Opinion by Dr Tim Ball
Free speech is essential to freedom, but with it comes a level of personal responsibility. Supposedly, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes recognized this in his observations about shouting “fire” in a crowded theatre. People assume this meant you can’t do it, but his original comment included the critical word, “falsely”. In the US, your right to shout fire is part of free speech, but Holmes argued that you couldn’t shout fire, if it is false. The trouble is, who decides it is false and once it is said, the damage is done. The question then becomes accountability. Both the need for personal responsibility in confirming there is a fire, and being held accountable, when it is determined there was no fire, and you did not check with a modicum of due diligence. What if you shout fire in a supposedly crowded world?
Who holds the person accountable and how is it done? Lack of accountability is of great public concern. It was an issue raised by engineer Pierre Latour at the recent Heartland Climate Conference. It involved a debate over the difference of opinion between engineers and theoretical physicists using physics in the science of CO2. He said engineers have to belong to a professional organization in order to practice and are legally and professionally liable for their work, unlike many others using physics, including climate scientists.
Only the US makes free speech number one in their Constitution. Some deride the fact that the Founding Fathers made the right to bear arms the second guarantee, to defend the first guarantee. However, it recognized the reality that the greatest threat to the people was their own government. This threat also applies to those who seek total government control through any form of totalitarianism. H L Mencken said decades ago, “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” Change the word “humanity” to “planet” and it is equally true today about exploitation of environmentalism for a political agenda.
Vaclav Klaus, in his prescient book Blue Planet in Green Shackles wrote,
“Environmentalism is a political movement that originally began with the intent to protect the environment – a humble and perhaps even legitimate goal – but which has gradually transformed itself into an ideology that has almost nothing to do with nature.
This ideological stream has recently become a dominant alternative to those ideologies that are consistently and primarily oriented towards freedom. Environmentalism is a movement that intends to change the world radically regardless of the consequences (at the cost of human lives and severe restrictions on individual freedom). It intends to change humankind, human behavior, the structure of society, the system of values – simply everything.”
These are the same criticism Patrick Moore, co-founder of Greenpeace, made when he left that organization.
Some refer to people who use environmentalism as a cloak for political activities as watermelons. James Delingpole explains the situation in detail in his book Watermelons: The Green Movement’s True Colors.” The damage done by their false claims are virtually incalculable. Paul Driessen was among the first to identify the damage in his Eco-Imperialism. Beyond that, there is the frustration that nobody is ever held accountable.
In advance of the September Climate Conference in New York, the UN, through the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), is distributing world wide a series of short videos that are tantamount to shouting “fire”, in what they say is a crowded theater. The first one is a forecast for 2050, full of extreme events including floods, droughts, heat waves and even an indirect threat, by cynically claiming one benefit to the warming, will be easy transit through Arctic waters. They base their position and claims on the Reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). It is not just that many scientists disagree, but all IPCC predictions (projections) are wrong to date and the IPCC was created by the WMO. In addition, they use UN money, mostly contributed by developed nations, in their effort to make them pay for causing the problem. But who decided they caused the problem? They did, using scientific methods that are clearly wrong because the predictions are wrong. It is a classic circular argument.
There are leading environmentalists in every country who practice political abuse of environmentalism, as Klaus defined it. These individuals and their organizations have done great social and economic damage with environmental misinformation and false claims, for a political agenda of total government control under the guise of saving the planet. They are effectively a green fifth-column, the enemy within. Sadly, their exploitation and misuse of environmentalism is putting the entire paradigm in jeopardy, as people stop believing anything they’re told. Something about crying wolf.
Most of the organizations, despite a tax exemption that requires them to be apolitical, are used for political objectives. Trying to determine who and what is political is virtually impossible and fully open to abuse by the user and the government making the determination, as the recent IRS scandals in the US have demonstrated. What happens is, taxpayers end up funding organizations with which they completely disagree and those organizations use the money to attack and even eliminate them. The illogic of forcing a taxpayer to pay for a gun that another person uses to shoot them, is obvious.
