Back in 2012, WUWT reported on professor Liao’s bizarre human genetic engineering proposals to combat climate change – ideas so crazy even Bill McKibben thought they were stupid. Unsurprisingly, the idea is still circulating, even gaining traction among some radical greens. The latest manifestation is a positive review of Liao’s plans in Australia’s mainstream news.
Humans of the future: Short, allergic to meat and with night vision
HAVE we been looking at the climate change issue all wrong?
Scientists are becoming increasingly interested in whether changing ourselves instead of the environment could be the unexpected solution to the world’s biggest problem.
The controversial idea of “human engineering” to lower our impact on the planet was suggested by New York University bioethics professor S Matthew Liao in 2012, who said the concept was “potentially less risky than geoengineering” and “could help behavioural and market solutions succeed in mitigating climate change”.
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But the idea hasn’t gone away. Gizmodo’s Meanwhile in the Future podcast this week examined some of the specific ideas to see how altering our bodies might fix our planet. And this is just a starting point: the possibilities are endless.
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NIGHT VISION
The first proposal we cover is night vision — the idea that we could genetically engineer humans to have more rods so we could better see at night, and thus reduce our dependence on electric lights.
SHORTNESS
Smaller people, quite logically, tend to use up fewer energy resources. We were much shorter 100 years ago, and Prof Liao says we could go back.
COGNITIVE ENHANCEMENT
Mental alterations are even more divisive than physical “improvements”. Could making us smarter guarantee better choices? Prof Liao suggests administering drugs including Ritalin and Modafinil to improve our intelligence, pointing out the link between cognitive ability and having fewer children.
But it’s complicated. There are other factors at work, including education, healthcare and economic and social conditions. And it’s not always the cleverest people who make the best decisions. …
From Gizmodo:
Liao is very clear that he has no plans to force anybody to be shorter or to take Modafinil. But eugenics actually didn’t start out as something that was forced on people — many of the early eugenics proponents were all about choice. Francis Galton, the cousin of Charles Darwin, saw the idea of selective breeding as something that would become a “civil religion.” As Allen Buchanan, Dan W. Brock, Norman Daniels, and Daniel Wikler write in the book From Chance to Choice: Genetics and Justice:
If there was a core belief common to all eugenicists, it would have to be expressed in the most general terms: concern for human betterment through selection—that is, by taking measures to ensure that the humans who do come into existence will be capable of enjoying better lives and of contributing to the betterment of lives for others.
I’m not saying we’re one step away from Nazi-style eugenics here. But this is a road we’ve been down before, and it didn’t end well for us. So we should think carefully about this possible future. Climate change is a really tough problem. It’s going to require a whole lot of different (and even weird) solutions to make the future livable and just. But we can’t forget history as we forge into the future.
In some ways I find Professor Liao’s ideas on mass administration of drugs even more disturbing than his genetic ideas. Ritalin is a powerful stimulant which is sometimes prescribed to children with attention deficit disorder. In small doses, in very controlled circumstances, it can help people with brain chemistry imbalances focus on tasks, and lead a more normal life. But Ritalin is hideously addictive and has dangerous side effects. It is one of the most widely abused street drugs. Its street name is Ice, or Meth – Ritalin is Methamphetamine.
Correction (From Wikipedia)
Ritalin Methylphenidate (trade names Concerta, Methylin, Medikinet, Ritalin, Equasym XL, Quillivant XR, Metadate) is a central nervous system (CNS) stimulant of the phenethylamine[3] and piperidine classes that is used in the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and narcolepsy.
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Methylphenidate can worsen psychosis in psychotic patients, and in very rare cases it has been associated with the emergence of new psychotic symptoms.[63] It should be used with extreme caution in patients with bipolar disorder due to the potential induction of mania or hypomania. There have been very rare reports of suicidal ideation, but evidence does not support a link. Logorrhea is occasionally reported. Libido disorders, disorientation, and hallucinations are very rarely reported. Priapism is a very rare adverse event that can be potentially serious.
