Failed climate predictions gets a website

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From climatechangepredictions.org, where the proprietor writes:

I’ve started a website with the idea of making it entertaining as well as informative.  The website presents global warming predictions that have been made over the past 40 or so years, especially predictions that are either contradictory or alternatively plainly ridiculous and thus amusing.

From the About Page:

Whatever your opinion, climate change is one of the most prominent issues of the times.

It relates to the well being of the planet and its occupants. At the same time it incurs the expenditure of billions of dollars and much of it comes from public money.

We are a small group who have followed the global warming/ climate change issue for some years. Initially we didn’t know which version was correct but we noticed several things. One was the frequent use of predictions, often scary, that seemed on the surface to be believable. We wondered whether anyone ever went back to see if the predictions turned out to be true.

This blog presents predictions that have been made over the past 40 years or so and we leave it to you to make up your own mind about them.

The blog commenced towards the end of 2014 and as it develops we will be continually adding new material and making changes to the layout. At present we plan to add about half a dozen new posts each week.

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Tony
February 10, 2015 12:06 am
Reply to  Tony
February 10, 2015 12:09 am

Darn. Your correction came in before I hit the Post button. Missed my chance to be first.

RoHa
Reply to  Tony
February 10, 2015 3:18 pm
Mike Jowsey
Reply to  RoHa
February 10, 2015 10:07 pm
policycritic
Reply to  RoHa
February 11, 2015 1:09 am

Needs source links.

February 10, 2015 12:07 am

Missing c in the middle, should be climatechangepredictions.org.

jean
February 10, 2015 12:10 am
AndyG55
February 10, 2015 12:14 am

Seriously ??????
Man, I hope have one heck of a lot of web allocation !!! 🙂

Charlie
February 10, 2015 12:17 am

Googling ‘warmlist’ gives you a huge and more concise version!

Monte
February 10, 2015 12:30 am

Plenty of material here (although not up to date). http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

Jimbo
Reply to  Monte
February 10, 2015 5:35 am

Not necessary fail but eye opening claims. There are so many failed claims it’s difficult to know where to start. The following dedicated page has been at it for years and is the best so far. How many more years does the IPCC require before it raises the red flag?
C3: Failed Predictions: Model/Human
http://www.c3headlines.com/predictionsforecasts/
Some more
http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/tag/predictions-that-failed/
This list of fail from the climastrologists focuses on warmer northern hemisphere winters and less snow.
http://notrickszone.com/2013/04/04/climate-science-humiliated-earlier-model-prognoses-of-warmer-winters-now-todays-laughingstocks/#sthash.p0T72kwJ.dpbs
This list means everything to everyone. Warmist or sceptic created by me.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/03/the-big-self-parodying-climate-change-blame-list/

Reply to  Jimbo
February 10, 2015 10:13 am

“How many more years does the IPCC require before it raises the red flag?”
They have been raising the red flag for years. That is the entire point of this scam, to bring us all under one big red flag.

Jimbo
Reply to  Monte
February 10, 2015 5:43 am

There is one small issue with this new site. The first 5 pages I have taken a look at don’t link to the original source or other source. They will be accused over time of making stuff up. Image captures should be considered.
The new site should also take advantage of http://archive.today in case pages go astray. 😉 Another place worth looking at (not always apparent in general search engines) are the newspaper archives and scholar. i often retrieve ‘disappeared’ pages on the Wayback Machine.

Mike Jowsey
Reply to  Jimbo
February 10, 2015 10:11 pm

I agree with your first point at least.

Jimbo
Reply to  alexwade
February 10, 2015 10:27 am

That list is from the Warm List already mentioned above.

Village Idiot
February 10, 2015 1:02 am

For reasons of balance all the failed cooling predictions ought to be included, too 🙂
For example: http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/reprint/multidecadal_tendencies.html

Jimbo
Reply to  Village Idiot
February 10, 2015 5:49 am

Village, it really does not matter what sceptics fail to do. We are not planning for the global re-organisations of the world’s energy infrastructure AND we were content that the climate changes. Warmist were not.

Reply to  Village Idiot
February 10, 2015 9:52 am

Also, Jimbo, what alarmist blog tries to be ‘balanced’? That’s what skeptics do. Alarmists emit one-sided propaganda.

Reply to  Village Idiot
February 10, 2015 2:06 pm

Another also.
The predictions that contradict each other.
If I bet that #1 will score more points but my buddy bets on #2, does that mean either of us is an expert on the sport? No.
It’s not uncommon in this or any other PR game for opposing outcomes from a cause or event to be predicted.
Whichever prediction is closest to the actual outcome is heralded as “proof” of “the cause” and the justification for continuing in the desired political direction.
You don’t agree?
What did Hansen say would happen if CO2 increased?
Did it?
Who still supports the Hockey Stick, other than out some sense of obligation or defending Mann to prevent embarrassment to “the cause”?