Salmon fishing on North America’s northwest coast has long been a target for environmentalists. They attacked all forms, including fish farming. In Canada, there was no organization more vociferous than the David Suzuki Foundation. There was no justification for any of the changes. Salmon runs were not depleted by over fishing or declining habitat, as they claimed, but natural fluctuations of numbers due to changing ocean currents and water temperatures. It is a cycle registered in the oral tradition of the west coast aboriginals. When the salmon run fails they experience a period identified as the time of “full stomach”. This refers to the distended stomach of starvation, not too much food. The oral tradition also includes description of changing conditions that preceded the return of the salmon.
In the 1990s salmon numbers started to decline as weather patterns, including temperature, precipitation, and winds, caused changing ocean currents. Conditions, along the coast and in rivers, became unfavorable for returning salmon because of natural changes. The myth is that salmon always return to the river in which they were spawned. It is only true if conditions are favorable. While numbers declined in southern latitudes, they increased significantly in northern latitudes, from northern British Columbia, the Alaska panhandle and Alaska.
Salmon numbers fluctuate like all fish populations, as a brilliant work by L.B.Klyashtorin and A.A. Lyubushin. (Figure 1) show. Nobody has promoted this work and spoken out about the misinterpretation surrounding global warming more than Gary Sharp.
Figure 1
The Canadian problem was made worse by media pressure, but enhanced by the government Department of Fisheries. Every year they produced estimates of potential runs that almost consistently were much lower than the actual runs. It didn’t matter that they often underestimated by 50 percent. The numbers they produced were used to set the fishing quotas for the season and put many fishermen out of business, causing severe hardship for thousands of people. As Margaret Wente wrote,
In B.C., there’s something almost sacred about salmon. So when the salmon runs started to dwindle, the blame game began in earnest.
The Canadian Department of Fisheries used similar declining cod population numbers on the East Coast to stop the cod fishery completely. This devastated the Province of Newfoundland, because it was akin to going to Kansas and saying you can’t grow wheat anymore. It also led to closing many “outport” communities and moving the people to bigger centers, disrupting centuries old cultures and traditions. The frustration for Oceanographer, Roger Pocklington and I, was, we were monitoring ocean water temperatures and their causes and warning Ottawa that cod numbers were going to decline because of changing conditions. Nobody listened! A complete way of life was destroyed unnecessarily, because the cod moved to inshore waters and out into warming Gulf Stream waters where Europeans continued to catch them. Canadian fishermen were banned from fishing in these areas. Proof that claims of overfishing was the problem, is that the numbers haven’t recovered, even though there has been no fishing since 1993. The sad irony is the government and its bad decisions, that would have devastated the economy, were offset by increased revenue from the Hibernia oil discovery – saved by the fossil fuel devil.
The story is different on the northwest coast because now the salmon are returning, just as they have in the past. Record runs are being recorded all along the coasts of Washington, Oregon and British Columbia. It is not making headlines in the mainstream media. The Suzuki Foundation and other environmental groups, who blamed human activities, are silent. There are no apologies for being wrong, and certainly no attempt to hold them accountable.
In addition to getting the free salmon issue wrong, the Suzuki Foundation was involved in corruption of data about farmed salmon. Again Wente commented,
But the biggest villain is fish farms. Many people believe the fish farms are responsible for spreading deadly sea lice and disease to wild fish.
Thanks to Greenpeace, the David Suzuki Foundation and other activists, fish farms are among the most loathed operations in British Columbia.
Here is what Vivian Krause wrote,
For more than a decade, the David Suzuki Foundation has run an aggressive campaign against farmed salmon. “It’s poison!” David Suzuki told a conference in Toronto. “Phone your local hospitals and find out if farmed salmon is served to patients,” said a brochure from his foundation.
The central issue they claimed, was the damage done by “farm origin” sea lice. Krause concludes,
Sea lice are found on many species of wild fish, including herring. A method to trace the origin of sea lice is under development but currently does not exist, so it is methodologically impossible to distinguish between sea lice that originate from a fish farm and those that come from other wild fish. It follows that claims about “farm origin” sea lice are flagrantly unsubstantiatable.
Damage to reputation, financial loss, emotional stress, all those things a court considers damage due to wrongful actions, were suffered by people in various situations. What is even more galling is that their taxes, either directly or through increased taxation to offset these tax-exempt organizations not paying, are used.
