Failed Earth Day Predictions

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Via iHateTheMedia, here are a few of the predictions made on the first Earth Day. Don’t these sound like the predictions today that fail, like the 50 million climate refugees by 2010 followed by the moving of the goalposts to 2020?

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”

• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”

• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”

• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”

• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’”

• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

and this classic:

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”

• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

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MattN
April 22, 2015 1:27 pm

In celebration of Earth Day today and promote his climate change agenda, Obama hops on Air Force 1 to the Everglades and proceeds to burn about 10,000 gallons of jet fuel in the process.

old construction worker
Reply to  MattN
April 22, 2015 4:58 pm

don’t get m started

Bubba Cow
Reply to  MattN
April 22, 2015 1:55 pm

I heard that with sea level rise, the Everglades is 35 feet under water . . . I hope O is on a boat.

Roger P.Geol. in Calgary
Reply to  Bubba Cow
April 22, 2015 4:57 pm

I hope he’s NOT…;-)

Reply to  Bubba Cow
April 22, 2015 6:25 pm

No no that is about 2.4 mm/year.

Steve P
Reply to  MattN
April 22, 2015 1:57 pm


Everglades
Harlan’s Howard’s tune performed by the Kingston Trio
Columbia Records, 1960
‘Not too much tie-in, but it’s a nice song…

Steve P
Reply to  Steve P
April 22, 2015 2:02 pm

Capitol Records, that is.
The mistakes are all there, waiting to be made
–Savielly Tartakower

Kirkc
Reply to  MattN
April 22, 2015 4:08 pm

I like hops.

old44
Reply to  Kirkc
April 22, 2015 5:39 pm

Processed?

SandyInLimousin
Reply to  Kirkc
April 23, 2015 3:42 am

In beer?

Reply to  MattN
April 22, 2015 4:38 pm

In celebration of Earth Day today, and to counter the doom and gloom, I pointed out that the biggest climate catastrophe for polar bears happened during the Last Ice Age, with a map of Ice Age sea ice you won’t find anywhere else. It may surprise you how bad it was.
http://polarbearscience.com/2015/04/21/polar-bears-barely-survived-the-sea-ice-habitat-changes-of-the-last-ice-age-evidence-suggests/
All uphill from there. Obama’s got his work cut out for him on this issue, no wonder he didn’t chose to highlight polar bears.
Dr. Susan Crockford, zoologist

Gloria Swansong
Reply to  polarbearscience
April 22, 2015 4:54 pm

I recalled reading about 70,000 year-old polar bear fossils from England, but in searching found this 2011 genetic study on 50 Ka Irish fossils:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/wildlife/8622987/Polar-bears-traced-back-to-Britain.html
Seems to me though that reanalysis of polar bear evolution placed their origin back before the Eemian, earlier having been thrown off due to interbreeding with brown bears on Bering Sea islands.
In any case, it appears that even long before the LGM, polars were forced to seek refuge in the British Isles.

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
Reply to  polarbearscience
April 22, 2015 11:29 pm

All they ate was gateau from Iceland. Only British people will ‘get’ that.

ferdberple
Reply to  polarbearscience
April 23, 2015 6:03 am

gateau from Iceland
===
they sailed to sea in a jolly gateau while eating a delicious bateau. its all french to me.

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
Reply to  polarbearscience
April 23, 2015 8:50 am

Happy St George’s Day to my fellow Englishmen here (and ladies).

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  polarbearscience
April 23, 2015 9:14 am

Thanks Susan.

James at 48
Reply to  polarbearscience
April 23, 2015 1:42 pm

Wow, perennial ice in the Gulf of Alaska? That is surprising. I can see it north of the Aleutians but this takes me aback.

Annie
Reply to  MattN
April 22, 2015 5:20 pm

HM The Queen is known to hop onto a train. She certainly doesn’t have the massive motorcades accompanying the POTUS. How many people and other aircraft accompanied AF 1?

