Sun in deep slumber: 10.7 solar flux hits record low value

NRC's monitoring station

NRC Canada’s FTP site which logs the daily 10.7 centimeter (2800 megahertz) radio flux from the sun just reported what appears to be a new record low in the observed data.

64.2 at 1700 UTC

Source data is here

The Solar Radio Monitoring Program is operated jointly by the National Research Council and the Canadian Space Agency, the web page for their monitoring program is here.

The 10.7cm solar radio flux is an indicator of the sun’s activity. Here is a brief description of it from the National Geophysical Data Center:

The sun emits radio energy with a slowly varying intensity. This radio flux, which originates from atmospheric layers high in the sun’s chromosphere and low in its corona, changes gradually from day-to-day, in response to the number of spot groups on the disk. Radio intensity levels consist of emission from three sources: from the undisturbed solar surface, from developing active regions, and from short-lived enhancements above the daily level. Solar flux density at 2800 megaHertz has been recorded routinely by radio telescopes near Ottawa (February 14, 1947-May 31, 1991) and Penticton, British Columbia, since the first of June, 1991. Each day, levels are determined at local noon (1700 GMT at Ottawa and 2000 GMT at Penticton) and then corrected to within a few percent for factors such as antenna gain, atmospheric absorption, bursts in progress, and background sky temperature.

Solar Flux Image

Part of this has to due with the earth’s orbit and position relative to the sun in July, this from Australia’s IPS Radio and Space Services:

On July 18 1996, the observed value of the 10 cm solar flux dropped to a low of 64.9. In many books it is stated that the 10 cm solar flux can not go below a value of 67. For example, the formulae given in the June 1996 edition of the IPS Solar Geophysical Summary show 67.0 as the minimum value. So how can we get a value of 64.9?

The answer is quite interesting – it depends on the orbit of the earth! The earth’s orbit is not perfectly circular but is slightly elliptical. In July of each year we are a little further than average from the sun and so solar radiation, including the 10 cm flux, is very slightly weaker than average.

So the 10cm flux will tend to be lower in July than, for example, December when the earth is closer to the sun than its average value. The combination of the extra distance to the sun and the solar minimum conditions have acted to produce this very low flux value.

It is easy to correct for the earth-sun distance and, when this is done, a value of 67.0 is obtained. This is the text book value!

Values of the 10 cm flux are often given in two forms – first as directly observed values and secondly as values corrected for the earth-sun distance variation.

The last time that the observed 10cm flux was at a lower value was on July 26, 1964 when it stood at 64.8. The lowest value ever recored was on July 02, 1954 with a value of 64.4.

As we’ve seen from visiual cues and lack of sunpots recently, it is obvious that the sun is in a deep minimum. Expert forecasts that have called for the sun to be regularly active by now have been falsified by nature, and the question of the day is: how long before the sun becomes active again?

(h/t Basil)

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July 16, 2008 5:33 pm

[…] compared to putting the Sun to sleep! Anthony Watts has the story, Sun in deep slumber: 10.7 solar flux hits record low value. Maybe this CO2 stuff is just as dangerous as Al Gore and James Hansen swear it must […]

Leon Brozyna
July 16, 2008 5:41 pm

Jerker Andersson
Hathaway seems to be sticking with his moveable forecast for SC24. Here’s the compare-and-contrast graphic:
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/SOLAR_HATHAWAY.jpg

David
July 16, 2008 5:41 pm

…there has been a small but statistically-significant increase in the overall extent of Antarctic sea ice. However, there are strong geographical variations at a regional scale. Sea ice cover has declined substantially in the seas to the west of the Antarctic Peninsula while it has increased in other parts of the Antarctic.
From,
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk//bas_research/our_views/climate_change.php – (an interesting read)
I am guessing the silence here about the “massive ice loss” is due to absence of said “ice loss”.