The Suzuki Foundation is entitled to its view, and the freedom to express it, but there is a social responsibility that they appear to abrogate. Celebrities and mainstream media, duped by the PR, or a willingness to ignore facts and evidence, support him in this abrogation. Witness the use of Leonardo DiCaprio by the UN Secretary General to promote the New York Climate Conference. The cynicism of the appointment is underscored by his title of Messenger of Peace. Global warming has nothing to do with peace, but they couldn’t connect him with science. No more than the Nobel Committee could connect the IPCC and Al Gore with science, so they got Peace Prize. If the UN climate conference requires a Peace Ambassador and the Nobel Peace Prize is about climate science, it means they have declared war on global warming. This makes the observation of Greek philosopher, Aeschylus, “In war truth is the first casualty.
It is one matter to get the science wrong, for which there is a scientific culpability. However, when you use bad or deliberately false science to direct public policy, there is a social responsibility for which there should be total accountability. A simple definition of science is the ability to predict. The UN meeting is based on the predictions of the IPCC that were so wrong from the start that they started calling them projections, but even those were wrong. It doesn’t require an understanding of science to know that their predictions (projections) failed, which raises the question, how much “due diligence” did DiCaprio apply in his desire to bring peace? He has the freedom to speak, but as Oliver Wendell Holmes said it must not be a falsity, otherwise there is liability.
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Great article!
For those, like me, who have spent a few decades salmon fishing, you learn that nothing is less predictable than next year’s salmon run.
Linking salmon runs to supposed climate change is complete, total and utter BS.
The problem with salmon from salmon farms is that their flesh is not as firm, or as tasty, as those from the wild. If you can get over that, then comes the real problem and that is to do with sea lice.
Salmon farms treat their salmon with chemicals which stun the sea lice causing them to fall off. Then, along comes along the three inch long salmon smolt heading for the ocean, these smolt hug the ocean floor where an unusually high concentration of sea lice lie in wait.
So, salmon farms adversely affect the number of juvenile smolt returning to the ocean, which obviously affects the salmon runs 1-3 years later.
The solution? Do not allow salmon farms within 10 miles of an estuary used by migrating salmon.
And what has that got to do with supposed climate change? Answer: absolutely nothing.
And what has it got to do with common sense? Answer: A lot, and unfortunately not something found often amongst environmental activists or the climate faithful.
Glad to see L.B.Klyashtorin and A.A. Lyubushin get some well deserved recognition. For some reason their work has never resonated on this blog.
Not any more.
It is an open forum, spread the word.
Can’t cover everything, can one ?
Don’t forget the Chinese factory ships that strip millions of 1-2 year old salmon from the Pacific. Check the label on your “wild caught” frozen salmon fillets. Most say product of China. West coast fisherman pay millions in license fees to grow them in hatcheries to supplement natural spawning, only to have China reap the bounty.
Another bounty reaped by China from this country.
That works both ways.
Some are unashamedly Marxist, look at http://systemchangenotclimatechange.org/about
They blame capitalism and “profit” as evil. Many name the Koch brothers as the cause of carbon pollution. They are nuts.
“Watermelons” is the word. David Suzuki retired several years ago. The head of the Davd Suzuki Foundation is now one James Hoggan, owner of a Vancouver PR firm. He is a co-founder of the notorious desmogblog, founded in 2005. The Wikipedia entry for Hoggan mentions that he also is a trustee of the Dalai Lama Center for Peace and Education, founded in 2005 (Dalai Lama was the head of Tibetan Buddist Lamasaries but was chased out by the Chinese over 50 years ago. He was a boy then.)
The Wikipedia gives as the mission of this organization “the education of the hearts of children” by “organizing events centered on the discussion of spirituality, climate change, the environment, peace and other topics.” Thus can be detected the fine hand of a Jim Hoggan, PR specialist, in the establishment of an organization meant to indoctrinate the youth of Canada at an early age. The entry does not clarify whether or not Jim Hoggan practices Buddism. Pity the poor children of British Columbia. Many of them will ever outgrow such indoctrination.
