Wrecked in a Hurricane

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

Bemused by claims about connections between solar radiation, shipwrecks, and hurricanes in the pre-publication press release of a paywalled study highlighted by Anthony here on WUWT, I thought I’d take a look. I got a copy of the study thanks to my undersea connection, much appreciated … they’re working with three datasets. One dataset, called “TCsupp”, uses years of “suppressed” tree growth in the Florida Keys as a proxy for local hurricanes. It covers the period from 1708 – 2009. Here’s the map of the location of the trees, along with recent (post-1850) hurricanes, from their Supplemental Information, which also contains their data in table form.

caribbean hurricane tracks tree ringsFigure 1. Original Caption: Geographical location of the BPK tree-ring site (red dot), HURDAT-derived (1851–2010 CE) (17) category 1–5 Tropical Cyclones (white lines) that tracked within 100 km (red buffer ring; n = 23) and 300 km (dashed red ring; n = 60) of the site.

The second dataset is a subset of the HURDAT historical hurricane dataset for 1851-2009, giving the hurricanes in the local area around the trees.

The final dataset, called “TCship”, covers a period starting before the Maunder minimum, from 1495 to 1825. It is a dataset of the numbers of selected shipwrecks per year as a proxy for the number of hurricanes. The problem, of course, is that the time period for which we have shipwreck data doesn’t overlap with the HURDAT hurricane records. Well, that’’s not the only problem with the shipwreck dataset. They say:

The TCship time series thus consists of the number of Spanish ships that wrecked per year in the Caribbean region due to storm activity or for unspecified causes.

Now, including “unspecified causes” is a worrisome choice. Particularly back then, ships went down for many reasons other than hurricanes. First, many square-rigged ships of the day couldn’t go to windward well at all, so if they got caught on a lee shore they often couldn’t stay off the rocks. In addition, the navigation of the 1500s, 1600s and 1700s was very primitive—no accurate charts, no accurate clocks, few sextants and fewer trained to use them, no lighthouses, buoys, or other aids to navigation. And setting aside the hurricanes, there were no weather satellites warning of small craft advisories that could easily force a ship into danger, or of periods of reduced visibility that could result in the loss of the ship, or of predicted squalls that could topple a mast.

As a result, a ship foundering on an unsurveyed reef with the loss of all hands or going down in a sudden squall was a common occurrence back in the day … and that doesn’t even count the wrecks from non-weather-related causes like fire and shipworms and inept commanders and pirates and poor maintenance and sleepy lookouts and lightning strikes. The list is long.

Finally, the causes of shipwrecks would assuredly have changed in the three plus centuries from Columbus’s time at the start of the record to 1825, and thus the composition of the reasons for the wrecks would also change.

So when I see that they are using storm-caused wrecks as a proxy for hurricanes, I scratch my head. Even losses in a storm are often for other reasons, most storms are not hurricanes, and most years don’t even have hurricanes in a pre-selected location.

But when I see they’ve included wrecks from “unspecified causes”, the hair on the back of my neck stands up. That’s special pleading, and something like that is rarely done without the reason being that it “improves” the analysis … but I digress.

Let me start by complimenting the authors for including the datasets in question. Without them, it would have been impossible to analyze their results. Well done, would that more authors followed the practice.

Their claim rests on three testable legs. The first is that suppressed tree rings are a good proxy for local hurricanes. The second is that shipwrecks are a good proxy for tree ring data. The third claim rests on the other two. It is that IF shipwrecks are a good proxy for tree ring suppression data, and IF tree ring suppression data in turn is a good proxy for hurricanes, then it follows that shipwrecks are a good proxy for hurricanes. This is how they say they get around the fact that they have no contemporaneous hurricane and shipwreck data.

Let me start with the first leg of the tripod, the idea that tree rings are a good proxy for local hurricanes. It turns out that yes, they are a good proxy for hurricanes in the sense that there is a low p-value, less than 0.001 … but what makes them a bad proxy is that the tree ring data only explains about 10% of the variance in hurricanes.

