There has been a lot of talk about the edits the BBC made to a story on climate change in response to repeated emails by a single environmental activist. Michael Ronayne has created an animation of the before and after using Google Cache:
image changes every 5 seconds -click for the full sized image
For the story on what transpired, Michael has also supplied some links to commentary and the actual email exchanges:
Glenn Beck has commentary on the email exchanges:
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/8412/
Blog bully crows over BBC climate victory
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/08/bbc_blog_bully/
From Jennifer Marohasy: There is an amusing you-tube clip with Noel Sheppard on Glenn Beck’s show talking about the BBC. Have a look:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=216v5AoQcFQ
Apparently the BBC is refusing to comment.
put together a $3 million advertising package in an attempt to stop their hemorging of believers.
This blog is sooooooooo important
Yes, but you need to take two of those zeroes of the sooooooooo and add them to the $3 million.
This is typical of the BBC. Its supposed to be independent but has it’s own agenda and left wing political bias mainly because the majority of it’s staff are recruited from the left wing press … the Guardian and the Independent.
Oooooh. A light begins to dawn. (In These States, it’s the journalism schools that do it.)
The link for solar flux data was requested:
http://www.drao-ofr.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/icarus/www/sol_home.shtml
There is lots of interesting stuff on that page.
Arrrrgggg……..
Mike and Evan said almost the same thing:
:McGrats, That’s not 3 million in advertising, it’s 100 million a year for the next three years.”
Yup… forgot a few zeros!
Jack Koenig, Editor
The Mysterious Climate Project
http://www.climateclinic.com
MCGrats,
Thanks for the reply. Sending the e-mails and messages to every public official has of course its merits, and has a useful purpose. But it’s starting at the wrong end. Politicians have a finger in the air, and are only checking the direction of public opinion, and respond accordingly. We have to do kore to change the direction of public opinion, and that is only possible from the bottom up.
Maybe we’ve got the top covered, but the bottom is lost for now. We’ve got to do more there.
I think folks like Singer, McIntyre, etc. (and of course Anthony) are doing an invaluable service. Without them, this would have been lost a long time ago.
And I’m glad that you yourself have entered the fray, and I have added your site to my favourites. Every truthtrooper more we can add will be needed.
Pierre Gosselin
Flux Density 04.10.2008 = 0067.7
another link, LOUISXIV Canadian Observatory
http://www.drao-ofr.hia-iha.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/icarus/www/current_flux.shtml
Hi folks, if you’re interested in seeing just how often the bBC changes articles you could do worse than checking out News Sniffer. Here’s the diffs for the article above.
With enemies like Jo Abbess we don’t need friends. The level of ineptitude exhibited Jo Abbess and Roger Harrabin is truly mind-boggling. Clearly neither Jo Abbess nor Roger Harrabin understands how the Internet works. If we can trust the date/time stamps in the original news story and Jo’s Email journal here are the two values which are of interest.
* BBC Story: Page last updated at 00:42 GMT, Friday, 4 April 2008 01:42 UK
* Last Email: date Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:28 AM
At a minimum the original story was on the Internet for 9 hours and 46 minutes. On a high profile site like the BBC, every search robot on the Internet copied and indexed the page multiple times. While the original page in no longer “publicly” available at Google and Live, but is available at Yahoo, rest assured that Google, Live and Yahoo retain private copies of everything for a very long time. And then there is the Wayback Machine which will not open its treasure drove until six months have expired. Trust my when I say that nothing is ever truly deleted from the Internet. The truth is always out there!
Roger Harrabin is an old pro and I would have expected better of him. It is as if he wanted to be caught or had done this so many times before that he truly believed that no one would call him on it or both. Roger’s undoing was that he evidently did not realize how incredibly stupid Jo Abbess was.
Jo Abbess is an absolute delight. In one BLOG posting she set the cause of AGW back thirty years. She confirmed everything which the Climate [Skeptics | Deniers | Nonbelievers | Nonconformists | Infidels | Atheists | Heretics] have been saying about the manipulation of the media for years. One has to wonder if Jo is a double-agent working for Exxon-Mobil or the Bush Administration, so extensive is the damage she has committed. If she had none absolutely nothing the story would have disappeared in the 24 hour news cycle but not now.
Keep up the good work Jo; we are all pulling for you. Rest assured that all over the Internet thousands of computers are now tracking your name waiting for the next pearl of wisdom you will share with us. We remain your most obedient and adoring fans.
Dr. Nir Shaviv addresses the causal link between cosmic radiation and clouds. http://www.sciencebits.com/SloanAndWolfendale
I received a reply from Roger Harrabin to my email:
“Subject: Return Global Temperatures decreasing article to its original state
Body:
Before you buckled under the pressure of one climate warming activist. ”
Roger Harrabin replied:
”
1 ) I didn’t
2) I am sure we can all agree with that
RH”
As a way to demonstrate his jounalistic integrity, perhaps Mr. Harrbin would be so kind as to interview Dr. Shaviv regarding his profession view on the causal links to climate change and publish the discussion in the BBC.
How about the direct route? A report on AquaSat and Argos would do just fine.
Hi, my first post. Very important work being done here, thanks for that!
How do you assess this new BBC article “Forecast for big sea level rise”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7349236.stm
Does scientific evidence support these claims? If not, maybe a similar approach as was used towards mr. Harrabin could be used to make this latest article more in line with reality?
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