USFDA-commissioned studies from 2011 indicate that in children, young adults, and adults there is no association between serious adverse cardiovascular events (sudden death, heart attack, and stroke) and the medical use of methylphenidate or other ADHD stimulants.
Because some adverse effects may only emerge during chronic use of methylphenidate, a constant watch for adverse effects is recommended.
Modafinil in my opinion may not be much better. Modafinal is rapidly becoming a favourite of executives striving to hit tight deadlines, because its side effects seem to be less severe than Ritalin, which can lead users to develop paranoia and violent psychosis. Modafinal is a popular student drug – it is a memory enhancer, and it lets users continue to function for several days without sleep, with very little loss of mental acuity. But long term use of Modafinal may be just as damaging in some ways, as other widely abused stimulant drugs.
According to The Guardian;
… Sahakian’s research also suggests that prolific use over a prolonged period of time could have a potentially damaging effect on sleep architecture.
“Some professionals tend to use it on specific occasions – when they’re jetlagged or when they’ve had a particularly bad night’s sleep,” she says. “They don’t use it every day and they don’t use it in multiple doses. Whereas, if you talk to students, they’ve often taken a dose and then, when they feel it’s wearing off, they’ve taken another dose.
“And of course that does affect their sleep pattern, because when they should be going to bed, they’ve still got the drug in their system, still exerting its wake-promoting effects. This is of course counter-productive, as we consolidate our memories during sleep.”
I spoke to students who used modafinil during exam periods. They revealed that after several weeks, they had the sensation of permanently being trapped in a twilight zone, neither asleep nor awake. …
A genetic modification for cat like night vision, or to change someone’s height? I could imagine some people actually embracing that. There are times I would certainly like better vision, and parents already in some cases tinker with the height of their children through medical interventions. But advocating mass genetic engineering, or mass administration of powerful, dangerous drugs, in the name of saving the environment, is surely nothing short of sheer lunacy.
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The eugenicists are alive and well and every bit as deranged as their kind have been in the history of the human race. The danger is when folks say “well they’ve got a point” when confronted with a eugenicist wearing a lab coat and speaking technicalize.
Considering Arrhenius was the father of this AGW scam and a devout eugenics supporter, we have come full circle.
Well I haven’t seen dwarves or even wharves in print in eons.
I’ve gotten used to dwarfs and wharfs.
I think the rule says (for plurification) ” Change the f to a v and add es “
For ‘dwarves’, read Tolkien.
And why isn’t it the Kansas City Chieves?
The word “dwarves” was invented by JRR Tolkien and refers exclusively to a species of vertically challenged miners who hate orcs and dragons. “Dwarfs” refers to small humans.
Given the nature of the piece, referring to genetic engineering to make us smaller and give us night vision (something dwarves have in both D&D and Tolkien), either one is actually a valid choice of words.
WelI, I wasn’t kidding. it is a rule from English as spoken in British and colonial places.
For example roof pluralizes to rooves, and leaf to leaves, and half to halves, and so on.
Was probably discussed in just about the last English grammar lesson, I ever had, around 8-10 years old.
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PS No way am I going to read Tolkien. Still have not a clue what the heck Lord of the Rings, or The Hobbit are about. Saw all of the flicks. No idea what it was all about; besides massive violence.
Ain’t gonna read Dune either. I guess I just don’t read fiction; well besides what is in Maths books, which is all pure fiction.
The books focus far less on conflict and far more on journey and introspection. To compare, the short journey of Frodo and Sam across Mordor which the movies spent 15 minutes on was a full sixth of the Lord of the Rings, most of it spent in Sam’s mind trying to get through the day. A great many people who loved the books didn’t care for the movies for that reason.
