China and CO2

Secretary Kerry is moron. He rather throw his military medals in the dumpster and trash the country that gave him that right than admit he was wrong about the coming Global cooling.

the most important CAGW news this week yet, except for the Guardian (online only no doubt & with no comments – see below) NO MSM have carried it, yet all subscribe to Reuters!
9 June: Reuters: David Stamway: Chinese official plays down emission cut expectations
Any near-term regulation of China’s greenhouse gas emissions would likely allow for future emissions growth, a senior government official said on Monday, discounting any suggestion of imminent carbon cuts by the biggest-emitting nation.
Sun Cuihua, deputy director of the climate change office at the National Development and Reform Commission, said it would be a simplification to suggest China would impose an absolute cap on greenhouse gas emissions from 2016.
No decision had yet been taken on a cap and the timing of such a measure was under discussion, she said. Several options were being considered and China would choose policies in accordance with its conditions and stage of development.
“Our understanding of the word ‘cap’ is different from developed countries,” Sun told a conference…
Sun’s comments are likely to cool hopes in international climate negotiations that China could significantly change the base lines by announcing sooner-than-anticipated CO2 cuts…
(Additional reportint by Kathy Chen; Writing by Stian Reklev; Editing by Ron Popeski)
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/09/china-climatechange-idUKL4N0OQ0WB20140609
9 June: Guardian: Chinese official plays down emission cut expectations
Comments likely to cool hopes in UN climate talks that China will announce sooner-than-anticipated CO2 cuts
Sun CuihuaSun Cuihua, deputy director of the climate change office at the National Development and Reform Commission, said it would be a simplification to suggest China would impose an absolute cap on greenhouse gas emissions from 2016…
“Our understanding of the word ‘cap’ is different from developed countries,” Sun told a conference…
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/09/chinese-official-plays-down-emission-cut-expectations

***Bloomberg still ignoring the Sun Cuihua reuters’ report; still suggesting China is accelerating towards a “possible cap on carbon emissions”. the propaganda of the headline & opening paras is stunning. however, the second half of the article gives the finger to the Sierra Club:
****make note. Canada & Gulf of Mexico could be the winners.
10 June: Bloomberg: David J. Lynch: China’s Clean-Fuel Focus Tests U.S. Coal-Export Lifeline
Intense opposition on the U.S. West Coast, over climate change, rail congestion and damage to Native American fisheries, already is blocking new export terminals designed to ship coal across the Pacific Ocean. Now, China — which consumes almost as much coal as the rest of the world combined — is accelerating a planned switch to cleaner fuels, ***including a possible cap on carbon emissions and limits on new coal-fired plants…
For U.S. coal producers, getting there is the problem…
The latest setback came May 30 when Oregon state regulators put off until August a decision on the proposed Morrow Pacific terminal, the eighth in a series of delays that have frustrated investors and executives. Three days later, the Obama administration proposed regulations to cut carbon emissions, underscoring the imperative for coal producers to develop foreign markets.
“We’re winning,” says Cesia Kearns of the Sierra Club’s “Beyond Coal” campaign…
In January, China, the world’s biggest coal consumer, brought forward to this year a previously announced goal of reducing its dependence upon coal to less than 65 percent of its energy usage by 2017…
***The sheer size of the economy — now the world’s second largest — means that slower growth than this year’s 7.5 percent target won’t prevent electricity demand from increasing. As total power generation more than doubles by 2030, China will be adding capacity equal to the entire U.K. power grid each year with coal firing 58 percent of the system, according to a 2013 Bloomberg New Energy Finance study…
‘Staggering’ Consumption
“Look at any projections of the amount of coal that China is going to use in the next 20, 30 years, it’s quite staggering,” said Colin Marshall, chief executive officer of Cloud Peak Energy Inc. (CLD), a Gillette, Wyoming-based company that operates three surface mines in the Powder River Basin.
****And even if the West Coast terminals don’t materialize, Asia-bound exports could continue via Canada or through the Gulf of Mexico to an expanded Panama Canal, though less profitably, industry executives say…
The three terminals that are still alive — Morrow Pacific in Boardman, Oregon; Gateway Pacific in Cherry Point, Washington; and Millennium Bulk in Longview, Washington — could almost double U.S. exports…
Though Europe absorbs about half of U.S. exports, Asia — with roughly one-quarter — has been a faster-growing market for U.S. producers.
Since 2009, when China first became a net importer of coal, only the U.K.’s demand has increased faster…
Under an urbanization drive announced in March, China plans to move 100 million more rural residents to cities by 2020. Five new national transport corridors will knit together the country with new rail and road links, supporting demand for coal-fueled steel and electricity production…
China used 3.6 billion metric tons of coal in 2012 and is projected to need 4.8 billion in 2020, Liang Jiakun, vice head of the China National Coal Association, said last year…
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-10/china-s-clean-fuel-focus-tests-u-s-coal-export-lifeline.html
11 June: Bloomberg: IEA Cuts Gas Use Growth Forecast as Coal, Renewables Gain
By Anna Shiryaevskaya
Global natural gas demand will increase at a slower rate than previously expected through 2019 amid weaker economic growth and competition from coal and renewables, according to the International Energy Agency. …
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-10/iea-cuts-gas-use-growth-forecast-as-coal-renewables-gain.html