Lloyd Graves
July 16, 2008 6:02 pm

SS24
Please read this from Icecap especially note the piece from Richard Courtney who chaired the plenary session in Bonn in 1997 for the IPCC.
Wilkins Back in the News
By Joseph D’Aleo, CCM, Fellow, AMS
In another in an endless series of half the story articles, Livescience staff reported on the further fracturing of the Wilkins Ice sheet. “A vast shelf of ice in Antarctica is hanging on to the continent by a thread and is not expected to survive, scientists announced today. The entire Wilkins shelf, before the recent breakups, covered about 6,180 square miles (16,000 square kilometers – about the size of Northern Ireland).” (It should be noted the current total Antarctic ice extent is 13,000,000 square kilometers making Wilkins merely 0.1% of the total) and the ice is at a record extent for this time of year and appears headed to challenge or exceed last year’s record. It is mid-winter there now with 2 months more of ice growth.
See larger image
“Wilkins Ice Shelf is the most recent in a long, and growing, list of ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula that are responding to the rapid warming that has occurred in this area over the last fifty years,” said David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey. “Current events are showing that we were being too conservative when we made the prediction in the early 1990s that Wilkins Ice Shelf would be lost within thirty years – the truth is it is going more quickly than we guessed.” This latest stage of the breakup occurred during the Southern Hemisphere’s winter, when atmospheric temperatures are at their lowest. One idea is that warmer water from the Southern Ocean is reaching the underside of the ice shelf and thinning it rapidly from underneath.
Richard Courtney, an expert peer reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change who in November 1997 chaired the Plenary Session of the Climate Conference in Bonn responded “The suggested “idea” really is clutching at straws. Melting is induced by heat and fracture is induced by stress. The fractures are happening in winter. And winter is the season when temperatures are at their lowest and when ice growth is greatest. Unless there is direct evidence of the ice thinning then there is no reason to introduce any suggestion that the fracture of the ice bridge is related to higher temperatures. Indeed, the fact that the fractures are happening in the winter implies that the reverse is true: i.e. the most probable explanation is that large ice growth is providing stress to the ice bridge with resulting stress fractures of the bridge.”
By the way, UAH MSU showed among the past 30 Junes, June 2008 was the third coldest south of the Antarctic Circle. The Antarctic continent saw its third coldest June in 30 years, with temperatures averaging -1.53C cooler than the seasonal norm. Portions of Anarctica south of Australia were as much as 5.5 C (9.9 degrees Fahrenheit) colder than seasonal norms for the first month of winter. The low yesterday at the South Pole Amundsen Scott AFB was -95F.

July 16, 2008 6:07 pm

JimA: mine is sitting at 71 today. As Hathaway, I change mine all the time
🙂 depending on what the average polar field is for the last several years.

Tom in Florida
July 16, 2008 6:12 pm

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/s_plot.html
Another graph with the base period of 1979-2000. Will someone PLEEEEEASE
explain the facination with this time period? I understand 1979 as a starting point due to satellites but what happened after 2000? Did they fall out of orbit? Did NASA defund the project? Did the science teams all die? I do not understand why, at this point in time, the average is taken from 1979 – 2007.

July 16, 2008 6:14 pm

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July 16, 2008 6:18 pm

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Bill Illis
July 16, 2008 6:23 pm

By the way the global warmers are glorifying the Wilkin’s ice shelf break-up, you’d think there has never been an iceberg (broken-off pieces of ice shelves of course) in the southern oceans ever before.

Johnnyb
July 16, 2008 6:25 pm

SS24, Google Earth is an awesome thing. You can get plug-ins for it that will show you real time ice cover, clouds, local temperature and SSTs. Really awesome and amazing stuff from a wide variety of scientific organizations. I highly recommend that you download Google Earth and a variety of Weather plug ins before you make sweeping statements of Ice Cap loss. It’s free and in the future you can be more certain about the accuracy of your statements, that and you can monitor global warming in real time. Enjoy!