The eugenicists changed their practices from genocide to menticide and said so if we trace back what has really been called for in K-12 education globally back through the decades. Evolution at the genetic level takes to long so after the Second World war and particularly through the UN and UNESCO, the intention to change people through education and thus Mindshifts at a neurological level have been quite overt.
http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/menticide-deliberate-targeting-of-our-frame-of-orientation-for-examination-and-then-assault-via-education/ is just the latest tracking of very real declarations of intent. I did not create the word menticide. I am quoting from a 1957 MIT conference on Creative Altruism on how the desired transformations should occur. There is a link in comments to a 1968 UNESCO report commemorating the 20th Anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the attendant plannned ed vision to implement it. It fits the current facts of global ed perfectly and is part of the Post-2015 Road to Dignity for All by 2030 the UN and world leaders pledged to last week.
Strong well nourished farm lads dug the WW 1 trenches. U.K. city lads who grew up undernourished weren’t of much use in the heavy work part of that war.
Off hand can’t find the citation for this information. Well nourished population in a benefit to any country.
“And this is just a starting point: the possibilities are endless.” We can model anything and everything and soon we will be living in a virtual world.
Animals like cats which are adapted to low light vision have other sdaptions, such as an iris capable of closing nearly all the way, and a nictating membrane, so they can get some sleep when they need to.
It has been shown that illuminating the retina disrupts sleep dramatically.
Having more light sensitive eyes may be harmful.
How about we just get some night vision goggles?
Better yet, how about we just use LED lights with a small battery and a maybe a photocell to recharge them?
FYI: Ritalin is a central nervous stimulant but it is not methamphetamine. Nor is it nearly as dangerous.
Corrected, thanks.
Adderall is amphetamine. Adderall is prescribed in the same situations as Ritalin prescription and is, more or less, claimed to have the same “benefits”.
Here in the UK when you look at government funded drugs alarmist info, then you will discover that amphetamine causes loss of concentration and hyperactivity.
But, when you look at government funded pro-pharmaceutical info. then you will discover that adderall helps to reduce loss of concentration and hyperactivity.
Even though Aderrall IS amphetamine.
It’s a topic that is a lot like global warming!!!
Wouldn’t it be quicker and cheaper to just poke everyone’s eyes out as your cutting their legs off ???
Why not breed cows that don’t fart? Save the planet from all that methane! Or humans that don’t exhale since it’s the CO2 that’s so terrible.
Did not the Nazis practice eugenics? I am finding this link of environmentalists, and I emphasize the word “mental” contained therein, with climate alarmism, to be a very deadly mixture.
Some Americans and Brits were very fond of the concept in the first three decades of the last century. Look up Margaret Sanger
Or even Churchill.
Yeah – Sanger considered Blacks to be “human weeds” and wanted to cull them from society. She gave lectures at KKK meetings about racial eugenics and her means to accomplish it: her “Negro Project”, her plan to keep Blacks from breeding, and aborting their babies if they did.
Sanger founded Planned Parenthood who are keeping alive her vision: Blacks are ~12% of the population, but ~35% of abortions in America are committed upon Blacks.
Liberal utopia.
Eugenics was popular across the planet, most colleges in europe or amercian offered it as a degree program. At the very least it was taught in 1 or 2 classes that were required for any degree program.
Abortion today is simply a solution for someone being irresponsible when there are so many ways to prevent
unwanted pregnancy. The proof lies in the fact that AIDS / HIV infections / exposures are almost unheard of these
days because people took it seriously when their health and life depends on being personally responsible. People
used condoms and took precautions. It is also obvious that people who use protection for their own health and life are
selfish when it comes to the destruction of an unwanted fetuses life, when they could have, just as easily, prevented their
unwanted pregnancy as protecting their own life by using protection. And don’t tell me it is too expensive to afford birth control. After 4 or 5 months gestation there are very few excuses for abortions, my personal view, because the fetus is mostly viable and able to carry on life outside the mother.
Another thing:
If we were in a similar situation as was common to the French Revolution I am positive that many, many, many heads would be rolling around in big baskets under the Guillotine. The “common man” is getting really pissed off at all this crap with the government, politicians, special interests, media bias, the idiots running the U.S. who infest the White House, etc., etc,…. Maybe it’s time to invent a modern style Guillotine. Just watch out where you stand…Physically and politically.
