People send me stuff.
A dear friend sent me a PDF that contained a description of the ‘National Climate Declaration’ that had some big name company logos stamped all over it. See below:
![BICEPClimateDeclaration_9.18[1]](http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/bicepclimatedeclaration_9-181.jpg?resize=640%2C827)
Intrigued, especially since I had never heard of it before, I decided to go to http://www.climatedeclaration.usĀ I half expected to find it connected to Obama’s OFA or maybe weepy Bill McKibben’s 350.org. Nope.
I was immediately redirected here: http://www.ceres.org/bicep/climate-declaration
Which was my first red flag, it went to an environmental NGO, called “CERES” located in Boston, MA. The website climatedeclaration.usĀ doesn’t exist as its own website, it’s just web flypaper for the NGO.
I noted that I could sign up as an individual, or as a company. Looking at some of the big name companies there, I decided to see what sort of qualifications and actions might be needed. So, I clicked on that and was presented with a simplistic form. Looking at the web page coding underneath, I decided that there wasn’t likely much more to it, so I decided to put it to the test.
I signed up Pacific Gas and Electric’s well known public information officer, “Reddy Kilowatt” to see if they would reject such an obvious and ridiculous character representing PG&E.
I thought surely they’d have some sort of checks and balances for major corporations to sign up. I thought sure they’d have some sort of requirement to prove that your corporation was indeed a responsible steward of the environment, and against climate change not only in words, but in deeds.
Sadly, no. See the screencaps:
I thought to myself, why stop there?
It seems they’ll take anybody with a mascot:
And predictably, I got a confirmation email.
Looks like the ‘National Climate Declaration’ is just another green petition scam that anybody with an email address can join. I suspect they’ll hit you up later for donations. I’ll advise if that happens.
Beware of the wooden horse.
Paul
Brown noses?
A warm inner glow is had by all.
Did you sign up the president?
Oh God thatās funny. The “Dear Tonyā had me laughing out loud.
Looks like you are putting your Big-Oil money to good use …
There is no down side to getting on the bandwagon. So…..why not? Even if you know it is all a lie.
Regards
Steamboat Jack (Jon Jewett’s evil twin)
I being the kind and nice person I am, I invited Walter K. up to log on and sign up as the Pres. of M.I.T. (class himself as in the top 1% of the top1%) and join as “Reddy Fix The Facts Watts”
The tip of the Crony Capitalism iceberg – exhibition of the Greens conjuncting with Government –
. . . “All your contracts are awarded to us”
(a ‘weak play’ on “All your base are belong to us”)
I predict more congress critters and lobbyists will get rich and contribute to the ‘wealth’ of the area in and surrounding ‘the beltway’ (Interstate 495, I-495, the “Capital Beltway”) area.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_495_(Capital_Beltway)
“… Bye, bye MIss American pie … ” (The day the Merican Dream Died)
I’m creating a list of companies to boycott.
Reminds one of that old joke among manufacturing engineers –
. . “What is the operational difference between a sn ithead* and a brown noser?
. . Good depth perception and excellent process control.”
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* You know what I mean.
Big oil is just givin’ it all away. Money to us, money to them,….. So, now that we’re all shills, the debate can proceed?
@ RobRoy says:
March 3, 2014 at 7:06 pm
“Iām creating a list of companies to boycott.”
That was my first thought. I saw New Belgium’s logo and thought, “Heck, I’m not a big fan of their beer, anyway…” And then I saw Diageo!!!! Oh my goodness! My Guinness?!!?
D@mn. Good thing I brew my own beer. Gonna miss Guinness…
Where’s Apple on that list?
Good job, Tony Thetiger. Well played…
You might want to redact your email.
I started to sign up Hannibal Lecter as the Head Chef at the 21 Club in NYC.
But came to my senses.
From their text:
“Today those things are threatened by a changing climate that most scientists agree is being caused by air pollution”
Not even close. Does anyone bother to read what they sign?
Notify the American Nazi Party and the KKK, they may wish to join the struggle.
@ _Jim says:
March 3, 2014 at 7:09 pm
bushbunny says March 3, 2014 at 6:49 pm
Brown noses?
