so the stones went underground
Earthworms turning the soil up all the time was responsible.
that’s why the artefacts are dopwn below
i assume
St.Andrews University is of course best known for its theology department.
Estuarine deposit. Longshore drift. Isostatic rebound. That’s just geography.
Factoid for the thread
The unique geologic features of a golf course so desired and copied by golfers are the results of melting glaciers. Scotland’s famous golf courses are built on terminal moraines left by the retreating glaciers.
Further proof that AGWers live in a wonderland of their own making. Do they know the difference between fact and fantasy any more? It would seem not. They seem to have reached their own “tipping point” of sanity.
Well .. it might be a little chilly on Everest even in the gw winter and the air is a little thin but .. Lots for sale, I can get ya great financing:P lol Ahd the view, its to die for:)
Further proof that AGWers live in a wonderland of their own making …
Bruce – It seems that the press headline, the post here and the thread are based on a single (parenthesised) sentence lifted from a 100-page collection of speculative essays about the possible state of Scotland in 2050. I am sure Professor Bebbington would be amused at the significance her little aside has assumed. Must have been a slow news day.
Lucy I have read a lot of Bernstein and Woodward. Booker and Monckton are no Bernstein and Woodward.
JP.
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Aviator,
Ar Ye daft man! Ye forgot about the kilts – what would a Scotsman be without kilts!
Mike
Robbie Burns said it best-
Wee, sleekit, cow’rin, tim’rous beastie,
O, what a panic’s in thy breastie!
Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
Wi’ bickering brattle!
I wad be laith to rin an’ chase thee,
Wi’ murd’ring pattle!
I’m truly sorry man’s dominion,
Has broken nature’s social union,
An’ justifies that ill opinion,
Which makes thee startle
At me, thy poor, earth-born companion,
An’ fellow-mortal!
I doubt na, whiles, but thou may thieve;
What then? poor beastie, thou maun live!
A daimen icker in a thrave
‘S a sma’ request;
I’ll get a blessin wi’ the lave,
An’ never miss’t!
Thy wee bit housie, too, in ruin!
It’s silly wa’s the win’s are strewin!
An’ naething, now, to big a new ane,
O’ foggage green!
An’ bleak December’s winds ensuin,
Baith snell an’ keen!
Thou saw the fields laid bare an’ waste,
An’ weary winter comin fast,
An’ cozie here, beneath the blast,
Thou thought to dwell-
Till crash! the cruel coulter past
Out thro’ thy cell.
That wee bit heap o’ leaves an’ stibble,
Has cost thee mony a weary nibble!
Now thou’s turn’d out, for a’ thy trouble,
But house or hald,
To thole the winter’s sleety dribble,
An’ cranreuch cauld!
But, Mousie, thou art no thy lane,
In proving foresight may be vain;
The best-laid schemes o’ mice an ‘men
Gang aft agley,
An’lea’e us nought but grief an’ pain,
For promis’d joy!
Still thou art blest, compar’d wi’ me
The present only toucheth thee:
But, Och! I backward cast my e’e.
On prospects drear!
An’ forward, tho’ I canna see,
I guess an’ fear!
Bruce – It seems that the press headline, the post here and the thread are based on a single (parenthesised) sentence lifted from a 100-page collection of speculative essays about the possible state of Scotland in 2050.
Yes, we know John. AGWer fairy tales, in other words. Only, instead of written for children they’re written for adults. As with children’s fairy tales they are chock full of hidden meaning, warnings, and lessons. Unfortunately, AGWer fairy tales are based on lies. Like I said, they live in their own wonderland. I guess they like it there.
A curious thing about Cape Cod:
Here’s a “before and after” of the “flexed bicep” for comparison.
1620 – http://www.capecodhistory.us/
2008 – http://simlab.uri.edu/cara/images/Cape-Cod-Map-w_Towns.gif
It’s keeping its muscle tone pretty well after 400 years. As you say, perhaps some forces at work replishing what’s routinely swept or blown away.
Oops. I misread this date.
The historical map above is Circa 1890. So comparison is only valid for a little over a century.
Offtopic: A British governmental report suggests a 1984-style society project. Derek Tipp with an interresting article link:
http://climatescience.blogspot.com/2008/10/big-brother-alive-and-well-in-green.html
The Register:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/26/carbon_spotchecks/
15 mph speed limit for cars, almost no meat, individual CO2 emission control, a fine when you leave the city, etc., for >100000 people in 15 new cities. Those who plan this should live there.
Patrick Henry : “..To thole the winter’s sleety dribble,
An’ cranreuch cauld!…”
Plenty of “sleety dribble” falling this winter in the Northern hemisphere this winter, no doubt. I had to look up “cranreuch”; it’s hoar frost or the “black ice” we get on winter roads; we’ll probably get a few patches of that as well, in due course.
Jan Bebbington was interviewed on national radio yesterday evening, sounded like a prediction to me.(essay starts page 26)
http://www.davidhumeinstitute.com/DHI%20Website/publications/hop/HOP%2079%20Reducing%20Carbon%20Emissions%20-%20the%20View%20from%202050.pdf
I like the bit about the “Glasgow diet” Glasgow is famous for various chocolate bars covered in batter and deep fried.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4103415.stm
I don’t see the scots taking to vegy Haggis
ot but has anyone seen this story?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/14/spider_invasion/
I’ve looked at the pictures online. It is a very pretty course.
The Britain that we knew in history is gone forever. Instead of being the home of the ‘few’; it is the home of surveillance cameras everywhere, more immigrants than natives and a PC political culture that is worthless. Churchill would turn over in his grave!
paul (09:21:45) : ot but has anyone seen this story?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/14/spider_invasion/
Yes, I saw this on the BBC news this morning. I can see why they showed it – I mean, why mention the harmless creatures such as green parakeets, which have also thrived in the milder winters, when they can show us black widow spiders (!!!!) – or some similar-sounding nasties – which are flourishing due to man’s carbon wickedness.
Well the problem is easily solved. the real cause for the decay of St Andrews, is that the golfers never replace their divots, so they just keep digging up the sod continuously.
Simply levy a fine on every player at every hole, if he doesn’t restore his divots, and that problem will fix itself.
And the water hazard shown will survive, if they look up “Water” in wikipedia, and then locate some of it to put in that sand hole; did somebody mention the North Sea; a likely source of “Water”, and fresh water too, when all that Greenland ice melts.
I predict that St Andrews will outlive both Al Gore, and James Hansen; not to mention the IPCC.
Here (south-eastern Norway) the *land* has risen ~40cm the last 100 years or so. Why? Because of ice melting! Actually it is the land bouncing back after the previous glaciation, so it isn’t because of any melting today.
Now they tell us that the land will sink/seal level will rise ….. because of ice melting.
The land at St Andrews is rising from post-glacial rebound by about 2 mms to 3 mms per year (25 mms equals 1 inch)
Sea level has been increasing at 2.4 mms per year according to the latest measurements from Topex 1.
So St. Andrews is probably safe.
The sea level gauges at Aberdeen Scotland, just up the road from St. Andrews have been increasing at 0.6 mm per year.
So, in about 1 hundred years, the sea level may have increased at St. Andrews by about 2 inches (hardly anything to worry about I’d say).
The warmers claim to have science on their side, but every time one looks into the actual science behind some particular claim, one finds the warmers have it completely backwards and do not even bother checking what the science actually says.
Considering that the Black Widow occurs naturally north to southern Alberta and Saskatchewan where winter temperatures are something like 20 degrees centigrade colder than in Britain I don’t really see the AGW angle.