Concerning the canard that Salmon populations are not determined by natural fluctuations in the ocean and environment, David Suzuki knows better than to propagate such a canard. He has PhD in zoology from the U of Chicago and has been a professor in that discipline and genetics at the local university in Vancouver. He is a scientist that well understands principles of natural population fluctuations.
Nonetheless, his foundation has industriously propagated this and other such canards and are busily engaged in the propagation of climate alarmism at this instant.
Another exceptional contribution by Dr. Ball. Thank you for continuing to shine light where Suzuki and others continue to cast malevolent shadows.
“Fifth column”, he writes. Yep, that’s exactly what these Watermelons are. Galling that our taxes are funding their wicked work.
All the salmon in the river will die anyway after spawning. Fishing a few hundreds will not do any difference.
Depends whether you fish them before or after spawning, surely?
There is no “after”. That’s it for them.
The difficulty for the West Coast fishermen is that hauling down a false god is tendentious. People like their gods, especially those of their own making. That is not to say it is not worth the effort. A partial truth is not different from a lie. Thus the enemy is not a person, it is ignorance. Education such as the above article is key to ending the abuse of the public in the name of protecting the environment.
“Blowing smoke” up the arse of a drowning victim with the hope of revival, a medical consensus accepted from about 1750 to 1850, is the essence of scientific charlantry. A sad portion of the claims of environmentalists amount to no more than blowing smoke, then running for cover within it. Humanity can do better than this.
How about this post? Dr. Tim Ball commenting on the David Suzuki Foundation.This is HQ in Vancouver, the very place that Michael Mann filed suit against Dr. Ball for his humorous remark about Penn State and state pen (Mann howled in pain and promptly filed suit). So some have wondered if there was a connection there between the foundation and Mann’s litigiousness (but not too loudly, lest they get cuffed).This foundation
has a website; go there and you will see how busily they propagate climate alarmism.
The term “left coast” applies to Canada too, not just the US.
Thanks, Dr. Ball. A very illuminating article.
Now, of course, the tactics from “The Left” have been honed and fire-tested in real life.
Just have look at a political world map, or at he UN rooster of nations.
Freedom is not winning. So sad.
It is sad. Note that in the United Nation’s Global Survey for a Better World referenced in http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/09/22/more-than-310-thousand-people-with-skewed-priorities-flood-new-york/, “Political freedoms” ranked next to last. The only concern that was lower was “Action taken on climate change.”
Tim Ball
Superb essay. Thankyou.
Richard
I can vouch for the salmon runs. The sockeye season ran until the last week of July this year on the west coast of the Island, unheard of for over a decade. The sockeye are still being harvested along the coast, ans available for $4/lb. A fabulous price!
Not only does this stick a fork in the “oceans are storing heat” nonsense, but the rivers arenot heating up either.
AGW, the lie of the century, ranking up there with lies of Nazi Germany]
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Negative (cold) PDO is good for the salmon runs.
http://www.nwfsc.noaa.gov/research/divisions/fe/estuarine/oeip/ca-pdo.cfm
Maybe Suzuki doesnt know this.
Well one guy had an idea
“A controversial American businessman dumped around 100 tonnes of iron sulphate into the Pacific Ocean as part of a geoengineering scheme off the west coast of Canada.”
Worked like a charm. Carbon sequestered and lots and lots of Salmon. No negative consequences but he was drawn and quartered because it was unauthorized. Unauthorized by the same folks who get it wrong most every year. Year in and year out.
Happened upon the following:
http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/who-funded-david-suzukis-brochure-why-you-shouldnt-eat-farmed-salmon.html
Who funds Suzuki to attack Canadian businesses and why?
Many links to related reports detailing how US businesses use Suzuki and others to destroy competition whilst hiding behind the cloak of environmentalism.
Suzuki is well rewarded for his treachery.
You should read some history on Dr. Suzuki. He follows the money, always has. Spent some time in Berkley, though that is often LEFT out of his biography (pun intended) “Dr. Suzuki is a geneticist. He graduated from Amherst College (Massachusetts) in 1958 with an Honours BA in Biology, followed by a Ph.D. in Zoology from the University of Chicago in 1961. He held a research associateship in the Biology Division of Tennessee’s Oak Ridge National Lab (1961 – 62),” Search Suzuki Biography. Apparently doing experiments on the affects of radiation for the US military, common at that time. But in interviews on CBC, he indicated he got funding from the US military for some of his work on genetics in Canada, prior to getting on the CBC “Nature of Things.” I often wonder how deep the connections went, but that is pure fantasy speculation on my part. Watching too many Jason Bourne movies.