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3 mai 2014 – Bill Gates Sponsoring Boko Haram To Replace Indigenous Farmers With Monsanto, GMO’s —Global Prolife Alliance. bill gates agric
what are they going to sponsor in China ??

China still has a number of unplayed cards in its hands, two strong ones being the ability to upgrade existing dirty coal generating stations (to claim reductions in pollution) and then switching from coal to gas (major CO2 reductions without cutting energy use). By that time it will easily be the world’s largest economy, driving the global agenda and not simply ignoring it. I wonder what America’s economy will look like by then – 20 years or less.

The number that is relevant for emissions reduction policies and climate change is the total cumulative emissions, not annual emissions. Developed nations have a big emissions head start. In round numbers, the United States has still put 1.5 to 2 times more greenhouse gas into the atmosphere than China has up to now. Even with annual U.S. emissions reductions and annual Chinese growth, it will probably take until about 2030 for the Chinese to catch up.
http://www.pbl.nl/en/publications/countries-contributions-to-climate-change
The position of developing nations is simple: developed nations have led the way with their emissions and put the majority of the excess greenhouse gas into the atmosphere up until now, so they can lead the way with reductions.

CHINA PLAYS THE AGW GAME
China will most likely never cooperate with the transatlantic oligarchy’s misanthropic, genocidal, and fraudulent global warming agenda, which is designed solely to keep developing nations in a backwards and primitive state. This can be concisely summarized by the term “eco-imperialism.”
China’s position on global warming:
1. There is no global warming at the moment; we’ve been in a global cooling period for years.
2. There is absolutely no empirical evidence showing that human activities have any discernible impact on the Earth’s climate.
China and India have no intention of reducing carbon output as it will destroy their developing economies. Can you blame them?..the US has built the major economy in the world on the back of cheap electricity. India has also said “We will not limit our emissions. Period.”
Copenhagen has made the world leaders realize the reality that the world doesn’t care about climate change. Man-made climate change is a fraud, and a joke-religion. The Earth will survive, mankind will adapt, dire consequences will not be realized.
China’s goal in 2010 was to reduce energy consumption per unit of economic output by 20% compared with 2005, and to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases per unit of economic output by 40 to 45% in 2020 compared with 2005. But even if China can make the promised improvements, the International Energy Agency now projects that China’s emissions of energy-related CO2 will grow more than the rest of the world’s combined increase by 2020. China, with one-fifth of the world’s population, is now on track to represent more than a quarter of humanity’s energy-related CO2 emissions.
China uses twice as much energy per dollar of output as the United States and three times as much as the European Union. The assumption is that China can greatly improve efficiency because it must still be relying mainly on wasteful, aging boilers and outmoded power plants. But David Fridley, a longtime specialist in China’s energy at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, said that the comparison to the United States and the European Union was misleading. Manufacturing makes up three times as much of the Chinese economy as it does the American economy, and it is energy-intensive. If the United States had much more manufacturing, Mr. Fridley said, it would also use considerably more energy per dollar of output.
China has passed the United States in the average efficiency of its coal-fired power plants. Demand for electricity is so voracious that in just one year (2009) China built new coal-fired plants with a total capacity greater than all existing power plants in New York State.
The central government has ordered cities to close inefficient factories like the vast Guangzhou Steel mill, where most of the 6,000 workers were laid off or pushed into early retirement. Between 2007 and 2010 China shut down more than a thousand older coal-fired power plants that used technology of the sort still common in the United States. China has also surpassed the rest of the world as the biggest investor in wind turbines and other so-called “clean” energy technology. And it has dictated tough new energy standards for lighting and gas mileage for cars.
China believes it should have the right to develop free from carbon reductions until their accumulated emissions are on par with industrialized countries. A Brookings Institute report: “Overcoming Obstacles to US-China Cooperation on Climate Change” articulated Beijing’s stance, which included the conviction that: “Countries should be held responsible not only for their current emissions but also for their cumulative historical emissions, given that greenhouse gases accumulate in the atmosphere over many decades.” This plan is China’s most comprehensive effort to date to both highlight and quantify development inequalities as a justification for releasing China and other developing countries from emissions reduction expectations.
China insists that it is still a poor country deserving of the rest of the world’s assistance; not the other way around. As China sheds its status as a developing country, it will increasingly be able to act as a patron and stakeholder. In times like these, and on subjects like CO2 reduction, China plays the “developing country” card, in hopes it will give them reprieve from costly and complicated climate commitments.
A report “Journey to world top emitter,” published in Geophysical Research Letters, concludes that 50% of increases in Chinese CO2 emissions between 2002 to 2005 were due to export production, of which 60% came from goods exported to western countries. This study, and others like it, point to Western consumption-driven culpability.
The scholarship-supported assignment of guilt is shaping China’s position on the terms of the next climate change treaty. During a trip to Washington, senior climate official, Li Gao, insisted that China’s export sector be exempt from carbon emissions reductions in the next treaty on climate change. Given the state of the global economy, and China’s latest posturing on financial and environmental commitments, China’s leverage in the international arena is clearly on the rise.
The Chinese are very clever. They claim they’re doing all they can to lower their “bad emissions” and they chastise America for not doing the same. They must be very amused to watch the West injure their economies as their leaders ram their “clean, green” energy agenda down our throats. The Chinese must rub their hands together with glee to watch the great American empire destroy itself from within. Obama refers to this as a “redistribution” of wealth.
But even if America and western Europe destroy their economies in an ignorant and vain attempt to somehow control the climate, China has no intent or ability to control their growth and its production of CO2.
The Chinese have a seemingly insatiable appetite for the finer things in life, like heat the winter, air conditioning in the summer, adequate food, electricity to light their homes and power their tools and toys, and fuel for their automobiles and trucks. How can the climate hysterics keep all those Chinese “down on the farm” so-to-speak, and living in poverty? How dare they aspire to improve their lives? Don’t they know it is only rich, liberal Americans who deserve to live the “good life”? Just look to the Kerrys, Pelosis, Boxers, Reids, Gores and now the Obamas for examples of how to live the good life while telling everyone else they must sacrifice.