James Bull
Reply to  Annie
April 23, 2015 12:02 am

I can’t remember which of the past POTUS visited the UK and stayed at Buck House but before the event the US security types wanted vast and expensive upgrades to the place to make it safe (fortress). The Queen said no it’s fine for me. Then again she hasn’t done so much to upset the world although various PM’s have done their best.
James Bull

tom
Reply to  MattN
April 22, 2015 7:06 pm

I decided to celebrate earth day by dropping off the grid and run everything on my shiny new 300 HP diesel generator!
What? At least I’m off the grid….

pete j
Reply to  MattN
April 22, 2015 8:11 pm

He’s actually paying homage to his hero, Lenin, on the anniversary of his birth. Commies unite against corporate greed to nationalize all land, industry and corporations, becoming the first country to legalize abortion and homosexuality, no fault divorce, free education and universal heathcare. Most famous for his quote, “a lie told often enough becomes the truth.” Happy B-day Vlad!

ferdberple
Reply to  MattN
April 23, 2015 5:40 am

do as I say, not as I do. leadership uses to mean taking the lead. now it means dictates from on high, with the biggest sinners telling everyone else not to sin.

DirkH
April 22, 2015 1:27 pm

The best part about Ehrlich is that these days he’s running around telling all stoopid microphoneholders that his predictions from The Population Bomb all came true.
Together with the fact that Ehrlich is German for honest.

Brute
Reply to  DirkH
April 22, 2015 5:02 pm

I applaud his commitment to his predictions. He is not satisfied that one or two came through, or 10%, or half. Nope. He claims every single one of them did. It’s brilliant.

Ian W
Reply to  DirkH
April 23, 2015 6:15 am

And Algor is an old medical term for “deathly cold”

April 22, 2015 1:35 pm

My favorite quote, not included above, is Dr. David Viner March 2000 “School children just won’t know what snow is.”
Meanwhile, the climate tipping point has been moved out to 2040.

Ursus Augustus
Reply to  wallensworth
April 22, 2015 5:15 pm

It might just be that Dr Viner didn’t actually know what snow is and it was all a terrible misunderstanding and he isn’t treally a completely self important moron.
Either that or in this huge global village there are an awful lot of idiots to keep track of.
Pethaps ‘climate science’ is just a euphamism for occupational therapy for the global village idiots.

Reply to  Ursus Augustus
April 22, 2015 7:57 pm

It might just be that Dr Viner didn’t actually know what snow is ”
“Um, I am gonna go with “Self-important lack-wit ninny who talks out of his butt-hole without thinking for three seconds about what he is saying”

Reply to  Ursus Augustus
April 23, 2015 3:14 am

Pethaps ‘climate science’ is just a euphamism for occupational therapy for the global village idiots.
Ha ha!!

Tim
Reply to  wallensworth
April 23, 2015 7:18 am

I’m confident they’ll find the tipping point. After all, the best scientists taxpayer money can buy are on the job.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Tim
April 24, 2015 1:14 pm

Well that’s not saying much, is it. If that’s all they can buy maybe we are safer than I thought.

April 22, 2015 1:35 pm

I am spraying every aerosol can I have today as my contribution.

Lil Fella of Oz
April 22, 2015 1:46 pm

Well, that sums it up perfectly. The trouble is nothing has changed, not even those voices who uttered those failed predictions.

nigelf
Reply to  Lil Fella of Oz
April 22, 2015 3:12 pm

Actually things have gotten better. India now grows enough to feed itself as do many other countries, the air and water here are cleaner and we never entered that new ice age that Kenneth Watt was banging on about.
These quotes and many others need to be spread far and wide among warmist believers who are still young to show them how similar todays doom mongers predictions are. And point out that people like John Holdren infest the Obama White House spreading their new failed predictions of warming.
When you can tie idiocy like this to names and faces of the past who have changed to warmist catastrophic babble then you can make a lot of converts back to reality.

trafamadore
Reply to  nigelf
April 22, 2015 6:34 pm

And why have they gotten better?

ferdberple
Reply to  nigelf
April 23, 2015 5:52 am

And why have they gotten better?
=========
because India has replaced dung with coal as its primary energy source.

Wayne Delbeke
Reply to  Lil Fella of Oz
April 22, 2015 8:06 pm

I’m with nifelf: Things are a lot better. I graduated with a water and pollution degree and worked in that industry for 30 years and then went to farming for another 15. Things have gotten amazingly better. I was coming in from rubbing down horses the day they landed on the moon. The technology for water and waste treatment has also advanced from horse and buggy to space technology and microchips. There is great reason for hope in the world when you look back to the predictions of 1970 and how far we have come. The politics are the same as they were 2000 years ago, but technology might save us from the useful idiots.