SS24
July 16, 2008 6:27 pm

Positive Anomalies in Surface Temperature in South Pole, sometimes around +20ºC in the last weeks:
http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/map/images/fnl/sfctmpmer_01a_30frames.fnl.anim.html

Dave22
July 16, 2008 6:31 pm

Anything that deviates from the norm and has Solar scientists scratching their heads makes precition re: the next solar Cycle pointless. I think we should be watching and learning instead of predicting at this point.

crosspatch
July 16, 2008 6:56 pm

“And now La Nina is over and the party is over too. Sorry folks.
Its strange the silence here about the massive ice cover lost in south hemisphere in the last weeks”
Yeah, ENSO has pretty much returned to “neutral” but there is a more important change. When the PDO is in “warm phase”, the equatorial pacific tends to alternate between el nino and neutral with few la nina phases. When PDO is cold (like now), the equatorial Pacific tends tends to alternate between la nina and neutral. So looking at the current PDO … it seems more likely that we will return to another la nina than go into an el nino.
And yeah, Southern Hemisphere has returned to about average after having been +100,000 km. So in other words … there is no “massive loss of ice” so much as a loss of the substantially above normal ice and a return to average conditions. In yet other words … no massive reason to fear any significant reduction of Southern Hemisphere ice.

July 16, 2008 7:00 pm

I wonder if there are bets on solar cycle 24 in Las Vegas?

Editor
July 16, 2008 7:06 pm

SS24 (16:58:55) :
“Its strange the silence here about the massive ice cover lost in south hemisphere in the last weeks. And it’s winter in South hemisphere.”
I noticed it only yesterday when I was putting together a list of interesting links.
Ice cover hasn’t been lost – it is increasing, see http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/daily.html What has been lost is the big anomaly, so ice has been forming more slowly than it has on average. I’m not sure what it all means, my first guess is that storminess has broken up some of the ice cover, but I don’t pay too much attention to it.
Frankly, I’m not too inclined to hunt down further information since you haven’t even bothered to check the standard sources.
“If we get an El Nino next year I expect skeptics and deniers quickly forget monthly data from the RSS and UAH”
Some will, some will use the data to look for new correlations or look for what’s behind the data. An El Nino would be nice, it would be interesting to see how they differ from El Ninos in positive PDO phases.

Brute
July 16, 2008 7:13 pm

GLOBAL WARMING SAID TO CAUSE CHANGES IN EARTH ORBIT!
DONT TOUCH THAT DIAL! NEWS AT 11!
Found some cool graphs here today:
http://reallyrealclimate.blogspot.com/
Still my favorite:
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png
CO2 Rises, Arctic Ice Extent Grows………………..

WWS.
July 16, 2008 7:26 pm

This question is for Leif – I just re-read Hathaway’s 2006 prediction of a very low solar cycle 25 due to the slow down of the solar conveyor belt. (I’m sure you’re familiar with it) I of course know that we will just have to wait and see and take all predictions with a pound of salt (the ever changing start date to SS 24 being a good case in point) but I was wondering – from your work, do you think it is possible (not probable, simply possible) that Hathaway’s 2006 explanation was correct but that his timing was wrong? In other words, that the extremely low cycle he expected may be beginning now?
I know that Hathaway himself does not believe this is the case, but it looks to me like a possibility.

Bruce
July 16, 2008 7:47 pm

SS24, if you compare the SH anomaly from July 2007 to July 2008, there is slightly more ice than last year at the same time.

July 16, 2008 8:07 pm

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Evan Jones
Editor
July 16, 2008 8:20 pm

And I could see all I had done
Just chasing dreams across the fields
In the shadow of the sun

Evan Jones
Editor
July 16, 2008 8:22 pm

And the sun is gone
Forever out of this game
And the sun is gone
Her eyes will never be the same
She lost her soul
Caught in the demon’s eyes
She lost her soul
And there are no ears to hear her cries
The sun is gone

July 16, 2008 8:23 pm

Hathaway and other NASA solar physicists are painting themselves into a tight corner. Clearly they do not know what they are doing, but cannot help but pretend that they do.

Evan Jones
Editor
July 16, 2008 8:27 pm

I wonder if there are bets on solar cycle 24 in Las Vegas?
24 Black

Evan Jones
Editor
July 16, 2008 8:39 pm

ESTRAGON: He should be here.
VLADIMIR: He didn’t say for sure he’d come.
ESTRAGON: And if he doesn’t come?
VLADIMIR: We’ll come back tomorrow.
ESTRAGON And then the day after tomorrow.
VLADIMIR: Possibly.