I now realize the content of this article identifies and attests a frustration that I’ve had – lack of accountability by the liars and their false data and false facts. And of course climate science abuse is a canary we can hold up to other, at least equally important, issues in the world. It frustrates me that the canary is showing signs.
Roy….September 21, 2014 at 12:41 pm “Don’t forget the Chinese factory ships that strip millions of 1-2 year old salmon from the Pacific. Check the label on your “wild caught” frozen salmon fillets. Most say product of China. West coast fisherman pay millions in license fees to grow them in hatcheries to supplement natural spawning, only to have China reap the bounty.”
China processes the fish, and squid, and crabs and anything we give them because it’s cheaper for them to do it meaning more profit for us. But back on topic…….I doubt there will ever be a day of reckoning for the unintended consequences caused by the environmentalists. I would love to see a class action suit leveled against Al Gore for economic damage done by his actions. Start with him and work your way down the list. Think of India and Greenpeace.
Engineers are neither required to be members of professional societies nor licensed. The latter, of course is required if an engineer wishes to offer engineering services to the public. Even that is a fairly loose requirement in most states, except for specific authorities such as anything related to construction.
Mark
Engineering failures often to lead to catastrophic failures and the death on unfortunate, innocent victims. A good engineer is well aware that a design flaw can easily kill people very suddenly. In other fields, the connection to human tragedy is not as obvious as with a chemical plant explosion or bridge collapse.
In the few states where I practiced, a stamp by a registered PE is required for almost any industrial structure or building for human use, except perhaps an owner-built private home. The real kicker is liability insurance. Given that the liability tail for an engineer can be endless and the potential for lawsuits is amazingly broad, the insurers are often more particular than the local governments.
Of course if you do not act as an engineer or represent yourself as being one in a particular field, then you will not need to register in that discipline. If you propose to hang a huge PVC or wind turbine overhead then you will probably need someone to stamp the design and take responsibility for it.
Great post. Amongst many others.
The need is to get the word out, against the MSM coverage of todays ‘300000 strong NYC march’ and the UN. For that we need better tactics, not better facts.
Everyone here should be considering contribute in their own way. or organizing initiatives like surfaceproject.org that re the collective equivalent. Stop complaining, and start sniping. In the literal sense, using live ammo equivalents.
There is one single factor that is entirely responsible for this green planet shackling ideology.
Today over one half of humanity lives in cities of over 100,000 or more people.
Across the world possibly no more than fifteen to twenty percent of all of humanity now lives close to nature and has to deal with nature as an every day part of their lives.
In the highly industrialized primarily urban based western civilisation that percentage is probably closer to ten percent or less as the food growing farming people in western countries now comprise less than five percent of the total population.
And that five percent of the population whose entire life is ruled by Nature and natural events is continuing to fall to even lower numbers as the years pass and food and fibre growing / farming technology continues to advance.
But it gets worse, much worse.
The entire political, bureaucratic, economic, financial, business, energy and legal systems along with the almost entire wealth of nations is now entirely controlled and / or owned by urban based elites whose knowledge of the non urbanised world outside of the cities is to all intents and purposes, non existent and outside of their personal, collective and generational experiences.
So the vast store of knowledge learnt over generations by those now steadily decreasing minority of non urban citizens is downgraded and ignored and frequently viewed with contempt by those urban based, elitist university academics and the urban based economic, business and political operatives, all of whom generally completely dismiss and ignore any knowledge coming from non urban citizens that conflicts with their own world view as coming from those whose intellectual qualities are entirely at a sub standard hicksville level.
The reality is of course that if those same life long completely urbanised academics, university graduates, politicals, bureaucrats and business and economic operators were thrown into the identical circumstances as the now steadily decreasing in numbers, non urbanised minorities live, they would demonstrate just as much an urbanised hicksville level of stupidity and be just as incapable of coping or worse than those supposedly country hicks when they are exposed to the pleasures of a densely concentrated urban population centre.