Paul
Reply to  Wayne Delbeke
April 23, 2015 4:47 am

“… look back to the predictions of 1970 and how far we have come”
Still no flying car. I’m thankful, Z kills

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Wayne Delbeke
April 23, 2015 9:19 am

Paul at 4:47
About that flying car —
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Small-Helicopter-Lands-on-Capitol-Grounds-299870111.html
More like a flying tricycle.

Max Roberts
April 22, 2015 1:47 pm

Why don’t these people get called to account for the stupid things that they say in public. Just what does a scientist have to do before their off-the-cuff guesses are treated with contempt rather than as wisdom?

nigelf
Reply to  Max Roberts
April 22, 2015 3:15 pm

Because the media aren’t doing their job Max. They’re pretty left of center and quite like the thought of governments taking total control over citizens and making us rubes do the things that we’re too stupid to figure out on our own.

Brute
Reply to  nigelf
April 22, 2015 5:09 pm

The “media” is doing its job perfectly. It is a business that’s paying sky-high. Consider, for example, the many, many times over millionaires Jon Stewart or Rush Limbaugh, both of them delivering exact same crap even if under different brand names.

george e. smith
Reply to  nigelf
April 22, 2015 6:00 pm

I have those problems licked Brute.
All of my radios have a useful app called “Tuning”.
I have learned how to use if to not need to listen to any of that crap you mentioned, and a whole lot of other crap besides. Or I can listen if I want to.
I’m sure you can get your radio to run the tuning app, so you can escape the crap.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  nigelf
April 22, 2015 9:21 pm

I wonder how many Pinocchios the press will give Obama for trying to scare Floridians with the rising oceans taking away their big income from tourists? (You know he knows he’s being dishonest because his natural tendency is to be against big income – not trying to promote it.)

Glenn999
Reply to  nigelf
April 23, 2015 6:18 am

Brute
I have a hard time believing you actually listen to Rush. A liberal friend got me listening to Rush a few years ago, and I catch the show when not too busy at work. I don’t know if I hear the crap you’re talking about, but I would love to be enlightened. Please feel free to elaborate. Thanks.

Brute
Reply to  nigelf
April 24, 2015 4:22 pm

e. smith
Same here.
@Glenn999
Pick any of Limbaugh’s “topics” and try to explain it here. You will find plenty of support from some commenters (i.e., those ranting about diseased Mexicans deciding US elections and how they should be “snipered”) and, hopefully, you will also see what a ridiculous man Limbaugh is.

Reply to  nigelf
April 25, 2015 10:47 am

Voters are the problem, for some reason they are suckers for negativity about humans. Factors include teaching in schools and the biased media, but ultimately voters are responsible.
From what friends tell me, I consider Rush Limbaugh to be “variable”. He does change his positions on some things, which may be a good sign. But like Ann Coulter and the disappointing Michelle Malkin he lacks a basic understanding of what made the US and like countries productive and peaceful – individual freedom supported by defense and justice systems. Thus they are control-minded, just less so than the neo-Marxists (such as Obama and most Democratic Party politicians and their hangers on like Al Sharpton).

Reply to  Max Roberts
April 22, 2015 8:01 pm

” Just what does a scientist have to do before their off-the-cuff guesses are treated with contempt ”
That’s an easy one:
Speak frankly and truthfully about the dastardly shenanigans of the warmistas, and/or try to get an honest paper on climate published.

April 22, 2015 1:48 pm

BTW For those of you, like me, who forgot when the first “Earth Day” was, it was in 1970, the same year Nixon formed the USEPA.

Martin Mayer
Reply to  Gunga Din
April 22, 2015 2:43 pm

It was Lenin’s 100 birthday. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

Reply to  Gunga Din
April 23, 2015 9:16 am

I do remember earth day 1975. The local news crew came to our school. They had us spread paper debris around the grass area in front of the school. They did their staged on-camera spiel while we walked around in the background and picked up the “garbage”. They had to do three takes because we kept moving to close to the camera as we picked up the “garbage” … we wanted to be an integral part of the show too.
Things haven’t changed. Media is still mostly lying hype. The useful idiots still want to be part of the show … I wonder how Mann got his start.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Gunga Din
April 24, 2015 1:50 pm

Back in the day there were good reasons for worrying about the environment. Many things needed cleaning up, especially city air. Polluters were shameless. That changed dramatically over the next 30 years and then there wasn’t much to chase. So things went from sublime to ridiculous. Now we have nuclear power stations emitting less radioactivity than the stones along the road and they are labelled ‘polluting’.
The social pollution now emanates from the mouths of fanatics who want to keep the funding flowing. Too bad that energy is not put into educating children and bringing clean water to slums. Something useful.