Let me give an example. There are 159 years in the overlap period of the hurricane records and the tree ring data, 1851-2009. Of those, 125 years had no hurricanes. The problem is that of the 125 hurricane-free years, no less than 80 of them had suppressed tree rings. This means that at a bare minimum about two-thirds of the suppressed tree rings occurred in years without hurricanes. And even when we discount the year after the hurricanes, there are still 50 years which are neither the hurricane year or the year after, but still have suppressed tree rings. This is not good news for the use of suppressed tree rings as a proxy for hurricanes.

Nor does it get much better if we just look at the years with lots of suppressed tree rings. There were 41 years when over half of the tree rings were suppressed … but 24 of those occurred in years with no hurricanes. So even when we only consider years with over 50% suppressed tree rings, more than half of the suppressed tree rings occurred in years without hurricanes. And even when we discount the year after the hurricanes, there are still 12 years which are neither the hurricane year or the year after, but still have suppressed tree rings. That’s about 30% of the suppressed tree ring years that are not caused by hurricanes.

So despite a very good p-value, there is a big problem with using the tree rings as a proxy—with only 10% of the variance explained by suppressed tree rings, there is just not enough of an effect for the suppressed rings to be a useable proxy for hurricanes. The method throws up far too many false positives to be useful.

Let me move on to the second leg, the idea that shipwrecks are a good proxy for tree-ring data. The overlap period of those two datasets is from 1708 to 1825. Bear in mind that the later part of the shipwreck dataset is likely to be much more accurate than the earlier part, both because of better record keeping and less lost records, and also because of less navigation related wrecks in the later years as charts and navigation improved greatly. With those provisos (which on their own might be enough to sink the ship of state, it’s unknown), here’s the good and the bad news.

The p-value of shipwrecks and tree rings is 0.005, again very good … but once again the same bad news. The shipwrecks only explain a small amount of the variance in tree ring suppression, in this case about 7% (R^2=0.065). And this low explanatory value is what we’d expect, given that the tree rings represent hurricanes in only one small area, but they’ve counted shipwrecks all over the Caribbean, viz:

We compiled all Spanish shipwreck events that were recorded to have occurred (i) due to storm activity (66%) or for unspecified causes (34%), (ii) during the hurricane season (July–November) or with unknown seasonality, and (c) in Florida (21%), on the Atlantic Coast of Mexico (25%), in Hispaniola (22%), Cuba (13%), the Lesser Antilles (5%), and Puerto Rico, Texas, South Carolina, Louisiana, Mississippi, Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, Bermuda, and the Bahamas (less than 5% each.

Why would we expect hurricanes in the Florida Keys to correlate well with shipwrecks in e.g. Bermuda?

So … now that we have the data, let’s look at the numbers. Given the fact that shipwrecks only explain 7% of the variance in tree ring suppression, and given that tree ring suppression in turn only explains 10% of the variance in hurricanes, how much of the variance in hurricanes would we expect the shipwrecks to explain?

I believe the correct answer is … nowhere near enough to draw any serious conclusions.

And note that this does not include any problems with changes over time in the underlying datasets, or problems in the selection criteria for the wreck data, or issues relating to the threshold chosen for inclusion as a “suppressed” tree ring, or increased uncertainties due to the small number of trees in the early period of the record, or …

My conclusion?

Not.

Not enough data. Not good enough data. Not enough correlation. Not enough explained variance. Not enough overlap between datasets. Not. That’s all. Not.

Anyhow, that’s the news from my delightfully soggy part of the world … the El Nino has indeed brought the rains. The cat mopes around the house looking for the door into summer.

Best to all,

w.

My Usual Request: Clarity is crucial for scientific discussions. If you disagree with me or anyone, please quote the exact words you disagree with. I can defend my own words. I cannot defend someone else’s interpretation of some unidentified words of mine.