Reminds one of that old joke among manufacturing engineers ā
. . āWhat is the operational difference between a sn ithead* and a brown noser?
. . Good depth perception and excellent process control.ā
LOL! Can I quote you? I work w/Mechanical and Electrical Engineers…poor depth perception and process control…gonna get a lot of mileage outta that!
7;->
(yeah, they love me already…no harm done)
‘Scuse me. Email address from screencaps.
REPLY: yes, public here also: http://wattsupwiththat.com/about-wuwt/compose-story/
Anthony
And here come the legendary Koch brothers…
Isn’t Tony the Tiger the Frosted Flakes mascot? Same name for the Exxon tiger?
Exxon-Mobil is #2 on the Fortune 500 list (http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2012/snapshots/387.html) with profits of $41 Billion.
Meanwhile, the excellent 50-1 project didn’t get it’s relatively paltry funding goal fulfilled.
What could possibly be wrong with that picture?
I’ve often referred to Exxon-Mobil as the “Climate Change Denier Dog that Didn’t Bark”. With their deep pockets, they could crush CAGW mythology. They could send Nir Shaviv and Christopher Monckton on a well advertised speaking tours, take out ads showing the “pause” in global temperatures, educate the population about the real extent of sea level rise, Donna LaFramboise’s findings, etc., etc.
They appear to be deeply invested in the status quo, and, just like Denis Rancourt claimed, are going to keep pumping their oil and selling it. If anything, they will not “bark”, but rather go along with the CAGW scam, as long as it doesn ‘t hurt their profits
Indeed, keeping oil in the ground longer, while demand steadily rises, is one way to keep those billions in profits rolling in. Central to such a strategy are
a) having governments raise the price of oil via taxation (e.g., carbon taxation), but not so much that worldwide demand contracts
b) keeping large amounts of oil off the market, via warfare and destabilization of oil producing countries (see Greg Palast)
c) KEEPING ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES FROM EVER BECOMING VIABLE COMPETITORS
The son of the late, great inventor Dr. Alvin Marks has personally communicated to me that Exxon Mobil (as well as the US government) worked to suppress his father’s lumeloid technology. I’ve also known, from 30 years ago, that US auto companies suppress gas saving technologies (long story, 2nd hand info). At MIT, they’ve held conferences on supposedly discredited cold fusion, and here in NJ, a small research group has beat the big, hot fusion projects in a couple of parameters, funded by, relatively speaking, peanuts. (See http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/08/1071933/-In-the-race-for-fusion-a-dark-horse-takes-the-lead ) I’ve met Eric Lerner, and hung out with his friend and former roomate. Last I heard, this brilliant guy has to waste his time and energy trying to get funding, despite his track record.
Exxon Mobil is no more your friend than the deluded Greenies spreading the CAGW religion.
With Climate Nazis embedded in all US Gov agencies from the Pres. to the IRS, Interior, and on and on and on — and especially those dealing with regulation and trade — it becomes advantageous to āgo with the flow.ā Doing otherwise can take a negative directly to the bottom line. One might argue that officers and board members have a fiduciary responsibility to partner with such groups as this.
I suggest you send an invoice to the companies you signed up and ask for your customary fee for services rendered be paid to your bank account. Or, suggest you will give up your fee if they send a donation to the Salvation Army or some such group.
How about signing up the following:
Theman Inthemoon
Martian Aliens
Elvis Presley
God Dammit
And don’t forget your dog.
Well,, it was a relief to find that ExxonMobil wasn’t really on the list. You might want to modify the heading to save some folks from having a heart attack.
Metamars: Re: Keeping the oil in the ground. Ever hear of present value? A dollar a hundred years from now is worth…well, nothing, today.
I find it “interesting” (and appalling) that top public financial officials from the states of New York and Connecticut are on the Board of Directors for Ceres:
http://www.ceres.org/about-us/who-we-are/board-of-directors
Those people oversee many billions of dollars of public employee pension fund investments. Even if one believed (ha ha) that ‘green’ investments made financial sense for public pension funds, it is a fundamental conflict-of-interest for public officials to serve on such a Board while serving in govt.
Only naive or demented people could believe that there can never be divergence of interests between an organization like Ceres and the long-term financial interests of public employees and pensioners.