Ivor Ward
April 22, 2015 1:49 pm

Nice coal fire burning in the grate.

Tom in Florida
April 22, 2015 1:50 pm

I picked up my wife from work to have lunch today and while waiting for her to come out I kept the car running listening to the radio with the a/c on. It was a pleasant 10 minutes and I was very comfortable. You just gotta love modern technology.

Bubba Cow
Reply to  Tom in Florida
April 22, 2015 2:00 pm

I sure hope POTUS wasn’t watching.

Andrew N
Reply to  Bubba Cow
April 22, 2015 2:18 pm

Nope, he was in his nice big 747 with the engines running. Maybe even getting his [hair] cut…

Andrew N
Reply to  Bubba Cow
April 22, 2015 2:18 pm

[Mod] should be hair not har
[And if his rabbit were poorly trimmed, would you declare, ” Har, har, he hacked his hare’s hair?” .mod]

Jonas N
Reply to  Bubba Cow
April 22, 2015 3:42 pm

Andrew, that’s a 20 year old 747. Not the most fuel effective … especially not the way it has been used in recent years

Patrick
Reply to  Bubba Cow
April 23, 2015 2:23 am

It maybe a 20 year old frame, but I would suggest the engines would be fairly new and more efficient that those fitted when it was shipped from the factory.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
April 22, 2015 6:37 pm

My thermometer says that at my house in Sarasota the high was 88℉, I think that is fairly accurate. It is well sited and is fairly well confirmed by the reading at SRQ a few miles to the north.
I sit in my car quite a bit, and I will never sit in it at 88℉ without A.C. So I do that a lot.

Bubba Cow
Reply to  Tom Trevor
April 22, 2015 6:53 pm

thank you for your CO2

Reply to  Tom Trevor
April 22, 2015 8:06 pm

I heated my hot tub/spa up to 110 degrees, in case I feel like sitting in it for a few minutes before bed tonight.

Reply to  Tom Trevor
April 22, 2015 8:11 pm

At 6′ x 6′ x 3′, it is about 108 cubic feet, or nearly 900 gallons.
I leave it for everyone’s homework to calculate the magnitude of my wasteful ways, in BTUs, CO2 footprint, about of time it will take the earth to repair this assault on her ecology,and whatever other scandalous sounding metric anyone can think of.

asybot
Reply to  Tom Trevor
April 22, 2015 10:06 pm

@Menicholas, I hope you were alone in that tub, if you were there with your wife it may have led to another CO2 producing, energy wasting, food consuming (BUT very happy and well rounded ) human!

Reply to  Tom Trevor
April 25, 2015 10:50 am

Menicholas – don’t do that if you are pregnant.

taxed
April 22, 2015 1:52 pm

So Ken Watt was expecting world temps to drop 11 degrees in 30 years.
What was he expecting!, the sun to become one huge sunspot.
l don’t think it got that bad even during the YD.

climatologist
Reply to  taxed
April 23, 2015 10:36 am

Be charitable, it is difficult to forecast, especially about the future.

Bruce Hall
April 22, 2015 1:53 pm

It would have been nice to have dates associated with those quotes.

RWturner
Reply to  Bruce Hall
April 22, 2015 2:15 pm

“The first Earth Day” is a big hint.

Reply to  Bruce Hall
April 22, 2015 2:16 pm

The article clearly states the quotes were made on the “first Earth Day”, which was in 1970. Click on the iHatethemedia link for more information.

Reply to  Aphan
April 22, 2015 2:31 pm

Here’s a link to actual newspaper stories and links to the scientific organizations that “endorsed the ice age scare”. https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/1970s-ice-age-scare/

Louis
Reply to  Aphan
April 22, 2015 4:00 pm

The article did not clearly state the quotes were made in 1970. It would have been nice if it had because I had no idea when the first Earth Day happened, nor do I care.

Reply to  Aphan
April 22, 2015 8:17 pm

The first Earth Day was held on the 100th anniversary of the birthday of Vladimir Lenin (who, by the way, had the same one word slogan as the Obama campaign…FORWARD.)
Decide for yourself if you believe that this was an unintended coincidence.

John West
Reply to  Bruce Hall
April 22, 2015 2:20 pm

“here are a few of the predictions made on the first Earth Day”
4/22/1970

Reply to  John West
April 22, 2015 2:37 pm

The head post would be improved if it said

a few of the predictions made on or about the first Earth Day, April 22, 1970. — 45 years ago

It is amazing some of these geniuses are still around and listened to by some.