My Other Request: If you think that e.g. I’m using the wrong method on the wrong dataset, please educate me and others by demonstrating the proper use of the right method on the right dataset. Simply claiming I’m wrong doesn’t advance the discussion.

My Formal Educational Qualifications:  For some reason this became an issue in my last post, gotta love trolls. Regarding educational qualifications, I have none. Get over it. My formal scientific education is a year each of college freshman physics and chemistry, period. Despite that, I now have five peer-reviewed papers published in the scientific journals, including a 2004 peer-reviewed “Brief Communications Arising” in Nature magazine (my conclusions were finally upheld more than a decade after publication by two other studies), and over fifty citations to my work. In addition, my posts and ideas have been discussed in the New York Times, the Sydney Morning Herald, the UK Telegraph, and other papers around the world. Heck, I even inadvertently and unknowingly set the stage for Climategate by making the very first Freedom of Information Request to Phil Jones. Go figure. But setting all that aside, the scientific issue is never qualifications—the only valuable question is, are my claims valid or not? If someone’s scientific claims are valid, their qualifications are immaterial … and if their claims are not valid, all the qualifications in the world won’t help their claims in the slightest. So please … can we skip the ad hominem attacks on my education, my ancestry, and my manifold sins of omission, commission, and emission, and stay focused on the science?

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Tom Halla
March 8, 2016 9:12 pm

Dodgy proxies? I don’t really see what information the writers of the study thought they could derive from tree rings (with multiple causes) or shipwrecks (ditto).

Autochthony
Reply to  Tom Halla
March 10, 2016 1:07 pm

Tom
Shipwrecks – you (and WE) are right. Hurricanes, of course, did cause shipwrecks.
But the causes WE has listed above – and others; mutiny, drunkenness, sheer incompetence [believing the other man was keeping the look out, say], plus, plus – have, most certainly, caused shipwrecks.
Many in the Caribbean. And beyond, of course.
At least, nowadays, we get few instances of running aground on completely ‘unknown’ shoals.
Many such are named for the ship that – inadvertently – found them.
Some date from the 1960s and 1970s with ‘supertankers’ drawing 20 metres (plus) venturing new routes for ships of that draft.
At the start of the Somali pirate problem, I advised my ships, ‘suddenly’ obliged [for comfort] out away from the African coast, out to well into the Indian Ocean, to check their courses carefully, as there was a likelihood that no ship of their draft [40 feet/12 metres] had ever sailed that way – down the middle of the western Indian Ocean.
Happily, none came to grief.
The MH370 search has highlighted how little we truly known about the deep ocean bottom.
More men have been to the moon than have visited [and returned from (!!!!)] the deepest parts of our oceans on Planet [uhh] Water.
Auto

Alan
March 8, 2016 9:17 pm

Thanks for that WIllis. Also agree with your comments regarding formal qualifications, I have a couple but that doesn’t necessarily make my reasoning any better than the next guy and have worked with a few with formal qualifications that have no idea at all.

Eugene WR Gallun
March 8, 2016 9:26 pm

This study is a case of dumb people trying to have a bright idea.– Eugene WR Gallun

Boulder Skeptic
Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
March 9, 2016 6:50 pm

Agreed. But, I’ll go one step further with the following disclaimer and assumption. I’ve not read the paper yet, and I’m taking as valid, this WE analysis as accurate (because WE has given plenty of reasons in this post, and in other similar “peer review” posts, that his methodology and resulting conclusions are logical and accurate). Yes, I have some more homework to do.
the further step…
I’ve been a grade school and high school Science Fair judge on a number of occasions (in addition to participating myself as a youth, pretty successfully). If this were a Science Fair project and resulting presentation, it wouldn’t even come close to winning a medal. I’d say that this illustrates a problem with the peer review process, rather than illuminating us on the workings of the physical world.
I don’t begrudge the attempt the authors made, and I also applaud them for allowing a close look at their data and methods. But at some point, don’t you have to say, “well we gave it the old college try but this methodology just doesn’t cut it because of all the big holes”? It seems so easy for WE to put a torpedo into the hull of this study such that it settles to the bottom next to one of the shipwrecks in the authors’ data. How did they and their peer reviewers not see these major shortcomings? What are we teaching scientists in college these days?
Finally, I couldn’t find the funding source quickly, but if I had to help pay for this, I am putting myself on record as being in protest.