What if the best financial investments involve avoiding or betting against some of the Ceres partners??????
Perhaps we should all sign up as many real and fictitious entities as possible this evening, before they may correct this vast gaping hole in their operations….. It could be great to present the news media with a hilarious and/or scandalous list of enrolled companies….. Not that there are many real reporters who might take interest in this “green scandal”…..
Opra-tunety lost.
ESSO Tiger</b)
1959 (ESSO) An advertising copywriter in Chicago comes up with the advertising slogan āPut a tiger in your tank.ā Name not given at that time, and I did not find one.
Lots of images and usages. Here is one from almost 50 years ago.
http://whirledofkelly.blogspot.com/2010/10/biggerest-idea.html
Time to sell your Exxon shares – they’re onviously run bt nitwits.
In addition to CT and NY, there is the CEO of CalPERS (pension funds for California public employees), who chairs the Board of Directors for this farce:
ESSO Tiger Sorry! (hangs head)
100 MPG carburetor lore? Sorry, but carb technology was NEVER going to get you optimum gas mileage under varying conditions (including temperature, altitude changes), NEITHER WAS any other simple mechanical system that delivered fuel into the intake air stream .. it was not until port fuel injection tech came along that mileage and performance really took off. Remember, a constituent part of this is MEETING EPA emissions requirements.
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metamars;
Iāve also known, from 30 years ago, that US auto companies suppress gas saving technologies (long story, 2nd hand info).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yeah. Some auto companies have fuel technology that could net them tens of billions of additional market share and monster profits, but they suppress it. Sure. Let’s go with that.
Skiphil says:
I say again,
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/02/mind-blowing-apple-ceo-tells-deniers-to-get-out-of-apple-stock/#comments (4:39 PM)
I remember Herr Doktor Mann accusing skeptics of being ‘oil industry shills’ and ‘fossil fuel puppets”. Would that apply to promoters of the Climate Change declaration, signed by Big Oil companies? Or should oil firms be now regarded as converted to the true faith, and therefore ‘redeemed’ from previous sins?
To historians of the future, we bequeath for all practical purposes, an infinite amount of intellectual fodder.
@ p@ Dolan
Drink Murphy’s Irish Stout, it’s better than Guinness (owned by Heineken).
@DocBud:
Good tip! I like Murphy’s. There are a number of others, as well, (Samuel Smith’s Oatmeal Stout, for example) that are terrific. But I practically grew up on Dublin Buttermilk
*sigh*
‘Tis a sad thing. My distant ancestor Niall would take 9 MORE hostages! I’ll simply live w/out… As we say in Surfer Japoanese, “Bummer desu, Dude!”
Interesting, perhaps minor, but more likely a dip into the mindset:
“The very foundation of our country is based on fighting for our freedoms and ensuring the health and prosperity of our state, our community, and our families.”
Yep – The State’s freedoms and Prosperity first, followed by the community, then families – oh, and don’t even bother with the freedom and prosperity of the individual. Notice how this is flipped upside down and backwards? But isn’t the whole scam about increasing state power and control by manipulating the fears of the voting individual thus transferring that power to the government self appointed elites while creating a money flow to sustain that power?
Yep – a telling Freudian slip there!
Those of us who work to deter big corporations from becoming handmaidens of the left may not recover from reading that story for some time.
Oh, that was hilarious!
The best laugh I had all day…
The CAGW disinformation religious cult is doing, as Tony the Tiger would say, Grrrrrrrrrrrrrreat!!!!…
Don’t try to tell me to “save energy” then try to sell it to me at the same time. I am the CEO, I have a marketing division that promotes a product to be better than my competitors product, which by the way is exactly the same product under a different name. The product make your car go down the road, but please don’t use it, we need to save energy…save the planet!
P.S. I put green dye into it so it would be a “Green” product. Now you can feel good about your stop and go trip to work and back home. Don’t you love my product now? It’s the responsible thing to do. Save the children.
The Exxon (Esso) tiger doesn’t appear to have a name…. Tony was selling Frosted Flakes of course, which makes the whole story that much funnier.
BUT, beware how those slime bags might spin this…. as some kind of fraud.
I do see that the sponsors are a pretty narrow group. There are some big names in there, some of whom know better than to sign something so corny. There could be more sleight of hand beyond the underlying identity.