Stephen Richards
February 10, 2015 1:21 am

This is not an easy thing to do well. Bon courage !!

Brute
February 10, 2015 1:28 am

Is there a list of the predictions that have come true? One would think that at least some must have since so many, often contradictory, predictions have been made.
Could the resident warmists please respond?

ConTrari
Reply to  Brute
February 10, 2015 1:54 am

No need, all their predictions will come true, this has been voted over and decided with a 97% majority.

asybot
Reply to  ConTrari
February 10, 2015 3:20 am

And don’t forget the science is settled.

GeeJam
Reply to  Brute
February 10, 2015 4:45 am

Sorry Brute, they’re still all too busy posting alarming comments over at The Telegraph. Sunday’s excellent article by Christopher Booker is just short of 22,000 comments. The post has got legs, way to go Chris!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html

JohnWho
Reply to  Brute
February 10, 2015 5:57 am

Predictions that are/were true?
Well, there is that one that said, “the climate would change”.

RoHa
Reply to  JohnWho
February 10, 2015 3:22 pm

And, as I pointed out elsewhere on WUWT, the warmists predicted that England would have the climate of Southern Spain. If current trends continue, this will be true. Southern Spain is damned cold at the moment.

Jimbo
Reply to  Brute
February 10, 2015 5:57 am

In 3 years time IPCC would be 30 years old. Interestingly the one failure which Warmists like to point to about the IPCC is the failure to project the observed rate of Arctic sea ice extent decline (now stuttering). Wadhams was like a man on meth, raging and frothing at the mouth about this. He has gone relatively quiet this year and changed his ‘ice-free’ prediction. Otherwise I cannot find a single correct prediction from the IPCC. [Please on one point me to weather events and speculative drivel].

Jimbo
Reply to  Jimbo
February 10, 2015 6:01 am

Correction:
[Please no one point me to weather events and speculative drivel].

Reply to  Jimbo
February 10, 2015 10:04 am

They correctly predicted their funding would increase if they made things sound scary.

Jimbo
Reply to  Jimbo
February 10, 2015 10:42 am

talldave2
February 10, 2015 at 10:04 am
They correctly predicted their funding would increase if they made things sound scary.

So scary they took oil money too. LOL.

9 February 2015
Long List Of Warmist Organizations, Scientists Haul In Huge Money From BIG OIL And Heavy Industry!
http://notrickszone.com/2015/02/09/long-list-of-warmist-organizations-scientists-haul-in-huge-money-from-big-oil-and-heavy-industry/#sthash.8c5odTJ2.YQAYFHoK.dpbs
July 9, 2013
200 Climate Campaign Groups All Funded by a Single Source: The Rockefeller Brothers
http://fair-questions.com/post-4/
http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/

This is just the know tip of the ice-berg.

ROM
Reply to  Jimbo
February 10, 2015 2:55 pm

Over the last year or so I have asked this following question a couple of times on WUWT, a couple of times on Judith Curry’s “Climate Etc”where I would have expected a sure fire answer.
And a couple of times on “Jo Nova’s” site.
The only answer I have so far received that is relevant is “it sells newspapers”.
Question;
After 25 years of very expensive, ever expansive publicly funded climate research, could somebody somewhere please point out one single example where Climate Science as currently practiced has been of ANY visible, perceivable and useful and useable and proven benefit at any level to our national and global societies and industries ?

Jimbo
Reply to  Brute
February 10, 2015 11:30 am

Children won’t know what snow is. Even if we have to force them. Oh dear Mr. Viner.

Daily Mail – 9 February 2015
The school where snow is BANNED: Primary banned pupils from going outside and closed blinds so they couldn’t watch it fall
When snow began to fall gently around their primary school, pupils were naturally excited.
But their joy quickly melted away when their teachers banned them from going near it – or even looking at it through the window……………The school – where a vicar caused uproar before Christmas by telling pupils that Santa Claus doesn’t exist…

Admin
February 10, 2015 1:33 am

I fixed the link guys. I noticed it too.

robinedwards36
February 10, 2015 1:53 am

This will a blog that I shall follow with great interest.

ConTrari
February 10, 2015 1:55 am

Great blog, what I miss though is links to the quoted predictions, not just references, and also some comments on each case.

Phil Ford
Reply to  ConTrari
February 10, 2015 2:19 am

Yep – having links to the excerpts quoted would be good. Bit I like the site – especially where we see two stories like ‘Less Coral Reefs’ and ‘More Coral Reefs’ next to each other, perfectly illustrating the absolute nonsense of all and any such doomsday CAGW claims. The site is well worth a visit.

Reply to  Phil Ford
February 10, 2015 5:37 am

I agree. The “have it both ways” section is the best. The contradictions are hilarious.