During a 2004 interview, Ehrlich answered questions about the predictions he made in The Population Bomb. He acknowledged that some of what he had written had not “come to pass”, but reaffirmed his basic view that over-population is a major problem. He noted that, “Fifty-eight academies of science said that same thing in 1994, as did the world scientists’ warning to humanity in the same year. My view has become depressingly mainline!”[17] – Wikipedia: Paul Ehrlich

‘ Guess there was a consensus on that, too.

Tom J
April 22, 2015 1:54 pm

To be honest I vastly prefer Andy Warhol’s tomato soup can.

Steve P
Reply to  Tom J
April 22, 2015 8:12 pm

Your vast preferences notwithstanding, Warhol was a hack artist with connections but no talent. Picasso at least had talent. He also had the honesty in a few candid moments to admit that he was a charlatan:

“I am only a public clown, a mountebank. I have understood my time and have exploited the imbecility, the vanity and the greed of my contemporaries.”
“It is a bitter confession, this confession of mine, more painful than it may seem, but at least and at last it does have the merit of being honest.”
–Pablo Picasso

http://www.vinearts.org/picasso.html
Warhol’s sketches:
https://www.google.com/search?q=warhol%27s+sketches&rlz=1C1BLWB_enUS555US556&es_sm=122&biw=1152&bih=653&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=BmA4VbavIcOrogTMjYDwDw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
Most, perhaps all of Warhol’s famous work is graphic art – silk-screened photographs in wild colors, but at least there was something to see, unlike Pollock’s dribbles.
At first blush this might seem way off topic, but the direct connections are fraud, and mind-bending.
And if the guys downstream can talk about .50s, I guess I can slip in a word or two about art.
-☺-

Marty
Reply to  Steve P
April 23, 2015 1:11 pm

There is a direct connection between the fraud of so-called artists like Picasso and Warhol and this fraud of global warming. The common thread is that we have a generation of well-off but basically ignorant and credulous people who were sent to expensive colleges and then inherited corporate, university and government leadership positions. They were never taught critical thinking. Maybe in another age most of them would never have gone to college. Instead of thinking for themselves their guide in life is whether it is cool, whether it is popular, and what do the “high preists” in the field say. If the art critics tell them that an obvious fraud like Picasso is great art they go along with it. If the corrupted scientist tells them its never going to snow again they bray with the other asses.

Goldrider
April 22, 2015 1:54 pm

The right question to ask is why people keep listening to them.

rah
Reply to  Goldrider
April 22, 2015 2:49 pm

Because they WANT to? I’ve come to the conclusion that about 25% of the people on this earth are miserable because they WANT to be. And they make it their mission in life to make the rest of us miserable. Laugh at their sorry asses and don’t let them do it.

JCR
Reply to  rah
April 22, 2015 4:49 pm

Because it seems to be a hard wired trait that humans crave certainty about the future, so they’ll listen to anyone touted as an expert. I recommend Dan Gardner’s “Future Babble” for a layman’s summary of the work of Phillip Tetlock. Tetlock tracked the predictions of over 200 experts over a period of more than 20 years. He found that while experts may know a lot about their field as it is now (that’s why they’re experts), when it comes to making predictions about the future, you’d be just as well off with a dart-throwing chimp.

rah
Reply to  rah
April 23, 2015 4:01 am

JCR says:
“Because it seems to be a hard wired trait that humans crave certainty about the future, so they’ll listen to anyone touted as an expert.”
If that were the case then those people would greet predictions bright future and healthy environment/climate with good cheer. They don’t! They only want to hear and believe predictions of disaster.
They’re miserable wretches.

Dave N
Reply to  Goldrider
April 22, 2015 3:06 pm

Because many suffer from the “listen to anyone who says we’re causing our own demise, no matter how wrong they end up being” syndrome; the key being that the doomsayer is projecting an image of: “we have to save the planet from ourselves”. As long as they keep doing that, it doesn’t matter how wrong they are, they’ll still receive attention.
They’d make P. T. Barnum proud.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  Dave N
April 22, 2015 5:44 pm

Agree, Dave. That is why Hollywood is so radically leftist (i.e.) green. They crave even more attention.