DocBud says:
March 3, 2014 at 8:47 pm
@ p@ Dolan
Drink Murphyās Irish Stout, itās better than Guinness (owned by Heineken).
Murphy’s is much better..in some respects. Yes…now I am getting thirsty! But put some green stickers on the label…seize the marketing opportunity to be planet friendly. Embrace the change…the climate change. And put a tiger in your tank; remember to change the fuel filter …frequently…as it clogs with tiger fur.
Not a pretty sight, but, take heart, dear truth in science warriors. Look quickly enough when he reads any press releases about the above apparent deference to the Envirostalinists and you will see Tony the Tiger ( = Exxon) wink.
Exxon Mobil — STILL All About Petroleum — Yes!
“Words. Just words.”
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And since they valiantly held out against ethanol gas (in my area, anyway) long after all the other brands caved (they’ve had to cave on that one too, for now):
A little P.R. shout-out to Conoco Phillips!
#(:))
This doesn’t make any sense if you consider Exxon mobile just an oil company. But they’re also a natural gas company. And with solar and wind power needing peaking power plants when the sun isn’t shining and the wind isn’t blowing, which is most of the time. Those peaking plants just happened to burn lots of natural gas.
Well then, cheers and beers to Conoco…..and then came the ethanol…that actually lowers your fuel mileage and eats non metallic seals…and why is my service light on?. what is next? Oh…I know…little Green RF chips that track the car’s movement so you pay by the mile (already do via fuel mileage). Another seize the opportunity moment! But wait…electric cars are not paying gas taxes…that simply is not fair…but neither are bicycles and pedestrians…we need RFchips in everything and everybody!!…and fairness if we are going to have Green cars. I mean …. new taxes and new ways to collect those Green taxes…
Must be the Murphy’s:)
What a shocker.
Not at all – Corporate America is, needless to say, part of the elite.
The elites favor the climate change crusade. They also favor, for example, gay marriage. Again, no surprise, the biggest transnational corporations have planted their flags for gay rights.
At some point, the climate skeptics will be forced to confront deeper issues in our culture. Such as: who decides who is or is not a member of the elite? And what disqualifies someone for membership?
I clicked on “www.climatedeclaration.us” and it’s dead now.
You have discovered a theme-specific automatron website. They drive the conversation, you just float along. The only thing that matters to these sites is a valid email address and once they have that they stop listening and start talking.
These sites are designed around the principle that a sucker is born every minute and that many of them have computers. I think it was Bill Gates who first made this additional connection – these same people draw a paycheck. That is a resource.
@ Little Peaks (re: 9:33pm) — Cool!
It is still there.Unfortunately …for good entertainment click on “sitemap” ufda…
http://www.ceres.org/sitemap
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RobRoy says:
March 3, 2014 at 7:06 pm
Iām creating a list of companies to boycott.
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Well when you get to “Lord Arsen Seatpants of the Handshuffle Wank Bank” you can save your time. We don’t really do much business anyway…
Cynicism reigns.
@DocBud
Mmmm … Murphyās Irish Stout.
But of course, this can’t be true.
All Warmers know that all Big business, and especially Big Oil, is sending sceptics trillions of dollars to keep up Denialist blogs.
And most sceptics know that the Warmers are a pushing a crypto-Marxist plot to turn the entire world into version of North Korea.
So the idea that Big business is pushing the Warmist line does not fit either view.
Off topic, but could be an opportunity…beer and climate change. ..to expand Monday night chat.
Marie Louisa Murphy was a favored model of French artist, Francois Boucher who she posed nude for in this memorable and provocative portrait in Paris. Her beauty caught the eye of a royal valet who then introduced her to King Louis XV of France. According to brewery legend, Marie Louisa Murphy was the daughter of Daniel Murphy (‘Dan The Cobbler’), granduncle of James. J. Murphy, and the money she sent back from France provided the funding for the Murphy family’s business ventures, one of which was the brewery in Cork. Courtesy of the Murphy’s web cite.
…could not locate any Green beer.