Boulder Skeptic
Reply to  Boulder Skeptic
March 9, 2016 7:03 pm

ah, while this was an original thought as I posted it, I see that down the post, similar points were made earlier in time by: Ben of Houston March 9, 2016 at 2:19 pm
I agree with you Ben.

Tom O
Reply to  Eugene WR Gallun
March 10, 2016 7:09 am

Sorry, Eugene, I don’t agree. This study is a case of poorly educated people trying to have a bright idea. I will not say they are dumb, but the quality of their education is suspect. Then again, since education has been degraded heavily in the last few decades, it is not something I blame them for. They are a product of the system that has developed around CAGW, and that system skews the curriculum. As the saw goes, “history is written by the winners,” and for the last 30 years the winners have been the CAGW crowd, and as the winners, they have chosen to push their ideas down into the education system to gain greater traction. This study is merely an example of what comes out of a flawed educational base..

March 8, 2016 9:45 pm

So please … can we skip the ad hominem attacks on my education, my ancestry, and my manifold sins of omission, commission, and emission, and stay focused on the science?

Not a chance .

Hugs
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 8, 2016 11:11 pm

But setting all that aside, the scientific issue is never qualifications—the only valuable question is, are my claims valid or not?

That is true. On the other side, being truly unqualified often leads to claims that are both outrageously wrong and laborious to debunk in a way that would be understandable to a non-professional of the field.
I don’t believe a second unknown-reasoned shipwrecks work as a proxy for hurricanes (storms maybe). But I really want everybody to understand that one fool asks more questions and does more assertions than ten wise and knowledgeable can debunk. That is the reason why bad science flies so long, and that is why many scientists hate crackpots, i.e. active laymen with no clue.

Alex
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 9, 2016 2:15 am

Just remember: while they are talking about you they are leaving others alone.

Duster
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 9, 2016 2:36 am

Hugs, “debunk” is sloppy, but extraordinarily revealing semantics, and reflects the user’s likely intent to not address the actual claims made or data presented. It means that the basic argument – in ANY field where you see it used – is that “we all know better and the individual we are ‘debunking’ is in fact a waste of time, which we “already” know are wrong because [insert Great Theorist’s name] has already shown us the one, true and only light. If the writer were to do so, the questions would be addressed, the data assessed, and the claim found to be either disproven or provisionally accepted as a legitimate problem with what ever current theory has been flung at it. “Debunk” automatically indicates sloppy scholarship, sloppy thought processes, and the reality that the “debunker” is addressing the public rather than peers. It also is automatically an argument to authority and the very reason that “consensus” is not a scientific argument as well. In short to attempt to “debunk” is to reveal one’s self as a lazy supporter of the status quo. To disprove or weaken an argument means to actually use data and theory driven arguments to show why it appears wrong to you, and that does involve lack of “professional” training, personal traits or an assumption that because one doesn’t like the individual that their ideas can be discounted, or worse, because you don’t like their ideas that they can be discounted as reasoning humans.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 9, 2016 5:39 am

If you don’t upset the ‘right’ people then you aren’t trying hard enough. It should be a measure of success that you get such a level of personal attack as it shows that they have no counter case to argue. Laugh back in their faces.

Don Perry
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 9, 2016 5:52 am

To: Duster
Re: Comment on “debunk”
Reply: BUNK !

hunter
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 9, 2016 7:16 am

Duster,
It is interesting that the main opponents of debunking are UFO true believers and climate true believers.
Your rationale for disparaging debunking is entertaining, in a pathetic sort of way.