Just had to say it.
And Eleanor Roosevelt and the rest of the east coast liberal gang.
This was used as defence by the Nazis in the Nuremburg trials.
Y’all, let’s stop the conspiracy theories.
Let’s just say Eugenics and Social Darwinism were very popular in the early 1900s. The only reason Eugenics fell into disfavor in the first place was that the Nazis took it to such extremes. Even now, the practice has its supporters. Practice of eugenics on a mass scale can only be performed by violating fundamental rights, so this sort of mess is horrifying.
Let’s leave it at that. Playing politics and accusations of this and that being tools of oppression get us nowhere.
I had to have an abortion to save my life. People who want to dictate this sort of very personal thing are trespassing on someone else’s personal lives.
I long for the day when when carbon-based life forms taxing carbon will be considered equally bizarre!
Aren’t most alarmists anti GMO?
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Of course they probably secretly plan to inflict this on the masses while keeping their children as the tall ruling class.
Shouldn’t tall people pay higher taxes if they are made of more Carbon? Also if height correlates with longevity they exhale CO2 more over their lives. In fact in general, the older should pay more taxes than the younger too, since they’ve been pollluting the atmosphere for longer and so have done more harm.
Most scientists are pro GMO.
Most scientists also like to be able to get food to eat.
Starving sans GMOs is not a choice I will make.
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err another 97% statement?
most have no idea, some are pro many are agin it.
curiously, like warming…we sceptics of the monmongrels “science” and data gaps and hidden commercial in confidence claims, as well as restrictions on access to the product to independently test – speak volumes, none of it nice words:-/
eat enough gm mod foods and we might find gm humans develop anyway
from the look of the avg…human its already happening:-)
the obesity n allergy and food intolerance rises.
Most alarmists aren’t scientists.
Is Oz Speak not an officially recognized form of English?
Aren’t most farm animals ‘GMO’ via breeding? What about bulldogs?
Bulldogs show what’s wrong with GMO since they have a lot of trouble even breathing. horses show the better side of GMO since we bred them to be useful.
Don’t get me wrong, I am firmly against turning us into dwarves with night vision.
PS the Little Ice Age probably made people shorter!
Abstract – 2004
Richard H. Steckel
New Light on the “Dark Ages” The Remarkably Tall Stature of Northern European Men during the Medieval Era
…..It is plausible to link the decline in average height to climate deterioration; growing inequality; urbanization and the expansion of trade and commerce, which facilitated the spread of diseases; fluctuations in population size that impinged on nutritional status; the global spread of diseases associated with European expansion and colonization; and conflicts or wars…..
doi: 10.1215/01455532-28-2-211
Some Revolutionary Military War records do have the heights of individual soldiers and there were tall men back then in the 6′ + range. Civil War records have height, eye and hair color.
Lincoln was 6′ + tall.
This is just another con job being put over on the public.
Probably the main difference is that infants were not fed the high calorie food that they are fed now.
George Washington was 6’2″
And Washington, b.1732, was 6′ tall and some say 6’2″.
Tall guys have been around for a lot longer than popular myth has it.
Frederick the Great and his Father had a regiment of tall soldiers who were a minimum of 6’2″ about the same time period as Washington. They didn’t seem to have any trouble finding tall people to put in it either, one was 7’2″.
A lot of this short people in the past myth got started by the sizes of suits of armor on display in various castles. They seem to be for short people. But a couple of years ago some historian figured out that those suits were all two-thirds size model suits built for display not wear. Medieval manikins in a way.
Gov. Joseph Jencks, R.I, 1656-1740, was said to be the tallest man in Rhode Island at 7’2″.
The Colonists had very good nutrition as food was plentiful.
Well administering stimulus drugs sure helped these guys.
<Adolf Hitler was intoxicated with drugs—nearly all of them. Throughout his reign of terror, he shot up anything from steroids to heroin before sending Nazis 35 million pills of meth—on one occasion alone.