This is, of course the realization of Dwight D. Eisenhower’s military-industrial complex warning that Oliver K. Manuel obsesses over endlessly. Ike was right, btw. It was only a matter of time before the three branches of government formed an unholy union with big business for the sole purpose of self-advancement, all within the bounds of the constitution, all enforceable by the nuclear might of the US military. That’s what happens when you don’t pay attention to the importance, health, and well-being of the 10th amendment.
“….I suspect theyāll hit you up later for donations.” “…and it’s simply the right thing to do.”
I can see you now in your fresh out of the mail box T-shirt.
logo
“Cerers” &
“Pacific Gas and Electric”
“Tackling Climate Change”
[snip off topic -mod]
Green Beer: http://www.howcast.com/videos/2483-How-to-Make-Green-Beer
SIGINT EX says:
March 3, 2014 at 10:22 pm
[snip off topic -mod]
That was a bit off the page.
Now it’s really off the page … literally. š
Guess the Harrison quote can go as well.
the Australian Govt is attempting to repeal CAGW legislation, which it was elected into office to do, but is being blocked in the Senate by Labor & Greens.
the Govt tries to point out the cost to business & individuals at every turn, but the MSM immediately rushes out headlines such as the following, which makes you want to scream:
Qantas contradicts govt: ‘carbon tax not to blame’
Alcoa denies carbon tax led to closures, job shedding
Rio Tinto: Carbon tax ‘not to blame’ for Gove closure
a little truth at Phys.org in the headline & opening paras but, from there, it’s all about how to have all the regulation anyway, because of “the urgency of coping with global warming” etc. ***the awful truth!
4 Mar: Phys.org: Clifton B. Parker: Carbon regulation burden heaviest on poor
The heaviest burden for climate change regulation costs falls on people ā especially lower income groups ā and not corporations, according to new Stanford research…
***The reason is that companies ultimately pass on those costs to people.
For the poor, basic necessities take up a bigger chunk of the budget than for the rich…
http://phys.org/news/2014-03-carbon-burden-heaviest-poor.html
Green beer also was a derogatory aspersion to mean a beer was not aged or had been produced through some short-cut process. One of those opportunity seize the moment things. It could have been the first action of the “Green” movement; cheapening out by making bad beer. Or at least produce a movement of another sort. Definitely not the right thing to do. š Stick with the Murphy’s…your teeth will like you for it.
“For the poor, basic necessities take up a bigger chunk of the budget than for the richā¦”
Good point. All the efforts by the Green Enviros have left the poor even further from what the “haves” have. The cost of energy and other moves have punished the poor the hardest.
I’ve been following the debate on CAGW since the 97/98 timeframe when I figured out for myself much to my chagrin and amazement that there was only the most remote possibility that the GCMs would be validated, as I understand the term (i.e. that accuracy had been established)
For a long time Exxon- Mobil was the bete noire that warmists would immediately castigate as the source of all evil.
Now it’s the Koch brothers, so how did this change come about.
I didn’t correlate this at the time, however I suspect that the change probably came about because of the exchange between the Priesthood at the Royal (Scientism) Society and XOM.
Royal Society tells Exxon: stop funding climate change denial
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2006/sep/20/oilandpetrol.business
Oil giant hits at ‘unfair’ attack by scientists
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2006/sep/22/oilandpetrol.climatechange
Under fire, Exxon Mobil touts environmental record
http://www.royalsociety.org.nz/2006/05/18/energy-usa-exxon/
Lindzen praises “principled” ExxonMobil
Exxon Mobil is “the only principled oil and gas company I know in the US.” — Richard S. Lindzen
http://www.heatisonline.org/contentserver/objecthandlers/index.cfm?ID=6388&Method=Full
http://cstpr.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/the_honest_broker/000951more_on_royal_societ.html
Society fights battle royal over creationism, global warming
http://www.nebscience.org/roysoc.html
Exxon Mobil CEO: āWhat good is it to save the planet if humanity suffers?’
Last updated Friday, May. 31 2013, 2:55 PM EDT
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/top-business-stories/exxon-mobil-ceo-what-good-is-it-to-save-the-planet-if-humanity-suffers/article12258350/
Big oil/gas does very nicely out of the CAGW scam – billions in subsidies to “do the right thing” by investing in inefficient renewables, plus the destruction of coal as an alternative energy source.
this is what the CSIRO and BOM have to say http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/bom-csiro-make-dire-climate-predictions/story-e6frfku9-1226844241944
Hilarious.