Cal Weyers
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 9, 2016 1:08 pm

One of the reasons I became skeptical of CAGW, was all the pro warmist sites all attacked the person, not what the person was saying. Since I didn’t know your background, I just read what you presented rather than spend time trying to look up your credentials.

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 9, 2016 1:33 pm

Duster,
I am guilty as charged of sometimes using ‘debunked’. I use it out of frustration, usually when someone is at the ‘Say Anything’ stage of their argument, such as when the Narrative requires them to use the new talking points of ‘global warming never paused’, or ‘surface stations are more accurate than satellites’.
Or when Michael Mann comes up, since he was forced to write a Corregendum in the journal Nature. Wouldn’t you agree that being required to admit that you were wrong is similar to being ‘debunked’? And can you imaging how the Corregendum would have been written by McIntyre & McKitrick, instead of that very mild self-debunking by the Mann himself?
Anyway, in my view ‘debunk’ is a very mild pejorative compared with someone repeatedly labeling another commenter a “liar” and “deceptive”, simply because a graph they linked to ended before the current year.
But to each his own, I guess. Different opinions and points of view are what makes a market…

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 10, 2016 12:19 am

Willis,
I always learn something from your comments. I had no idea that ‘Buncombe’, a county in the US, was the genesis of ‘bunkum’.
I stll like it, though. It has a certain flavor that imparts meaning. And yep, it’s an emo-term that means ‘falsified’, but with, umm-m… some emotion.
I suppose I should be a good boy and curl my pinkie when referring to Michael Mann when he’s been debunked. But that’s what makes a market; everyone has their own POV.
Yes, ‘bunkum’ means ‘total nonsense’. That’s my view, when someone attempts to erase the MWP and the LIA.
My best to you, Willis my friend, as always,
~ db. ☺

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 9, 2016 2:30 pm

Willis, your entries on WUWT should be top of your list of credible and worthy publications.

otsar
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 9, 2016 2:34 pm

Not to worry about ad hominem attacks. You would not even be noticed if your critiques did not leave mark.

Duster
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 9, 2016 6:13 pm

As Willis said, “… The problem is not that it is pejorative. For me, the term “debunked” is a red flag indicating someone with an axe to grind, as it is an emotion-laden substitute for “falsified”. …” The word is fashionable, but reveals a sad reliance on authority. It is emotional rather than rational and as I said, it indicates the user does not plan to advance a logical counter argument. The use of “debunk” is frequently accompanied by attacks on the competence, education. and antecedents of the target. I note that one responder actually mentioned that believers in “UFOs” were likely to complain about the use of “debunked”, and IIRC believing in UFOs was a position that “climate sceptics” were predicted to assume by Lewandowski.

Bob boder
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 10, 2016 7:43 am

Willis, as usual none of your analysis makes any sense and your mother wears army boots.
Sorry as much as I enjoy your posts the love fest is getting boring!
(All sarc)

Bruce
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 10, 2016 8:39 am

“…don’t judge yourself based on where you are, judge yourself based on the direction you are going…”
A nautical corollary suitable for studies using models: ‘Don’t steer the ship by watching the wake’.

Hocus Locus
Reply to  Bob Armstrong
March 9, 2016 3:45 am

So please … can we skip the ad hominem attacks on my education, my ancestry, and my manifold sins of omission, commission, and emission, and stay focused on the science?

You neglected to say yo mamma stayed in school so she could afford to offset the proxy-guestimation of your carbon footprint to an acceptable P-value. Hope that clears the slate for everybody.
Best regards.

Hocus Locus
Reply to  Hocus Locus
March 9, 2016 3:47 am

preview feature pretty please. missing end block quote.