The fact, long discussed in Nazi lore, has resurfaced with new details in a book out Thursday by German writer Norman Ohler titled Der Totale Rausch (The Total Rush). Ohler, an award-winning novelist and screenplay writer, spent years sifting through German and U.S. records to uncover more details about the Fuhrer’s drug-induced genocide, which led to the death of six million Jews.
To keep up with Hitler’s fast-paced killing machine, Nazis relied on what was essentially a pill form of crystal meth, called Pervitin. Synthesized by a chemist in Berlin and marketed for alertness, the drug was initially sold over the counter in pharmacies across Europe. Just one pill, says Ohler, gave the Nazis the alertness they needed to remain awake for hours. Thanks, in part, to the ease with which they could obtain it, the Nazis believed it to be just “like coffee.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/10/uncovered-records-show-nazis-were-high-on-meth.html
Not only Meth but the Reich also came up with Hydrocodone (Vicodin), which is a pain killer, synthetic opiate, which also has a stimulating effect in many. On the battle lines it would have been a very beneficial drug, but not for long as it is very addictive.
I believe they did so out of necessity, as Turkey was the only source of morphine and had gone over to the allies. They needed a substitute.
More recently:
“One of the issues highlighted by the Inquiry related to the use of amphetamines in combat. In testimony it was revealed that Schmidt and Umbach were told by their superiors to use “go pills” on their missions, and the airmen blamed the incident on the drugs.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarnak_Farm_incident
May still be in the kit. At least a couple of decades back US pilots had some kind of speed in the med kit for use if needed. You were discouraged from “needing” too often…. Frankly, when fractional seconds mean live vs die, I’d take the go pill for combat.
Pervitin was the chemically the same as Dexedrine which was regularly issued to pilots until not too long ago by the US military. It was also made available to other troops at least during WWII if not later. So that big revelation just quacked and fell dead….heh. Dexedrine is still in medical use today, tho it’s now a controlled substance.
In Viet Nam soldiers were issued timed release dexedrine pills when they had to be awake for 48 hours or more. They came in green bags of 100, and there didn’t seem to be much accounting. And at least until recently, USAF pilots were supplied with them too. Maybe they still are.
“Sméagol likes the dark, don’t we, my precious. So nice and cool. But Sméagol likes meat too — tasty fish, so juicy sweet! Poor Sméagol. Sméagol hates nasty hippie granola.”
What has it gots in its pocketses?
My Precioussss.
“Hippie granola” indeed! One of the funniest remarks I have seen on thisss forum.
In the interest of accuracy: Ritalin is methylphenidate. Adderall is “Amphetamine salts” including dextroamphetamine and amphetamine. Dexedrine is basically straight dextroamphetamine. Methamphetamine is sold under the brand Desoxyn.
So whats ICE?
A) Immigration and Customs Enforcement: Your tax dollars at work.
B) “Crystal Meth”, a purified crystalline form of methamphetamine.
The evil Internal Combustion Engine.
Corrected – thanks.
Eugenics: Takes laboratory results of heredity and extrapolates to the complex, real world.
AGW: Takes laboratory results of spectroscopy and extrapolates to the complex, real world.
Eugenics: Believes one factor (genetics) will dominate all others eventually – simple.
AGW: Believes one factor (warming from CO2) will dominate all others eventually – simple.
Eugenics: Assumes the theory is certain and thus real harm is justified to prevent the “certainty” of the theoretical harm that may happen.
AGW: Assumes the theory is certain and thus real harm is justified to prevent the “certainty” of the theoretical harm that may happen.
Faith in falsehood leads to Actions that harm, again.
Why don’t we just put as much collective effort as we can into reaching Kurzweil’s Singularity, then we’ll all be waveforms with no carbon footprint at all? The additional advantage will be that we will be immortal.
Let me get this straight, though:
Genetically modified food: bad
Genetically modified humans: good.