Christopher Paino
April 22, 2015 1:55 pm

I don’t know if there is a general discussion board around here, but I’ve always wondered why I don’t see the people who post their findings here in places other than these types of blogs? I would love to see the great folks who post all the myriad charts and data on this site jump in over at CNN and respond to John Sutter’s request to vote on the first story he’ll report on in his new series, “2 Degrees” by deluging the discussion with good answers that include references and data to people there who still bring up the “97%”.
I would do it myself, but I’d just get it all wrong and make things worse.

DirkH
Reply to  Christopher Paino
April 22, 2015 2:06 pm

Well I don’t know about CNN but here in Germany, the important media like Der Spiegel censor relentlessly. So it’s not much use. They have a quickly diminishing horde of believers left over there, and even those start to correct the stupid alarmism of the Spiegel Mitarbeiter collective now. Just a few days ago they reported that – shock, horror – California will start desalination now to provide water. Journalist tried his best to make that sound catastrophic because desalination costs energy and we can’t have that now can we and the water will cost 15 cents a cubic meter!
To which the remaining commenters said, but that’s pretty cheap, here in Bremen it costs 1.99 EUR a cubic meter, so what’s not to like. And I mean, Bremen, that city and its residents are as leftist as the Khmer Rouge. Still – remnants of common sense even there!

Christopher Paino
Reply to  DirkH
April 22, 2015 2:13 pm

Is Bremen really like that? I’m sad to hear that. They have some beautiful music venues there and I have many wonderful live concerts in my collection that were recorded in Bremen. I have always wanted to visit just because of that!
Back to the CNN topic… the video that’s attached to Sutter’s article is unbelievably alarmist. And I think I just saw the Hockey Stick!

Hugh
Reply to  DirkH
April 22, 2015 9:55 pm

Helsinki, Finland: €2.42/cubic meter. About half of that is earmarked to sewage water handling.
To put that on map, it’s $3194/acre-feet.
Finland is very resourceful what comes to clean raw water.

Kalifornia Kook
Reply to  DirkH
April 24, 2015 1:01 pm

I think you slipped the digit. The only article I found (http://panteres.com/2015/04/14/seawater-desalination-to-alleviate-drought-in-california/) indicated the cost would be $1.60 more per cubic meter. Still less than Bremen or Helsinki, but that puts the price of water between Tier 3 ($1.44/cu meter) and Tier 4 ($2.26/cu meter) in my district (IRWD). That pricing includes the pumping surcharge, but not the sewer or service fees, which are fixed.
At $0.15/cu meter, it would be a steal!

Reply to  Christopher Paino
April 22, 2015 2:19 pm

Christopher…most of the time when people DO post those charts and links to WUWT or other sites that include skeptical data, their posts get deleted or their accounts get blocked. There really isn’t any kind of “free speech” at some sites anymore, unless you agree with what is being said.

trafamadore
Reply to  Aphan
April 22, 2015 6:35 pm

True indeed.

Reply to  Aphan
April 22, 2015 8:37 pm

” but I’ve always wondered why I don’t see the people who post their findings here in places other than these types of blogs?”
I do it fairly often. In fact I spent lots of time arguing droves of them (warmistas) to a standstill on multiple sites several years ago. But I got sick of it, and had to stop commenting online at all, except to people I know, on social media.
But recently I got the bug again, and found this site. I followed links to Tony Heller’s and Paul Homewood’s blogs when I got wind of the “altered” historical climate data, and that was and is it for me.
It all snapped into focus. For a long time I knew something was very fishy, but I could not put my finger on it. I knew that that hockey stick crap was pure BS the second I saw it, but I really did not understand how the data was being so corrupted. I knew it was, but not how.
I had figured it was mostly insufficient UHI corrections, and discrepancy with the old recording equipment and the new stuff that came online in1995 or so.
Now my blood boils when I consider the depth and scope of the lies being foisted off on us all.
I knew that CAGW was wrong, but I balked at calling it a sc@m, ho@x, or outright fraud.
It is now clear that is exactly what it has become, even if it started out as well meaning but incorrect theorizing. Even that is looking less likely for at least some of these guys.

RWturner
Reply to  Christopher Paino
April 22, 2015 2:19 pm

Why? Mark Twain summed it up well:
“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

Christopher Paino
Reply to  RWturner
April 22, 2015 2:46 pm

Yeah… {sigh}… I dig.