Felflames
March 8, 2016 10:14 pm

As elegant a destruction of a theory as I have ever seen.
Nicely done. 😀

March 8, 2016 10:49 pm

Beautiful work Willis….I don’t think the patent clerk had much acknowledgment until…

asybot
March 8, 2016 11:48 pm

Thanks Willis for your report and I am, as you are, sick of the attacks, one question : on the graph with the two circles (South West of Florida) you mentioned a red dot as the center, I have an old screen and that dot isn’t very well defined. To me that dot appears to be off the SSW coast of Florida on the edge of the Gulf.
Is there info on what island those trees grew and what specific kind of trees they grew there?
After the first article you wrote I made a comment about how there seems to have been serious “cherry picking”. Some of the conclusions in this “Paper” the other day mentioned tree ring data going only back as far as 1707 but then the paper expanded this to a period starting 70 years prior. ( sorry if I am not clear but the other night that seemed to be obvious). Anyway I am glad you are getting some much needed water, I hope it not only rains in the Northern California but also in the Southern parts ( and elsewhere of course). Cheers.

Greg
March 9, 2016 12:15 am

Nice work Willis.
It was fairly obvious that this was silly science as soon at it appeared but I suppose someone had to do it formally.
Tree rings are new tea leaves. You just need to concentrate really hard on what you want to know and the pattern will instantly be revealed in the patterns of the tree rings.
MAGIC isn’t it ? ( Rhetorical question ).

James Bull
March 9, 2016 12:32 am

I had similar thoughts about this when I saw it posted, there are just too many things that could cause variation in the results ships going to the Caribbean might not have even got there but been recorded as lost there etc etc.
As for learning and qualifications, our elder son described most schooling as being taught how to pass the next exam not learn the subject.
I think this sums up how to learn very well.
Through wisdom a house is built,
And by understanding it is established;
By knowledge the rooms are filled
With all precious and pleasant riches.
Proverbs 24:3,4
James Bull

March 9, 2016 12:49 am

Does shipwreck include being sunk by pirates?

Reply to  ticketstopper
March 9, 2016 1:07 am

Debatable.
But mostly the pirates stole the ship and/or cargo and threw the crew, dead or alive, overboard.
Just as they still do today.

JustAnOldGuy
Reply to  Oldseadog
March 9, 2016 4:36 am

Isn’t there a strong possibility that pirate theft would be indistinguishable from shipwreck in the records? In other words the ship did not reach its destination on its voyage. That would appear to the record keepers as a wreck.

Reply to  Oldseadog
March 9, 2016 8:35 am

JustAnOldGuy;
Yes and no. If it were reported by others that they had seen pirates seize and destroy the vessel then that would be recorded as a loss by piracy. On the other hand if the vessel just never arrived no-one would know whether the loss was due to piracy or not.
But pirates seizing a ship would often use it rather than destroy it and this “change of ownership” would become well known anyway.
As I said, it is debatable.
( And just as a nit-pick, seize is one of the few words where ” i before e except after c ” does not apply.)

Will Nelson
Reply to  Oldseadog
March 9, 2016 5:06 pm

I before E except after C, usually. This raises another possibility, ships lost due to, ah, earthquake activity.

Reply to  ticketstopper
March 9, 2016 2:32 pm

Did they account for ships possibly lost in the Bermuda Triangle?

James Bull
Reply to  John in Oz
March 10, 2016 12:02 am

Thank you that has made my morning. I once saw someone who was trying to claim the “Triangle” extended to not far short of the Irish coast…LOL
James Bull

March 9, 2016 1:05 am

Nice work Willis.

Course de Lion
March 9, 2016 1:20 am

Excellent disquisition on the seamanship. I have a degree in Railway Engineering.

Alex
Reply to  Course de Lion
March 9, 2016 2:12 am

Write some racy novels and grope some women and you could be the next boss of the IPCC. (just kidding)

1saveenergy
Reply to  Course de Lion
March 9, 2016 3:01 am

An observation: All these railway engineers –
Adams, Armstrong, Baldwin, Blenkinsop, Brunel, Churchward, Gooch, Dean, Gresley, Hackworth, Joy, Locke, Marsh, Robinson, Stephenson, Stroudley, Trevithick, Webb, Westinghouse (& 100s of others ); did all of their work without any degrees.
As Willis said-
“If someone’s scientific claims are valid, their qualifications are immaterial … and if their claims are not valid, all the qualifications in the world won’t help their claims in the slightest.”