I will never understand the mindset that can think this way.
Isn’t all sexually produced life a GMO anyway? You take half of the genes from one organism and splice them with the other half from another organism. I have seem some pictures of the procedure that does not make it look like a natural act.
May I suggest that you are looking at the wrong sort of pictures 😉
no you never will! It is after all an insane way of looking at the world
“But advocating mass genetic engineering, or mass administration of powerful, dangerous drugs, in the name of saving the environment, is surely nothing short of sheer lunacy.”
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Follow the money Did they receive a grant to study this, or propose this to seek a grant. If so it is not lunacy but a payday.
You forgot GMO ERSST v4.
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/extended-reconstructed-sea-surface-temperature-version-4
Raw observation: bad
Modified data from observation: good
These days, you can modify anything, referred to as “enhanced” product, no questions asked.
When we are all arrested under the rico act, they can then tamper with out genes.
as opposed to tampering with the in genes?
Newscientst mag is on the Eugenics boat too.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22730400-700-morality-2-0-how-manipulating-our-minds-could-save-the-world/
Let’s reengineer people’s minds to bring them in line with the pop-morality of the month (this month its climate change). Or as Lenin/Stalin/Mao embraced, engineering the new Soviet man!
Or they could just dictate that all lights be out and then have everyone turn in like the cave men (sorry, persons) did at dark. Would not only increase energy savings but reduce industrial consumption. Not sure about having fewer children because as Europe is finding out, a less tolerant more prolific culture may start to dominate. But then less tolerant cultures also use less energy by sometimes destroying it faster than it’s used so that could be a plus also.
I also wonder if ADD, autism and possibly other disorders may have a lot of intentional mislabeling to enhance monetary gain for doctors, like when being “gay” was a psychological disorder.
Just to point out being gay IS a psychological disorder. The question is should it be treated, if so how and with who’s money.
In the US we have a Constitution that basically says psychological disorder are perfectly fine and government attempting to cure people is not fine. However have a science perspective being gay is undoubtedly a psychological disorder.
I don’t think its necessarily that clearcut. A billion years of evolution has produced some pretty optimised survivors. I don’t think anyone has a comprehensive list of all the adaptions we have accumulated which promote survival. A proportion of individuals being gay might serve an undiscovered yet important social purpose which promotes survival of the species.
And evidently caused by a self extincticating gene; that is not too successful at replication.
temp, that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, and harkens back to the era that gave rise to the word “hysterectomy”, leaving women removed of their organs simply because, in reality, men and their stupid ideas made us want to just SLAP you! There are many examples of same gender pairing in the natural world across the animal kingdom, making your contention baseless and making you look extremely lacking in scientific knowledge.
To Pamela Gray
While worrall response is mostly a poor attempt at moralizing the issue… your comment is just straight out bigoted and sexist.
“There are many examples of same gender pairing in the natural world across the animal kingdom”
Your endorsements of both pedophile and incest are also lacking in scientific rigor I suppose neither of them or a host or others actions taken by animals would be classed as psychological disorders by the “scientific standard” that you hold to.
Bioethics? Bioethics?
I remember when bioethics was concerned with the morality and ethics of medical treatment or non-treatment.
Times change, I guess.
But its bioethics at NYU, which is easily translated to “situational morality with regard to any living substance,” I’m very sure that somewhere in the curriculum there’s a discussion of the right to gender-self-determination of spores.
Don’t forget the Morloks, who were short and could see in the dark. Apparently smart too. And Eloi who were tall and stupid. The Eloi were the vegans tho and the Morloks seem to find the Eloi tasty. But that was probably the result of the law of unintended consequences.
Morlocks – wish I’d thought of that…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlock
Eugenics is a fundamental pillar of socialism. As long as socialism exists in some form, eugenics will exist to support it. Global warming is nothing more then re-take of socialism. Where ages ago eugenics would bring about utopia and save us from all that is bad in the world…. we now have global warming which is going to kill us all and the only fix is socialism/eugenics. Same thing different starting and ending point.