The only disadvantage is that we can no longer use a site like this to select the companies we want to boycott.
Now with the new ice age starting in 2014 sanity should return soon:
http://iceagenow.info/2014/03/video-ice-age-2014/
A couple of references
Gerard Atken IV, Dr. Alvin Marks’ son, hoping to complete his father’s vision (sorry, no recent communication):
http://my.firedoglake.com/metamars/2013/03/24/solar-energy-genius-vision-may-become-prototype-reality-by-the-end-of-the-year-lumeloid-35-85-efficiency/
(Dr. Marks, BTW, was probably America’s 3rd greatest inventor, after Edison and Tesla, in terms of number of patents; he had over 100 when he died)
Cold Fusion Course (non-credit) at MIT:
http://my.firedoglake.com/metamars/2013/02/18/cold-fusion-course-at-mit-last-month-enviros-and-fossil-fuel-junkies-both-pretend-not-to-notice/
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My information about Detroit squelching energy saving technology came from my Resident Advisor in college. A good friend of his worked in a Big Auto company, he came up with something big to save gas (no recollection of what). He got a big raise, a promotion, and the technology was shelved.
This made no sense to me, as better fuel consumption should help sell autos, until I heard Gary Null report on interlocking boards at major corporations.
metamars says:
March 3, 2014 at 7:32 pm
“Iāve often referred to Exxon-Mobil as the āClimate Change Denier Dog that Didnāt Barkā. With their deep pockets, they could crush CAGW mythology. ”
Big Oil is FOR carbon reduction policies. It puts their competition coal out of business.
The CRU at UEA has been founded with money from BP, for instance.
I can’t believe how deep the delusion is. Would be hilarious if the situation wasn’t so…well – desperate – we’re throwing so much money at this issue and there’s so much legislation and so many EPA rules….I fear what will happen if people don’t wake up soon…
Download the “kit”. It doesn’t copy well, so I couldn’t post it – the last page is really nauseating. If they succeed, it will totally destroy the economy (as if it hasn’t already)
To those who say “Iām creating a list of companies to boycott.” Don’t. You will play right into the eco-zealots hands.
Here is a (EMS i.e. David Fenton) press release from 1998 about CERES
I guess Polaroid saw the light and Coca-Cola discovered that IPCC science wasn’t the real thing. Fenton, as many readers of WUWT will know is the PR guru who set up RealClimate.org.
Mindy Lubber is President of CERES. Here is a page about her at the Skoll Foundation (i.e. Jeff Skoll, first president of eBay, executive producer and financier of An Inconvenient Truth). And her (inevitable) HuffPo page.
Incidentally, here is another (1997) EMS breakfast with John Kerry and Joe Romm.
And another (1998) with Kevin Trenberth.
A few interesting notes from their marketing materials. The Declaration was unveiled on April 10, 2013 with 33 founding signatories. Signing the Declaration doesn’t indicate support for any particular legislation. Signatories with more than $100 million in annual revenues will get their company logo attached to the Declaration. As Anthony has demonstrated, anyone (business or individual) can sign, there is no payment required to sign, no mandatory actions required to support the Declaration and no requirement to speak to the press. California has the greatest number of signers. Just about every ski resort in the country has signed it (probably afraid all the snow will disappear). Chico, CA (home of WUWT) has a signer — Klean Kanteen (under the category “Outdoor Industry Businesses”).
Yes, a good idea to soak customers for more money. Load of crap excuse to pontificate about how good you are by overcharging.
Premise: Many big corporations are not pleased at all, if someone uses their name/logo in any kind of activity without proper, i.e. written permission by said corporations.
Suggestion: Politely inform the PR-departments of said corporations about this climate-declaration-scam – because I suspect a huge scam in the making here – and then lay back and watch said corporations sue the blood out of CERES for the unapproved use of company logos and names.
POPCORN! Anyone?
forget the science its ‘simply the right thing to do’
The point of the web site is to supply the “smidgen” of truth other warmist will use to beat the drum. This one may get picked up by the warmist, cited by them, passed along to the media and the media repeats it using the usueal references. As pundits have said, it’s what’s repeated that counts.