In short we, that is Mankind collectively are fast losing our links and real time personally experienced knowledge of Nature as the real Nature is and as the real Nature acts and the hard gained generational knowledge that could be used to guide our decisions when we are dealing with natural events and their consequences.
The world outside of the great urbanised cities is taking on the hues of the glossy magazine covers as the reality for most city dwellers and as mankind loses contact with Nature
The understandings that Mankind has always had of Nature and natural events as a necessity for survival of our species over the entire period of our existence and the role of entirely natural events on the lives of every living thing is being lost as a part of the human experience.
But there are other factors involved in the rise of green ideology extremism and that is the simple fact that for over three generations the developed world has never been subject ever to shortages of food or energy.
It is impossible for the last couple of generations to conceive of a world where energy availability is a luxury and food is regularly short or sometimes unobtainable.
This has allowed a psychology to develop that believes that restricting energy and food production under ever increasing strictures will have no personal impact for the proponents of such strictures or community debilitating effects as such effects are entirely outside of the generational experiences of the green ideology proponents of those increasingly onerous strictures.
As Dr Ball posts above, nobody seems to be held accountable for when any of these strictures and restrictions back fire and cause deep harm to so many.
Nor will they be held accountable until either food and energy production collapses under the weight of those debilitating green ideology imposed strictures or climate circumstances create conditions such as rapidly cooling climate change through natural change of through volcanic eruption induced climate change or something similar which will create vast energy and food shortages on a global scale.
Then and then only will there be an outcry for those responsible to held fully accountable.
And the revenge of the masses will be ugly indeed.
In the end it all comes down to the simple fact that we as a race and species due entirely to the rapid and accelerating five generations long urbanisation of our species are fast losing our understandings of the realities of our real world’s great natural swings and changes that we as a race have used and survived through for the last couple of millions of years of our existence.
For losing this species long understanding and respect for Nature and her whims there will be a future price to pay and that price will be high indeed for our race and our species.
ROM, that’s a great post and very, very true.
Accountability over clearly political issues? As the many, many, many times over millionaire Jon Stewart would never say, how anticlimatic.
On Accountability:
I wrote this to a friend in the USA one year ago:
I am an engineer, not a lawyer, but to be clear I was thinking of a class action (or similar) lawsuit, rather than an individual lawsuit from yourself or anyone else.
I suggest that there have been many parties that have been damaged by global warming alarmism. Perhaps the most notable are people who have been forced to pay excessive rates for electricity due to CO2-mandated wind and solar power schemes. Would the people of California qualify? Any other states? I suggest the people of Great Britain, Germany and possibly even Ontario would qualify, but the USA is where this lawsuit would do the most good.
There is an interesting field of US law that employs the RICO (anti-racketeering) statutes to provide treble (triple) damages in civil cases. That might be a suitable approach,
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Racketeering
Despite congressional attempts to limit the scope of civil RICO, only one major area of law has been removed from the RICO Act. The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 (15 U.S.C.A. § 77 et seq.) eliminated liability for RICO claims based on securities Fraud, unless the defendant has already been criminally convicted of securities fraud. The act thus removed the threat of treble (triple) damages in such cases. Congress concluded that federal securities laws generally provide adequate remedies for victims of securities fraud. Therefore, it was unnecessary and unfair to expose defendants in securities cases to the threat of treble damages and other extraordinary remedies provided by the RICO Act.
Critics of the RICO Act applaud this congressional action but argue that the same reasoning can and should be applied to other areas of Civil Law. These critics maintain that the act’s broad scope has given plaintiffs an unfair advantage in civil litigation.
One criticism of civil RICO is that no criminal convictions are necessary to win a civil case under the act. The plaintiff need only show, by a Preponderance of Evidence, that it is more likely than not that the ongoing criminal enterprise occurred. As a result RICO has been used in all types of civil cases to allege wrongdoing. By contrast, a criminal RICO case must be proved Beyond a Reasonable Doubt.