The really funny part is that all those burned out hippies living on the left coast that won’t build power plants or even allow coal to be shipped through their states to the docks are, due to prevailing winds, receiving a good portion of the smoke from the Chinese power plants without the benefit of the electricity.

Johny skull bones Kerry eh ? “We all remember Secretary of State John Kerry lying through this teeth last summer, when he swore that US intelligence reports proving that Syria used chemical weapons in Ghouta were “as clear as they are compelling.” However, the US administration never provided any proof of Syria government responsibility and now we know why: there was none.”
another one of Johny’s moments “Here is John Kerry on April 8, swearing that the Russians were behind the unrest in eastern Ukraine:
“No one should be fooled — and believe me, no one is fooled — by what could potentially be a contrived pretext for military intervention just as we saw in Crimea. It is clear that Russian special forces and agents have been the catalysts behind the chaos of the last 24 hours.”
Here is John Kerry two months later meeting with newly-elected Petro Poroshenko in Ukraine:
Secretary of State John Kerry also spent time talking with Mr. Poroshenko, privately urging him to provide evidence of Russian involvement with separatists with which to confront Russian officials.
John Kerry is a liar.” By Daniel McAdams http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38755.htm

Misattribution alert:
‘Twas not Jim G but
Alex who said:
June 11, 2014 at 7:09 am

Red China? Are you […] serious. They are more capitalist than we are these days. The biggest market worldwide for luxury goods is China. Remove your flairs and move into the 21st century

What are flairs?

Leo Geiger says:
June 11, 2014 at 5:42 am
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Ok, lets do cumulative math with no circulation, absorption, cycling.
The Yangtze has an annual flow of around 1 trillion cubic metres per year. The Mississippi, if I have converted the US units correctly, has an annual flow of about 500 billion cubic metres per year. So, over the last 20 years, the Yangtze had contributed 10 trillion more cubic metres to sea level rise than the Mississippi. Maybe China should fund levees around New Orleans.
Just kidding, but cumulative totals are meaningless in many circumstances. We have been around that dance for quite some time. Yeah, I know, plants only use carbon from other plants or exhaled gases from plants but not from burned fuels. Odd, that, before humans industrialized, I thought there was a lot of burned fuels about along with out gassing from oceans, volcanoes and ground sources. But then, I am old and foolish.
Off to weld a repair on the bucket of my tractor. Have a great day.

When AR5 was launched, I made the point about China.
China said long ago that it would take no steps before 2020. I suggested that AR5 will be scrutinesed not when it is released in 2013, but really only in 2020 when China decides whether it wants to address CO2 emissions.
If global temps have not warmed since now and 2020, one can expect to see many more papers on low climate sensitivity. As each year passes without a temp increase, climate sensitivity will be seen to be corresponding less. It is possible that AR5 will seen as a joke by 2020.