That is a question that I’m sure is on a lot of people’s minds as they wonder if they should attend. It seems like the sort of thing warmists would do – go someplace hot, talk about how hot it is, and then hope a new record is set while there to underscore the importance of saving the planet from hotter and hotter days. It’s a PR flack’s dream.
But, expectations and reality in the climate debate are often far different, and it is that difference that makes Las Vegas a perfect place to discuss temperature, climate, and global warming, as I show below. First, let’s look at the potential for new record highs during the days of the ICCC9 conference:
Here are the records for early July during the conference, it would have to exceed 114/113 to have a new record. The normal high is 104 for the dates of July 7/8/9:
As you can see there has been a warming trend in average temperature for Las Vegas, something sure to be pounced on:
But, it turns out that most of that trend is in overnight temperatures, which are most affected by the explosive growth of Las Vegas and the resultant UHI (1):
Inconveniently, there is no upward trend in maximum temperatures, in fact it appears there has been a slight downward trend since the late 1930’s and early 1940’s:
There also seems to be no increase in record high temperatures beyond the levels first noted when record keeping began in 1937, no new maximum temperature records have exceeded the 117 degree record set on July 24th, 1942 (2):
All in all, I think Las Vegas is PERFECT place to have a climate conference, because it shows that expectations of warming and the reality of data just don’t match.
I’ll be there and I’ll be giving a final report on our SurfaceStations project and what we’ve found. Registration is here is you want to attend: http://climateconference.heartland.org/
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References:
(1) Summary Report, Urban Heat Island Effect, City of Las Vegas, Office of Sustainability, April 2010
From: http://www.lasvegasnevada.gov/files/UHI_Report_2010-2.pdf
(2) Source for data: NOAA/NWS Las Vegas, from
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/vef/climate/LasVegasClimateBook/index.php
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Because what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.
The press coverage will confirm this.
I’ve only ever had a decent view of the Milky Way once in my like, at night in the desert near Vegas. I’d recommend it to anyone who thinks Mankind is smart enough to predict the future of the climate.
Given a choice of Hoboken or Las Vegas, it’s a no brainer. Hardly anyone goes outdoors during the day in Las Vegas (or anywhere south of Flagstaff, Arizona for that matter) and the nightlife is the best.
Something that CAN be done during the day is take a tour of Bonneville dam. Allow plenty of time and I think you can obtain reservations or tickets in advance since the lines can be rather long.
Great question. Last summer we had over 110 degrees. So far this year we have seen 104 at my place. Typical temperatures in Las Vegas Valley. Holding an event such as this here is one more example of climate nutter-ology.
MikeUK says:
June 24, 2014 at 12:30 pm
I’ve only ever had a decent view of the Milky Way once in my like, at night in the desert near Vegas. I’d recommend it to anyone who thinks Mankind is smart enough to predict the future of the climate.
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Mike – I agree.
I’ve been at sea, and had an occasional good view of the Milky Way.
It does put the ship – never mind its crew – into perspective . . .
Indeed, the Seas and Oceans do, very adequately!
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Would be interesting to combine a chart of population growth with the temperature charts to see if there is any correlation.
Because Climate Skeptics/Realists, unlike Warmists, know that weather is not climate.
How many outdoor pools have been built in Las Vegas in the last 40-50 years?
“it turns out that most of that trend is in overnight temperatures”
Carbon Dioxide is just a snuggly blanket gas keeping us warm at night,
You hold a conference in Las Vegas because it is probably the cheapest place to fly to and stay at in North America.
If this meeting really was being supported by millions of petro-dollars, you could have all gone to Bali – no, wait, that was the publicly-funded IPCC wasn’t it. Or how about Copenhagen, with probably the most expensive restaurants in Europe – nope IPCC again.
Well done for choosing Vegas, but remember at the tables – the House always wins. Kinda like the fixed odds the concensus scientists use for their models….
Las Vegas holds climate skeptics conference.
Pottstown holds Hobo conference
Reason, Pottstown had first choice!
Fear.
Mandalay Bay is an inspired choice. Hands down, they have the hottest pool scene in Vegas. The Lazy Lagoon river pool goes on it’s course ’round and ’round. Grab a float and place you cooler near the edge. As you go around, grab a fresh drink every 2 laps or so. Then there is the beach in front of the huge Wave Pool. Surfs Up! And of course, palm trees everywhere. It’s a tropical paradise in the middle of the desert. Top things off at the lounge at the top of THE Hotel. Truly spectacular views of the strip and the distant mountains. No better place to study the effects of Global Warming, at least in the summer.
Cheers, All.
Michael 2; Something that CAN be done during the day is take a tour of Bonneville dam.
You won’t get back in time for dinner…
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State Fram Ins. /Allstate/ Farmers Ins. / Progressive, show you car wrecks, hail storms and tornados.
John Hancock shows you a widow who can not feed her kids or pay the mortage.
Greenpeace/Earth First and the Maxist Democrat tax and spend cult of CO2 fraud shows you much the same, water facets on fire, water wells gone bad via fracking, dirty rivers, smog, all to scare you into buying into the fraud.
Very much a gaggle of Marxist “tin men” on the make for taxes to spend on a high time in glitter land.
Some one like the project verteris needs to infiltrate the deal and put up you tube vidios of what the talk to one another about at the leg shows and such after say 2:00 AM.
Recon wins wars.
But it’s a dry heat…
WUWT says, “All in all, I think Las Vegas is PERFECT place to have a climate conference, because it shows that expectations of warming and the reality of data just don’t match.
I’ll be there and I’ll be giving a final report on our SurfaceStations project and what we’ve found.”
I don’t believe I have ever been so tempted to go to Vegas in my life! (:
Remember your mission and stay out of the Lotus Eaters Casino though:
Don’t make me have to come down there and get you out. (;
Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief, Lotus Flower Scene dur. 2:15 minutes
MikeUK says:
I’ve only ever had a decent view of the Milky Way once in my like, at night in the desert near Vegas. I’d recommend it to anyone who thinks Mankind is smart enough to predict the future of the climate.
This really puts mankind into perspective. [Hubble, Deep Field]
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Anyone going to Vegas who wants a thrill should try out some of the roller coasters. The one at NewYorkNewYork is worthwhile. Wear your Depends.
And yes, Mandalay Bay is a great deal, only about one-third what you would pay anywhere else for a comparable room. But of course, they make it up at the tables. Keep in mind that those $billion buildings weren’t paid for by winners. ☺
Anthony,
It isn’t just Vegas.
This is average anomaly for daily Mn and Mx temps.
I’m sure there’ll be “they’re gambling with our children’s future” alarmist jokes…
The global warming *cam is all about stealing people’s money and using it to live the high life, so a conference in Vegas is perfect for them.
Oops. I read that wrong.
The links got lost.
Global Min and Max average anomaly.
North America and Eurasia Mn/Mx.
South America, Africa, Australia Mn/Mx.
Anthony – I’ve just registered and looking forward to seeing you in Las Vegas. I used to live in Phoenix, and 104 doesn’t sound too bad. Fortunately, electricity rates haven’t skyrocketed yet, so there will be plenty of air conditioning.