Reply to  RWturner
April 22, 2015 8:44 pm

RT Turner
“Why”
Because the general populace is being mushroomed, that is why.
It is too serious.
The endgame for the alarmists is not fun and games.
It is more than an argument.
It is a national scandal, and theft and deception on a scale which is downright scary.

Reply to  Christopher Paino
April 25, 2015 10:52 am

Paino – It’s called Tips & Notes, in the menu line.

PaulH
April 22, 2015 1:56 pm

I remember as a schoolboy, in 1970 or so, being herded into the school gym to watch a film that told us that in 15 years the water would be so polluted there would nothing to drink and the air would be so polluted there would be nothing to breathe. These “experts” don’t actually “know” ANYTHING.

Reply to  PaulH
April 22, 2015 2:56 pm

That’s why they work to make sure the next generation knows even less.

Chris
Reply to  PaulH
April 24, 2015 3:00 am

And don’t forget in the mid to late 70’s a group of ’eminent’ scientists created a world wide warning that pollution (meaning a more real type of pollution) was increasing to the level that it was now blocking out the sunlight and heat reaching the earth. This was going to cause dramatic temperature DECREASES and eventually initiate the next ice age.
Where they wrong or, are the current AGW scientists wrong? Likely they are all wrong. Again!

charles stegiel
April 22, 2015 1:58 pm

In the end truth arises like a flower, but man needs lies, not truth, for in truth the lie is more profitable.

Steve
April 22, 2015 1:59 pm

Happy Earth Day
I think I’ll cook up some polar bear steaks on my charcoal grill. However, since it’s so cold here in Northern Indiana (42 degrees ) I’ll have to sit in my SUV with the engine and heater running.
/sarc

u.k.(us)
April 22, 2015 1:59 pm

Look, when the death of a Twinkie has been confirmed, I’ll change my cuisine.
Till then, I’ll just enjoy. 😉

SMC
Reply to  u.k.(us)
April 22, 2015 3:31 pm

Twinkies were on life support not all that long ago… you may want to have an alternative plan… just in case.

u.k.(us)
Reply to  SMC
April 22, 2015 3:57 pm

Just say’n and playing but… per:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2015/04/15/twinkie-billion-dollar-comeback-hostess-metropoulos-apollo-jhawar/
“…The new factory is bright and clean. Tight rows of Twinkies march along the $20 million Auto Bake system with the precision of Soviet soldiers in a May Day parade. Yellow robotic arms, which look like they should be welding Teslas rather than boxing Twinkies, stack snacks with hypnotic rhythm.”
They ain’t dead yet 🙂

SMC
Reply to  SMC
April 22, 2015 4:31 pm
Reply to  SMC
April 22, 2015 7:08 pm

But they don’t taste the same.

Chip Javert
Reply to  SMC
April 22, 2015 7:58 pm

Problem wasn’t with Twinkies (by which I mean market demand for the thing called Twinkie), it was with the union truck drivers delivering the things to the store.

Adam from Kansas
April 22, 2015 1:59 pm

CNN needs your help in choosing what story about climate catastrophe to report first
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/21/opinions/sutter-climate-two-degrees/index.html
They have videos and front page graphics with big fonts and everything, trying to make it as scary as possible.
Now it shouldn’t be construed as being against taking care of nature (in a sense of traditional environmentalism without the extreme elements), but more like keeping ecosystems healthy, clamping down on the type of emissions that produce pea-soup smog and black rivers and, yes, raise the atmospheric CO2 level.

ConfusedPhoton
April 22, 2015 2:03 pm

Let us not forget chief UK alarmist Myles Allen
“Myles Allen first hit the headlines when a research project that he was involved with issued a press release (26th Jan 2005) predicting that temperatures could rise by 11° C even if the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is limited to only double the level before the Industrial Revolution.”
http://ccgi.newbery1.plus.com/blog/?p=81
The first of many naff prediction by Prof Allen! No wonder he appears so often on the BBC!

Latitude
April 22, 2015 2:06 pm

“If present trends continue”….well, at least, thank God…..science has progressed past this

Latitude
Reply to  Latitude
April 22, 2015 2:26 pm

NOT!

April 22, 2015 2:09 pm

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John

Kev-in-Uk
April 22, 2015 2:13 pm

Wow. This Ken Watt character has surely disappeared into the woodwork by now? Jeez, with such a predictive track record he must surely be unemployed? It’s ok to be wrong – but to shout loudly about it, then reverse tack completely, and STILL be completely wrong surely demonstrates the (in)competence of a complete Bozo IMHO!
Ok, I guess he must be a science nobody in the big scheme of things, but even so, to call or even consider oneself a scientist with such a track record is like extremely serious FACEPALM material?

