Case Smit writes to me via email about a climate tour being organized in Australia with Dr. Patrick Moore, Greenpeace co-founder turned climate skeptic. I’m just passing it on:
Hi Anthony,
You have a huge number of followers and I hope you will be able to help this venture by letting as many people as possible know about it. The structure of the visit is such that it does not include many fund-raising events, so almost all of the costs (about $100,000) have to be covered by donations.
We feel that Patrick Moore’s background and reputation will persuade many CAGW believers to meet with him and hear his story; those sort of people would not come to a public lecture. Their exposure to Patrick’s story could well result in a swing away from CAGW allusions in the media.
Your assistance in publicising this visit and possible finding funding for it, will be greatly appreciated.
With regards,
Case Smit (Galileo Movement)
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Patrick Moore to visit Australia.
Australia is hosting a “climate information” visit by Dr. Patrick Moore (co-founder of Greenpeace) in October – November this year. Rather than lecturing to the “converted”, the principal purpose of this visit is for him to meet with opinion leaders in the media, politics and business to convey a rational environmentalist’s views on why policies instituted because of the “catastrophic climate change” scare need to be realistically addressed.
Australia was the first country to impose an economy-damaging tax on carbon dioxide emissions which the current Government has now repealed. However the Government still believes that the public wants to see “action on climate change”, so it continues with policies requiring billions of dollars to be spent to stabilise the global climate. Those opinion leaders that Patrick meets with will realise, as Patrick has done himself, that virtually all climate change is natural and that mankind’s contribution is minimal; they will then be able to convey this to the public.
Patrick’s visit will affect the future climate change policies of our government and present an example to the world. Such an example has the potential to be influential on policies adopted in other nations particularly now that our Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, has achieved global recognition as a statesman with his handling of the Malaysian Airlines disasters. With the G20 meeting in November which Mr. Abbott will host, he will have the opportunity to explain to other world leaders the uncertainties surrounding current climate policies and the desirability for the world economy, of scaling back such expenditures.
Substantial funding is required for this visit and while it is realised that funding sources for projects by environmental realists are extremely scarce, our appeal for help is going out internationally to make this most important visit a success. Would you please help this initiative, with potential world-wide benefit, by making this appeal known to your followers and by giving us an introduction to potential donors.
Case Smit
John Smeed
(joint organisers of Lord Monckton’s 2010 Australian Tour)
To contribute via EFT: -Galileo Movement Pty Limited, National Australia Bank Ltd., BSB: 084855, Acc. No. 191696855 please include “Moore Appeal” as the Payment Reference.
To contribute via PayPal – click the Paypal “donate” button on web site: http://www.galileomovement.com.au/donations.php please include “Moore Appeal” as the Payment Reference.
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Patrick’s lecture at the recent International Climate Change Conference in Las Vegas is on video. It outlines his journey from eco-warrior to defender of science, logic and the environment. He explains his scepticism of “catastrophic” global warming claims.
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$100K?
Seems a bit steep?
Anthony, you might let him have a share of your Big Oil $$$.
🙂 That plus $5 might enable him to get a cup of coffee at Starbucks….
Anthony,
You might let him have a share of your big oil money. 🙂 That plus $5 could get him a cup of coffee at Starbucks…
Anthony,
You might give him a share of your Big Oil $$. That plus $5 could get him a cup of coffee at Starbucks….
100k is a bargain if it can help stop the not so green machine which
Spent a 100k of taxpayers money as I wrote this. Goon luck MM
Sadly “believers” are not likely to come as their mind is made up and Dr. Moore is viewed as a heretic. No conversions will take place.
A few fence sitters and the rest are going to be people who like/need confirmation of their thoughts and findings.
I venture to guess that not too many politicians want to be seen with Dr Moore.
Sorry for the massive triplication, folks. I kept getting told the comment wasn’t posting. Boo WordPress…
Yeah. But warmists-on-tours get lots more.
The story about Patrick Moore being a co-founder of Greenpeace surely needs to be laid to rest. Greenpeace have published a letter from him in 1971 asking about joining a Greenpeace sailing. He finds it necessary to introduce himself; it reads as his first contact with the organisation.
REPLY: Nick, this says nothing about Greenpeace, its the “Make a Wave committee”. He joined it, they later renamed it Greenpeace. Your claim is pointless. -Anthony
Think about it, maybe 10k for 2 persons in airfares including domestic, 30 days at $150 a night x 2 ppl accomodation $9000), 10 venues x 2 nights @ur momisugly 3000 per night (60,000), publicity ( maybe 10k), surface transport @ur momisugly $50 per day $1500, meals @ur momisugly 100 per day $3000, so that’s about $100k so far and nobodies children get to eat yet (no salaries).
Jeez Nick, read the “to” address, maybe read Dr. Moores book, I was at those protests, “Greenbits” didn’t exist at that time. The “publishing” of that letter is part of a disassociation campaign. This is an attempt to rewrite history for the generation that isn’t old enough or conscious enough to remember.