Reply to  1saveenergy
March 9, 2016 1:18 pm

Many of them served apprenticeships in a world where pactical experience was important as that was how you learned your trade; and in my view the sooner we go back to that the better. Academic qualifications are for academics, not practical people.

March 9, 2016 1:53 am

The good old “qualification” misdirection.
Piers Corbyn said it well when he said being correct has peer reviewed his work on BBC when asked by some stuffy clown what peer reviewed papers he had.
I guess the stuffy fool forgot that some scientists provide falsifiable hypothesis.

Ben of Houston
Reply to  Mark
March 9, 2016 2:19 pm

Let’s not forget that this garbage paper somehow made it past peer review despite being clearly suspect from the abstract and demonstratably laughable with relatively simple questions that you look at in high school statistics, and this isn’t alone. I’ve read numerous peer reviewed papers that I would give failing grades if I saw them in an elementary school science fair.
In fact, I find the entire peer review system grossly dysfunctional at the moment.

mellyrn
Reply to  Ben of Houston
March 9, 2016 4:16 pm

My non-science-oriented friends think “peer reviewed” means “other scientists tried to replicate the results on their own, and achieved at least some success”. They mostly know that that process is important; some of them even understand why.
I try to tell them, “peer reviewed” means, instead, that no editor of a journal can possibly look at and evaluate all submissions even if he were qualified, so acquires volunteers among relevant scientists to look at a new paper and say whether it aligns or does not align with currently accepted scientific thought. If it’s too far out in left field, it is not accepted for publication.
Since Copernicus’s work completely violated pretty much all of then-known physics (his proposal was not merely out in left field, it was scoring a soccer goal; it eliminated the accepted reason for “why things fall down” and offered no alternative), he would never have been published, had there been journals in his day.

Ivor Ward
March 9, 2016 2:09 am

I wonder if they took into account the fact that the British used to like sinking Spanish ships, with or without hurricanes in attendance. The Brits used to hover in the Caribbean because once the Spanish got out into the Atlantic they were hard to find. Perhaps these sinkings are included in other causes.
Anglo-Spanish Wars may refer to:
The Anglo-Spanish War (1585–1604)
The Anglo-Spanish War (1625–30) was part of the Thirty Years’ War
The Anglo-Spanish War (1654–60)
The Anglo-Spanish War (1727–29)
The War of Jenkins’ Ear, which later merged into the War of the Austrian Succession
The Anglo-Spanish War (1762–63) was part of the Seven Years’ War
The Anglo-Spanish War (1796–1808) was part of the French Revolutionary Wars and Napoleonic Wars
Other wars that pitted England against Spain, though not commonly known as “Anglo-Spanish” wars, include:
The War of the Spanish Succession (1701–13)
The War of the Quadruple Alliance (1718–20)
The American Revolutionary War (1775–83)
Just saying.

Ex-expat Colin
Reply to  Ivor Ward
March 9, 2016 2:27 am

We’d do anything for a few tots of rum!
Signed
A Brit

Caleb
Reply to  Ivor Ward
March 9, 2016 6:51 am

Francis Drake would count as five or six hurricanes.

3x2
Reply to  Ivor Ward
March 10, 2016 1:56 am

1588 must have been a big Hurricane year around Britain.

GregK
Reply to  Ivor Ward
March 10, 2016 4:35 am

The French and Dutch made their contributions as well

johnmarshall
March 9, 2016 2:37 am

Willis, read what William M Briggs (PhD statistician) has to say about “p” values before claiming that they show anything.