Jerker Andersson
February 10, 2015 2:25 am

In order for the site to be both amusing and informative, not only faulty predictions must be presented. All science contain errors. They key question is how many of the predictions that are right or wrong and if we got the tools needed to verify the predictions.

February 10, 2015 2:43 am

Thanks for the link to the new site.
The fact that the alarmists have been consistantly wrong on all their predictions for decades should tell the rational human that they don’t know what they are talking about. They are wrong. Their theories have failed. Alas, modern grant-seekers love propaganda more than truth it looks like.
While it is not a welcome opinion here, I think the evidence is overwhelming that CO2 has no net warming effect at all. I further think that today’s climate “science” really does not have a clue as to how our climate really works. It is a science that is young and just begining its journey toward predictive knowlege.

February 10, 2015 2:43 am

I commend your efforts and will support your site, however, if your aim is to be entertaining as well as informative, you may have to do better than just the “written word” to capture the attention of the under 30’s. I work in retail and we have a philosophy re attracting customers. Want, need, and “shiny things”. You are indeed missing some big shiny things on your site. May I suggest pictures, video, and or cartoons, and plenty of satire? Look forward to seeing more. Ps here is what one on my under 30 friends thinks is amusing re CC. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=589383337864930&pnref=story. Good luck.
As always, our future lies with the young.

Reply to  justthefacts62
February 10, 2015 3:00 am

“As always, our future lies with the young.”
Now that is depressing. 🙁

PeterD
Reply to  markstoval
February 10, 2015 3:04 am

Our future may be with the young, but their future is with us. I’m not in much of a mood to be merciful.

asybot
Reply to  markstoval
February 10, 2015 3:07 am

Come on Mark watch the vid it IS funny and there is hope in that alone!

Reply to  markstoval
February 10, 2015 5:52 am

I have not yet lost faith. Not all kids have been indoctrinated. Not all indoctrinated kids will remain indoctrinated. Youthful rebellion might just save Western prosperity and Liberty.
I think that’s happened before.

asybot
Reply to  justthefacts62
February 10, 2015 3:05 am

Thanks just, thank god for that kind of humor we all need a laugh!

old construction worker
February 10, 2015 3:17 am

The sad part. Most of the studies were probably paid for by fleecing tax payers.

MikeB
February 10, 2015 3:53 am

I like it.
Also how about North Atlantic becoming less salty

“Since the late 1960s, much of the North Atlantic Ocean has become less salty, in part due to increases in fresh water runoff induced by global warming, scientists say.”

-Michael Schirber, LiveScience, June 29, 2005
….and also the North Atlantic becoming more salty…

“The surface waters of the North Atlantic are getting saltier, suggests a new study of records spanning over 50 years. They found that during this time, the layer of water that makes up the top 400 metres has gradually become saltier. The seawater is probably becoming saltier due to global warming, Boyer says”.

– Catherine Brahic, New Scientist, August 23, 2007
Both from Jimbo at
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/03/the-big-self-parodying-climate-change-blame-list/#more-37187
Also…
Global warming ‘will make our winters colder, Independent 27 OCT 2014
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/global-warming-will-make-our-winters-colder-9819825.html
..and at the same time…
Global Warming Will Lead to Warmer Winters, Study Says
Guardian Liberty Voice 26Oct2014
http://guardianlv.com/2014/10/global-warming-will-lead-to-warmer-winters-study-says/#vtSWTChi8xARKBqH.99
It looks that they can’t lose.

Dr. Richard Rounds
Reply to  MikeB
February 10, 2015 9:47 am

There must be pages worth of material from the ski industry!

Jimbo
Reply to  Dr. Richard Rounds
February 10, 2015 11:08 am

Dr. Richard Rounds
February 10, 2015 at 9:47 am
There must be pages worth of material from the ski industry!

Some predictions have yet to pan out, but in the meantime they tell us more snow is caused by global warming too.

NTZ – April 2013
Climate Science Humiliated…Earlier Model Prognoses Of Warmer Winters Now Today’s Laughingstocks
…….
58. “With the pace of global warming increasing, some climate change experts predict that the Scottish ski industry will cease to exist within 20 years.”
Guardian, 14 February 2004
59. “Unfortunately, it’s just getting too hot for the Scottish ski industry.”
David Viner, Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, 14 Feb 2004
…….
[comments]
Richard North has a hilarious overview of BBC reports on the Scottish skiing industry: “Climate change: ski-tastrophe deferred.”
http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=83797

Here is something from the paper that told us snowfalls are now just a thing of the past.
Indpendent – 20 January, 2015
Great conditions in Scotland, Scandinavia and Canada: Snow report “

Gareth Phillips
February 10, 2015 4:05 am

It may be interesting to have a website illustrating the predictions which have been proved correct to ensure we have a balanced debate in an area bedevilled with bias on one side or the other.

