From the Australian National University and the department of “claim anything” comes this reversal over what was said two years ago about Antarctica:
“If this rapid warming that we are now seeing continues, we can expect that ice shelves further south along the peninsula that have been stable for thousands of years will also become vulnerable,” said Nerilie Abram, of the Australian National University.
So which is it? Rapid warming, or not warming as much because the winds are “strengthened by carbon dioxide”? I’d love to see proof of that mechanism, and no, models aren’t proof. From Eurekalert:
Ocean winds keep Antarctica cold, Australia dry
Why Antarctica isn’t warming as much as other continents
New Australian National University-led research has explained why Antarctica is not warming as much as other continents, and why southern Australia is recording more droughts.
Researchers have found rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are strengthening the stormy Southern Ocean winds which deliver rain to southern Australia, but pushing them further south towards Antarctica.
Lead researcher Nerilie Abram, from the ANU Research School of Earth Sciences, said the findings explained the mystery over why Antarctica was not warming as much as the Arctic, and why Australia faces more droughts.
VIDEO: Dr. Nerlie Abram, from the Australian National University, explains why ocean winds have stopped Antarctica from warming as much as other continents. Her research also explains droughts in Southern Australia.
“With greenhouse warming, Antarctica is actually stealing more of Australia’s rainfall. It’s not good news – as greenhouse gases continue to rise we’ll get fewer storms chased up into Australia,” Dr Abram said.
“As the westerly winds are getting tighter they’re actually trapping more of the cold air over Antarctica,” Abram said. “This is why Antarctica has bucked the trend. Every other continent is warming, and the Arctic is warming fastest of anywhere on earth.”
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While most of Antarctica is remaining cold, rapid increases in summer ice melt, glacier retreat and ice shelf collapses are being observed in Antarctic Peninsula, where the stronger winds passing through Drake Passage are making the climate warm exceptionally quickly.
Until this study, published in Nature Climate Change, Antarctic climate observations were available only from the middle of last century.
By analysing ice cores from Antarctica, along with data from tree rings and lakes in South America, Dr Abram and her colleagues were able to extend the history of the westerly winds back over the last millennium.
“The Southern Ocean winds are now stronger than at any other time in the past 1,000 years,” Abram said.
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“The strengthening of these winds has been particularly prominent over the past 70 years, and by combining our observations with climate models we can clearly link this to rising greenhouse gas levels.”
Study co-authors Dr Robert Mulvaney and Professor Matthew England said the study answered key questions about climate change in Antarctica.
“Strengthening of these westerly winds helps us to explain why large parts of the Antarctic continent are not yet showing evidence of climate warming,” said Dr Mulvaney, from the British Antarctic Survey.
“This new research suggests that climate models do a good job of capturing how the westerly winds respond to increasing greenhouse gases,” added Professor England, from the Climate Change Research Centre at UNSW.
“This isn’t good news for farmers reliant on winter rainfall over the southern part of Australia.”
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Dear Anthony
Sigh…
I would like some funding to continue my research into historical climates.
I am willing to put anything into the title of the submission in order to secure some funding, no matter how fanciful.
However, official researchers seek to be cornering the market in all possible explanations of what co2 can do. We need a brainstorming session with readers here so they can submit some plausible titles, no matter how daft they are on closer examination. The only rules are that the words ‘co2’ ‘1000 years’, ‘escalating’ and ‘alarming’ should be somewhere in the title.
tonyb
Oh, Matthew England is a co-author.
That tells you everything you need to know.
If this were true we wouldn’t be worrying about global warming at all. It would be ice age time. The problem is, despite this so-called “consensus,” these people can’t keep their stories straight and literally say opposite things which contradict each other. It’s obvious many of these people have no clue what they are talking about.
Could someone please explain how wind speed and direction can be measured from 1000 year old proxy samples?
Climate change is responsible for the kidfnapping of girls in Nigeria, apparently.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/11/UK-Guardian-climate-change-to-blame-for-Nigerian-girls-kidnapping
All hail the mighty CO2!
Yes, Prof England has previously denied that there has been a hiatus in warming in the past 17 years.
Looking forward to seeing his 1000 years of wind data.
Models and the UNSW? Another load of “ship of fools”?
Garbage: …
{“With greenhouse warming, Antarctica is actually stealing more of Australia’s rainfall. It’s not good news – as greenhouse gases continue to rise we’ll get fewer storms chased up into Australia,” Dr Abram said.
“As the westerly winds are getting tighter they’re actually trapping more of the cold air over Antarctica,” Abram said. “This is why Antarctica has bucked the trend. Every other continent is warming, and the Arctic is warming fastest of anywhere on earth.”}
Even smellier garbage:
{“This new research suggests that climate models do a good job of capturing how the westerly winds respond to increasing greenhouse gases,” added Professor England, from the Climate Change Research Centre at UNSW.}
Caustic comments at
http://joannenova.com.au/2014/05/antarctica-stealing-australian-rain-prof-matthew-england-anu-unsw-nature-struggle-to-get-cause-and-effect/
Wait… CO2 is trapping cold air over the Antarctic…. but CO2 is causing cold air to break free and flow all over, from the Arctic……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………?
Magical
‘By analysing ice cores from Antarctica, along with data from tree rings and lakes in South America, Dr Abram and her colleagues were able to extend the history of the westerly winds back over the last millennium.’
Isn’t there anything dendrochronology can’t do? Not only temperatures but wind strength too.
Get your magical tree he -ere.
Sometimes I’m glad I don’t have a uni degree, being a mere ex-tradie. (retired)
And on the same day, the Australian provides a fact that renders the UNSW “paper” irrelevant and akin to “throwing the bones”. My alma mater is becoming a laughing stock and these dills are devaluing my degree, when they publish absolute rubbish.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/antarctic-sea-ice-at-record-levels/story-e6frg8y6-1226913708208#mm-premium
Arctic Multi year sea ice is increasing and the Antarctic sea ice is massive. Can anyone say “albedo”? “Climate experts” are at a loss to explain this. Meteorologists, on the other hand, can.
http://www.boston.com/news/weather/weather_wisdom/2014/05/how_is_the_arctic_and_antarcti.html
ACtually it is only SW Western Australia and Tasmania that have had their rainfall reduced which started in about 1960. WA has been otherwise attributed to land clearing. The rest on the continent is a bit to a lot wetter.
Maybe I’m a bit thick, but I thought that Australia had been experiencing unprecedented flooding that was all the fault of AGW?
What’s the logic founding this hypothesis? The CO2 and/or it’s absorbed heat is unevenly distributed in the troposphere?
Would this also be the same voodoo maintaining the Himalayan glaciers?
I only ask………
Only that the Earth has not experienced warming in the last 13-17 years, depending on temperature data sets.
RR –
Australia is, always was, and doubtless will continue to be a frustrating succession of droughts and floods.
It’s essentially just a big desert island with a green fringe and 90% of us sensibly live on the green fringe. I think you’d like it.
Of course, the Israelis figured out how to raise crops in a desert several decades ago…
One could hastily deduct that CO2 is evenly distributed in the troposphere and so would it’s absorbed heat. What’s driving the winds again?
i thought that GHG’s are supposed to increase storm events across the globe not reduce rainfall.
Those dammed models again. How many times do we have to repeat:- If models do not follow reality it is the model that is wrong not reality.
Forget Mother Gaia, it seems CO2 rules the world.
I understand how you could develop theories about temperatures and precipitation, etc from analysis of ice cores, tree rings and lakes. But I have no clue how you would deduce wind speed from 1,000 years ago.