Wouldn’t that be fascism instead of socialism? American Eugenics’ long history is from the right wing fascists, as were the Nazi Eugenics experiments.
Lot of problem with this statement.
First eugenics could be argued to be first started in plato’s time. However the “scientific” codifying of the term happened in colleges starting in the early 1910s or so long before hitler was around. Hitler learned of eugenics from colleges not just in germany but across europe and the US(harvard, princeton and pretty much every ivy league school in the US was pro eugenics almost all still remain that way today) . The reason hitler added eugenics to his thinking is because it was wildly popular around the world(though it did help him look more sciency as well). Eugenics in fact was as a movement much larger in the US then in germany per say.
As to “right-wing fascists” no such thing exists in science. Fascism is a very light form of socialism and from a science perspective is considered central left to leftwing. Like all forms of socialism it is “branded” with its creators “name” much like stalinism is a brand of communism/socialism.
Eugenics is the socialist study of the methods to alter the means of production. Is the best definition for people to understand it.
Fascism is Socialism, with an explicit nationalism.
Socialism is Fascism is Socialism they are one and the same. The Nazi’s official name is the National Socialist Democratic Workers Party
The only real difference between fascism and socialism was the extreme nationalism that comes with fascism.
NAZI means “National Socialist”
A nation of nocturnal dwarfs will be quickly conquered.
Except that in the animal kingdom, nocturnal smaller animal species survived the events that brought about the extinction of larger non-nocturnal dinosaurs.
I guess the late 1960’s are coming around again.
This may happen, anyway, as the daily dose of hundreds of tons of radioisotope-laden water pours into the Pacific and daily dose of trillions of Bq of a wide variety of radioisotopes vent into the Jet Stream from the still uncontrolled Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear disaster in Japan constantly increases the Northern Hemisphere’s load of deadly radiation pouring on all of us…
One of my uncles was once involved in a government experiment to see what radiation would do to the environment. Sadly no interesting sci-fi mutants, just trees with floppy trunks which grew along the ground, and other strange and rather sad defects…
Larry,I’m kind’a curious about something. How many people have died as a result of radiation from the release of radioactive material from the Fukushima plant? What is the average dose of people exposed to radiation from the Fukushima plant?
Larry go home
Northern Hemisphere’s load of deadly radiation
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster#Contamination_in_the_eastern_Pacific
Groups, including Beyond Nuclear and the Tillamook Estuaries Partnership, challenged these predictions on the basis of continued isotope releases after 2011, leading to a demand for more recent and comprehensive measurements as the radioactivity made its way east. These measurements were taken by a cooperative group of organizations under the guidance of a marine chemist with the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, and it was revealed that total radiation levels, of which only a fraction bore the fingerprint of Fukushima, were not high enough to pose any direct risk to human life and in fact were far less than Environmental Protection Agency guidelines or several other sources of radiation exposure deemed safe.[176]
I’m guessing that you actually believe that any radiation, even in teensy weensy doses is bad news?
Your counter top, if it’s made of granite, is more radioactive than the water being pumped out of Fukushima.
By that I am referring to the water that is being released after all the filtering. Sorry for any confusion.
COOL!
Though perhaps I should add that I am not all that tall to begin with, and night vision would certainly be an improvement for me.
There have been times when I could have used a third hand.
Some where out there, in a far,far away galaxy , aliens are looking at the Earth and saying … ” Wow, good thing we didn’t stop there, what a nut house ” !!!!
No Marcus, those aliens are humans from 150M yrs ago that were left earth under duress from the liberals of the time, who were so indignant over their 0.8C solar-induced global warming that they actually did turn the skeptics of the time into skinny dwarves with big heads fed with Ritalin, who got to be so smart they left the planet while the libs almost killed themselves off fighting over CO2-starved food during the subsequent ice age. Looking back at Earth now, they say “see, we knew they would try that again. Good thing we left that nuthouse!”
/sarc off