Tim in Florida
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
February 10, 2015 4:27 am

Please provide an example of a correct warmist prediction or verified proof that is not a model or manipulated data.

MikeB
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
February 10, 2015 4:32 am

Fair enough Gareth, I wouldn’t argue with that, but it’s not going to be a big site is it? Perhaps a blank page?
I don’t know about you, but I can’t think of anything of significance that they have actually got right. The global warming scare took hold during a period when the world was warming at the end of the 20th century. So that’s not a prediction, more an acknowledgement of what was already happening. Before that, when the world was cooling, a new ice age was predicted.
The ‘pause’ in warming after 1998 was not predicted either, on the contrary, warming was supposed to accelerate.comment image

Reply to  Gareth Phillips
February 10, 2015 5:44 am

If one is to participate in a “balanced debate” where the topic is tautological, then both sides will always be correct and there can be no debate.

Jimbo
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
February 10, 2015 11:14 am

Gareth, have noticed how EASY it is to list their failures – lots and lots of examples. Yet Warmists have to struggle to find a handful. THERE IS YOUR HINT MY FRIEND. Come to the sceptic side. You will feel liberated.

timg56
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
February 10, 2015 1:38 pm

It would, were there any to post.

Jimbo
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
February 11, 2015 3:29 am

Gareth Phillips
February 10, 2015 at 4:05 am
It may be interesting to have a website illustrating the predictions which have been proved correct to ensure we have a balanced debate in an area bedevilled with bias on one side or the other.

Without knowing it Gareth has just exposed the underbelly of CAGW. I want to see a list of observed predictions that CAGW has got right that is not contradicted by an earlier prediction. For example colder winters has been contradicted by the earlier warmer winter predictions. Yeah, I know that scientific theories can change but CAGW will claim victory if we get warmer winters too!!!! Climastrology at it’s finest.

MikeB
February 10, 2015 4:06 am

Climate change will ‘CAUSE huge increase in MURDER, ROBBERY and RAPE’

Between 2010 and 2099, climate change will cause an additional 22,000 murders, 180,000 cases of rape, 1.2 million aggravated assaults, 2.3 million simple assaults, 260,000 robberies, 1.3 million burglaries, 2.2 million cases of larceny, and 580,000 cases of vehicle theft in the United States.

Journal of Environmental Economics and Management.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/24/climate_change_will_cause_huge_increase_in_murder_robbery_and_rape/
By the way, climate change also causes prostitution
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/01/climate_change_causes_prostitution/
Is there anything bad it doesn’t cause?

Reply to  MikeB
February 10, 2015 5:40 am

“Global Warming stole my car”
That’s rich.

PiperPaul
Reply to  RobRoy
February 10, 2015 10:24 am

Global warming causes psychological damage. Or is it the other way around?

CaligulaJones
Reply to  MikeB
February 10, 2015 9:00 am

Here in Canada, the government-run CBC doesn’t believe the number of rapes are falling, and blames it on undereporting. Maybe the victims are too worried about climate change to report?

Bloke down the pub
February 10, 2015 4:06 am

If they add in the earlier failed predictions, often from the same culprits, about global cooling then they’ll have a job for life.

John M Reynolds
February 10, 2015 4:10 am

Sounds a lot like Tony’s http://climatedenier.me/

Hugh
Reply to  John M Reynolds
February 10, 2015 6:08 am

Awfully entertaning, if you don’t think how many have been believing that stuff. I was as stupid as willing to pay Al Gore some money to see his movie.
No more ‘trust me’. Show me.

sherlock1
February 10, 2015 4:49 am

Along with the South Sea Bubble and Tulip Futures, this period will be reviewed by historians as the Great Green Global Warming Scam…

hunter
February 10, 2015 5:28 am

Pointing out that climate hypesters are wrong in every prediction they make somehow makes no impact on the true believers. It is similar to Brian Williams: People have been pointing out that he was dishonest for years. But they were not the “right” people to listen to on that topic.

Alan Robertson
February 10, 2015 6:31 am

Just went to a “progressive” relative’s birthday party and mentioned that coffee was on sale at 2 different stores. I was promptly told that the price would soon jump because Global Warming was causing a disease outbreak on coffee plantations, thus wreaking havoc on “fair trade” coffee system, inflating prices. I made a mild statement of doubt and the yelling commenced… ugly scene.
Some people are just in your life.

PiperPaul
Reply to  Alan Robertson
February 10, 2015 10:30 am

“Yelling commenced.” Some emotionally-invested people just insist that you join them in their delusions or else, boy, you’ll be sorry!

Aicha Wallaby
Reply to  Alan Robertson
February 11, 2015 1:13 pm

Tell him to put his money where his mouth is: second mortgage on the house, put it all in coffee futures. He’ll be rich, rich I tell ya

RH
February 10, 2015 7:03 am

How about a category for disappearing polar sea ice?