March 9, 2016 2:41 am

Willis, I have qualifications, for what they are worth, and I want to say that I respect you very much, as a scientist. This is typical of the careful reading, data checking, and insightful analysis that makes your articles educational to read. Honestly, this was a beautiful piece of work by you. Any journal that could get you as a reviewer would be fortunate. I’m reminded of a recent conversation I had where I was a bit out of my depth so asked some very simple basic questions, and was thanked for making a valuable contribution because the person I was talking to hadn’t thought of some of them. The thing I admire here is the way you went for the basics, so that it is easy to understand the problems you found and hard to evade them.

Reply to  Richard A. O'Keefe
March 9, 2016 1:10 pm

Richard O’Keefe wrote:
This is typical of the careful reading, data checking, and insightful analysis that makes your articles educational to read… Any journal that could get you as a reviewer would be fortunate.
I agree, Willis would be a great reviewer. Once in a while I’ll send him a link to something I’ve come across that looks unusual. More often than not, he replies with a thorough deconstruction. I get deflated — but then I know better than to send the fake info on to anyone else.

Don K
March 9, 2016 2:48 am

Another great article. Is the TCship database somehow adjusted for the number of Spanish ships in the region in any given year? In the 1490s there were presumably only a handful and even if there were many hurricanes the chance of a meaningful number of hurricane induced shipwrecks would probably be pretty low. A century later there were probably a lot of ships.
Also, Wikipedia tells me that starting in the 1560s, many(/most/all?) Spanish merchant ships traveled in occasional convoys to and from Seville. Presumably, once the convoy system was in place, the number of shipwrecks depended a lot on what sort of weather each convoy encountered.
All in all. The article Isn’t awful. But it seems pretty lightweight. Suggestive, but not remotely definitive?

taxed
March 9, 2016 3:19 am

Yes looking at ship wrecks maybe not the best way to go about this.
Myself l would have looked to see if there was a link between the south east USA been cool and wet during the hurricane season and low hurricane activity.

Another Ian
March 9, 2016 3:26 am

Willis
If that citation you got from the Sydney Morning Herald was negative it might rate as more of a positive

nofixedaddress
March 9, 2016 3:38 am

Willis,
Thanks for your deconstruction.
You may be interested in the work done by Jonathon Nott, see http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/31/australian-tropical-cyclone-activity-measured-to-be-at-the-lowest-levels-in-modern-history/ and http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v413/n6855/abs/413508a0.html
Whenever I see the use of tree rings these days my reaction is “lets have a bit of a closer look at that one”.

Marcus
March 9, 2016 4:05 am

..I heard lately that tree rings work better for LP’;s than for 45’s ..?

Marcus
Reply to  Marcus
March 9, 2016 4:10 am
thechuckr
Reply to  Marcus
March 9, 2016 5:41 am

Does that sound like “turn me on dead man” or is it just me?

Tom in Florida
March 9, 2016 4:31 am

You have wrecked their paper.

hunter
Reply to  Tom in Florida
March 9, 2016 7:12 am

A most deserving end, it would seem.

AnonyMoose
Reply to  Tom in Florida
March 9, 2016 10:47 am

If it’s been wrecked, it must be due to a hurricane.

Lewis P Buckingham
March 9, 2016 4:49 am

I am confused by the supposition that when the climate was cooler in the Caribbean, that there would be more, stronger hurricanes than now. I understand that the tree ring findings are of little use establishing anything of use to resolve this.
I understand[?rightly] that the IPCC models expect that hurricanes will become stronger and more
frequent as the climate warms due to Anthropogenic CO2.
However I have read here that as the difference in the temperature between the tropical zone and the rest of the hemispheres falls,as the planet warms, there will be less heat transport in the atmosphere between the hemispheres, so the energy in hurricanes will be less as will be their frequency.
We are reminded that the most violent storms occur on Jupiter, due to atmospheric temperature difference,not absolute temperature.
The fact that hurricanes are less frequent globally during the pause, or at least do not change much, does not help in my confusion.

Oatley
March 9, 2016 5:02 am

“…don’t judge yourself based on where you are, judge yourself based on the direction you are going.”
I like that, Willis.
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