Reply to  Kev-in-Uk
April 22, 2015 2:23 pm

Professor emeritus, U.C. Davis. Still has an office and phone number listed. Imagine all the students he damaged/indoctrinated.

Reply to  Kev-in-Uk
April 22, 2015 2:58 pm

But, Physics. I mean, and then there’s physics, right?

Leonard Lane
Reply to  Kev-in-Uk
April 22, 2015 5:55 pm

When I first entered the University in the early 60s, if you were an idler or just needed a couple of A’s to graduate you would run to the sociology and psychology depts. and register for several classes. No work to do and almost everyone got an A or B.
Nowadays, I understand you would run to environmental science and then to sociology. In psychology you might have to calculate a mean and know the definition of a median. Too hard.

Chip Javert
Reply to  Leonard Lane
April 22, 2015 8:01 pm

Leonard
Congratulations. You are the first human being on the planet to accuse psychologists of understanding anything about statistics.

Reply to  Leonard Lane
April 22, 2015 9:00 pm

Interestingly, when I studied physical geography, meteorology, and climatology in college, these classes were in the same college as behavioral sciences.
The general distribution requirements for a degree in either of them were not the requirements for a science degree.
I had already taken so many classes in other branches of natural sciences and math that a lot of the credits I had would be worthless for a degree in meteorology or climatology. The people in those majors did not need to take calculus, let alone engineering calc. Or physics. Or chemistry. Or geology. Nope. Statistics, and the GDRs for a social science degree.
That did not change until relatively recently.
(I was not about to take a degree that was not from the College of Natural Science, so I had to move along…those classes became electives)

Reply to  Leonard Lane
April 22, 2015 9:05 pm

BTW, I do not recall taking a single class that did not take hard work and a lot of studying.
Even Phys Ed classes like tennis or water skiing was no gimme.
Are you seriously saying that at California state universities, you could get an A without doing hard work and knowing some at least SOMETHING inside out?

April 22, 2015 2:14 pm

“Failed Earth Day Predictions” ~ title of post
If you use honest data (real raw data, and not output from computer games) we would be hard pressed to find any prediction that the alarmists have made that has come true. I can not think of one off the top of my head.
I will say that the alarmists of the 70’s who warned of a new “ice age” (we are in one now are we not?) were more believable because this interglacial is old enough to have run its course. Perhaps in a century or two we will see much colder temperatures. But it will not be because of mankind’s industrial output.
Religious types (like today’s alarmists) have always screamed that the gods are mad as hell because of mankind’s “sinful ways” and will zap our behinds with bad weather. Today’s climate “scientists” are no better than the witch-doctor of old.

Bryan A
Reply to  markstoval
April 22, 2015 2:44 pm

If we go into a new Ice Age after the next 200 years or so, and it is after the Oil has diminished to unusable levels, It will still be touted as Proof of the CO2-Fossil Fuel_ Global Climate Change meme was correct all along…
See, We told you so…No more Fossil Fuel use, No more Global Warming, It’s all Global Cooling from here on out

Power Grab
Reply to  markstoval
April 23, 2015 12:06 pm

I agree. I always think of the same thing: It’s as old as so-called “civilization”. The folks in power try to claim power over weather to keep their power and to punish those who would threaten to take it from them.
In Mark Twain’s “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court”, a similar situation is presented. In that situation, knowledge of a coming solar eclipse was used to prevent execution of one of the protagonists.

RCM
April 22, 2015 2:14 pm

I don’t know if predictions of doom are a universal thing, or a largely Christian phenomena but they’ve been pretty popular historically. However -this time our priests, er, sorry Scientists know what they’re talking about. They have learned a lot since 1970, honest! We’re really screwed this time, and (just like last time) it’s YOUR fault,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

Latitude
Reply to  RCM
April 22, 2015 2:31 pm

Christian??…….Islam calls it eschatology……”The Muslim Jesus descends and converts the world to Islam, kills the Jews, breaks crosses, declares himself a Muslim and gets married. He dies after 40-years”

u.k.(us)
Reply to  Latitude
April 22, 2015 2:58 pm

With all do respect…or even none.
Is that topical for this thread ?

u.k.(us)
Reply to  Latitude
April 22, 2015 3:12 pm

“do” s/b “due”.
So chop my head off.

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