In addition, the judge and jury in a criminal RICO case are prohibited from drawing an adverse inference from a defendant’s invocation of the Fifth Amendment Privilege against Self-Incrimination. No such ban exists, however, in a civil RICO case. Critics contend that it is unfair for a party in a civil RICO case who has concerns about potential criminal liability to be forced to waive his or her Fifth Amendment privilege in order to mount an effective defense in the civil action. Once testimony is given in the civil case, the party has effectively waived the privilege against Self-Incrimination, and the testimony may be used in a subsequent criminal prosecution. Critics contend that the RICO Act should be amended to stay (delay) a civil RICO proceeding until a criminal RICO proceeding has been concluded.
The critics of civil RICO also believe that its use has given plaintiffs an unfair tool that often serves to coerce a party to settle out of fear of a treble damages award. These critics believe that no civil RICO action should be allowed unless the party has been convicted under criminal RICO.
[end of excerpt]
I suggest the Climategate emails could provide the necessary evidence of a criminal conspiracy to defraud the public, through fraudulent misallocation of government-funded research monies, and wind and solar power schemes that were forced upon consumers and which were utterly incapable of providing significant or economic new energy to the electric power grid.
Your thoughts?
Regards, Allan
+1
This may ultimately come to pass.
There would be some major changes in the lifestyles of those guilty in the global warming scam.
Are you studying arithmetic ?
Yes George. After differential equations I could no longer do arithmetic. 😉
G.Martin
I have just listened to the CBC news report on Climate Change! WOW what pure and political left wing bias by a panel of political hacks that the CBC calls experts ( and I have to pay for this misinformation through my taxes). They used all the usual talking points and untruths, the 97 percent consensus, floods in Calgary and Toronto, snow in Sept. in Calgary, the deniers are right wing conservatives and capitalists (as though that might be some sort of disease) and on and on they went.I almost blew a gasket! All the stuff that is easily debunked by rational thinking people but continues to be shoved down the public’s throats! I am beginning to think that there is no way of avoiding a complete and utter failure of our political system because the general public is being brainwashed by not only our public broadcasting system but also by the very education system our children and grand children are being informed by. When I sit down and read articles Like Dr. Tim Ball’s I wonder why his opinions never get beyond the pages of WUWT. I become so incredibly frustrated! He certainly has more credibility than all the panelists seen on CBC. I feel so absolutely defenseless when the agenda is so rigged in one direction. One has to wonder, how does Dr. Tim Ball think about this hopeless situation. I think a good start would be to remove the funding of the CBC and let them stand on their own two feet! I for one will not stand for this irresponsible and highly biased reporting. I will be writing to my MP which happens to be Prime minister Harper and voicing my concerns. Let’s make them accountable! This nonsense has to cease or I am afraid for the freedom and future of my grandchildren.
Check out who the parties are that are financing wind mills/wind turbines in Canada. Big money there and doubt anyone would call the parties involved in financing renewable energy projects left-wing.
The environmental groups touting wind and solar are just the water-boys. And fairly well paid as well.
Global TV, owned by Shaw, has become just as bad, if not worse than CBC on this issue. I watch just for the idiocy.
Dr Tim Ball says in his peroration: “However, when you use bad or deliberately false science to direct public policy, there is a social responsibility for which there should be total accountability”.
With respect, this leaves several unanswered questions. First, who is “you” (using the bad or false science – and what precisely is “bad or false science”?) – scientists propounding an unproven theory (or reviewing it) must be aware that it is not actually “science” to state a theory that either does not have a nul hypothesis or does not come to match observation, so I think this can only point either to scientists commissioned to advise the politicians (see IPCC) or politicians commissioning new research into fashionable but unproven theories (see Eisenhower’s farewell address). Next, what is “social responsibility” – if it is not a formal legal responsibility then, again, it is can only be down to the politicians, but (at least in democratic counties) they can always be voted from office. Finally, what exactly is “total accountability” – what is this in law and what is the process to enforce it? Here in the UK we gave up ducking stools several centuries ago …
For myself, I think that Eisenhower had it exactly right – the democracies encourage a kind of positive feedback between politicians and scientists, encouraging “the sky is falling”-type theories aimed at catching the lay public’s concerns and attention. On that basis the problem really lies with the national academies, eg the Royal Society.