Wayne Delbeke says: August 17, 2014 at 1:22 pm
“Jeez Nick, read the “to” address”
His letter begins “I am interested in sailing on the Greenpeace”
Nick Stokes says:
August 17, 2014 at 1:09 pm
The 1971 voyage was not “a” Greenpeace sailing, but the first one. Moore was on board. When the “Don’t Make a Wave Committee” was reorganized into Greenpeace in 1972, Moore was among the founders. Naturally, the present, corporate Greenpeace has tried to rewrite history by writing him out of it.
Nick stokes,
Means nothing, let’s assume you were in say Rotary, you wanted to go on a rotary mission, what would you do? Does the letter written to the activity coordinator, mean that you don’t already belong to Rotary?
Let’s say you wrote PDOS ( the foundation of MSDOS ) the application most responsible for founding Microsoft, years later you applied for a job, does that mean you didn’t write PDOS, didn’t help found Microsoft?
Is there any evidence that Moore was a founder of Greenpeace. The Greenpeace website says he was part of a group that sailed to Amchitka but no mention of founding member. I vaguely remember an earlier WUWT saying that Greenpeace disappeared that fact but couldn’t find any evidence in the web archive.
Nick –
I believe the ship, “Greenpeace” and the orginazation, “Greenpeace” aren’t the same thing.
The ship existed before the organization changed it’s name to “Greenpeace”..
From the way it appears, many of what would be called the founders of the organization “Greenpeace” may have sailed on that vessel in 1971.
Good try, but I am not convinced that MSM will be courageous enough to print/broadcast anything meaningful about the tour. They have painted themselves into the same corner as the politicians and none of them know how to extricate themselves.
I would love to be proved wrong, though.
Can’t get the paypal thing to work – no place to put “Moore Appeal”, just allows donations to “Galileo Movement”.
What am I doing wrong?
James Allison says:
August 17, 2014 at 1:34 pm
Not just evidence, but beyond a shadow of a doubt. Here are the facts:
The “Don’t Make a Wave Committee” was founded by American expats recently moved to BC, the Bohlens and the “Stowes”, US Communist lawyer and public employee union organizing social worker who had just (they claimed) embraced Quakerism and changed their names from Strasmich and Rabinowitz. They organized the first, 1971 anti-nuclear cruise to Amchitka on a ship another committee member had named “Greenpeace”. Moore was a member of the crew.
After that cruise, Moore and some of the other committee members, among whom Paul Watson claims to have been, proposed formally organizing as Greenpeace in 1972. Moore was the only founder with scientific credentials, however slight, so was prominent early in the movement’s history. Irving “Stowe” died in 1974.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Peace
Draw your own conclusion. From the 1969 Amchitka protests at the US border until 1972+- it there was the “don’t make a wave” committee. I had stuff in my basement from back then until a couple if years ago when I purged all my old engineering and miscellaneous records. The reference above is as vague as my memories, but it is reasonably close.
Apologies for even saying anything as it distracts from the main point of the post.
While I don’t agree with some of what Dr. Moore says, I believe he is on a good path. Plus we are cut from the same generational and work ethic cloth.
I will be donating, just as I did back in the day.
Nick Stokes says: … a bunch of total BS …
I can only surmise that Mr. Stokes is very, very economical with the truth OR he just says things without checking the facts first. I don’t know which it is with Mr. Stokes, but I do know he gets paid to promote climate alarmism and does it here on this blog on a daily basis.
To claim Dr. Patrick Moore was not a co-founder of Greenpeace is a lie equal to the sort of stuff we saw in Pravda back in the U.S.S.R. days. It is a disgusting attempt at 1984 style re-writing of history. I am old enough to remember those days and Greenpeace claimed Dr. Moore as a founder for a long, long time.
markstoval says:
August 17, 2014 at 1:56 pm
Greenpeace was a KGB front organization at least until the end of the USSR.
If Dr. Patrick Moore is reading this post I wonder if he might settle the discussion about whether he was a founding member of Greenpeace or not.
“Greenpeace was a KGB front organization at least until the end of the USSR.”
If that is true, or if that is not true, does not change the fact that Dr. Moore was a co-founder of the Greenpeace organization.
I choose to be a member of the World Wildlife Fund for years in the 70s and 80s until the organization did things I could not agree to in good conscience. I can not re-write history and claim I did not join. A thing is true or it is false.
markstoval says:
August 17, 2014 at 2:08 pm
I doubt that Dr. Moore knew whence all the money came. He can clear this up, but I assume he thought that the benefit concerts and donations provided it all. Couldn’t find the Forbes piece on the topic, but there’s this:
http://www.attacreport.com/ar_archives/art_na_greenpeace.htm
After the fall of the USSR, Greenpeace continued operations from its new international corporate HQ in NYC. Whether it still gets support from the FSB under Putin or not, who can say?