I just signed up Russia posing as Vladimir Putin taking some time off from invading neighboring countries to deal with the real threat posed by climate change.
Sounds like a job for Kenji…
Layne says:
March 3, 2014 at 8:53 pm
I do see that the sponsors are a pretty narrow group. There are some big names in there, some of whom know better than to sign something so corny. There could be more sleight of hand beyond the underlying identity.
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Zactly. I was immediately suspicious when GE and Dupont were not on the list.
Hey y’all, it’s two weeks early for green beer.
Yes, as others have said, companies eventually give up fighting the good fight, and join the fascist alliance with government. My corp was involved with an enviro scare in the 80s. Our scientists proved the accusations against us were ridiculous. The press didn’t care; we were destroying Gaia. So we gave up, and changed the products to make the press happy. And charged more for them. Made more money. Hey, maybe fighting is the wrong approach!
I love all the 100 mpg carburetor talk. It seems bad ideas never die.
This is a nice example of greenmail: This NGO parasite (but I repeat myself) is misusing the logos of major companies.
But what is the price they pay if they fight?
Being labeled by big green as “anti-climate”.
And if they resist giving money on top of their logo being used, then they are in thrall to the Koch brothers and will certainly be visited by friendly agencies from the government to help them see the light.
Tony the Tiger works for Kellogg’s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_the_Tiger
Kellogg’s should want more CO2 since that benefits corn and sugar cane growth, the main ingredients of Sugar Frosted Flakes.
Anthony, might I suggest you advise those companies that you have enrolled of your actions so that they may opt out should they chose to?
REPLY: No need but I’ll send a note to CERES just in case there are incapable of realizing that this test done in jest exposed how weak their system is. – Anthony
I should sign up Snuffy Smith. I mean he is all for ethanol use with his moonshine still.
Apparently America’s “ability to lead the world in technology and create jobs” requires climate
change. Apparently it’s that lack of climate change over the past two decades that have done our economy so much harm. Makes perfect sense to me. In the past technology lowered prices and improved standards of living. The new climate-driven technology does the opposite. Other than that …
Big oil! Big oil!! Big Oil!!!
I also had one of my “employees” sign the petition for our “company.” My company’s name is Holstein’s Holistic Methane Sequestration and Elsie Hereford signed the petition for us as CFO (which of course stands for Chief Flatulence Officer). Our company is headquartered in Santa Flatula, New Mexico. We have already been congratulated for signing this important petition.
So, there must be some more “bona fide” signers. The corporations who declare they’re out to profit from climate change efforts.
Taking out the references to “climate change”, we get this:
“Doing the things that are hard. And seizing opportunities. The very foundation of our country is based on fighting for our freedoms and ensuring the health and prosperity of our state, our community, and our families. Today those things are threatened. But just as America rose to the great challenges of the past and came out stronger than ever, we have to confront this challenge, and we have to win. And in doing this right, by saving money when we use less electricity, by driving a more efficient car, by choosing clean energy, by inventing new technologies that other countries buy, and creating jobs here at home, we will maintain our way of life and remain a true superpower in a competitive world. In order to make this happen, however, there must be a coordinated effort āwith America taking the lead here at home. Leading is what weāve always done. And by working together, regardless of politics, weāll do it again.”
Not so bad.
Of course, if we put the “climate change” references back in, then shouldn’t we remove the “regardless of politics” phrase?
Just making an observation.
My comment still stands,
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/03/for-all-you-idiots-that-think-climate-skeptics-are-lavishly-funded-by-big-oil-read-this/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/04/climategate-cru-looks-to-big-oil-for-support/
Coach Springer said: “So, there must be some more ābona fideā signers. The corporations who declare theyāre out to profit from climate change efforts.”
Well, perhaps at last the enviro-rads are granting a dispensation to make a profit, since normally profits are regarded as evil – promoting income inequality and such. But if you “share” the profit with them, then it’s OK.
The best thing about that urban myth was “one of the big car companies bought the rights [to the 100 mpg carburetor] and then kept it off the market.” Why would a car company do that? Wouldn’t the competitive advantage of a 100 mpg carburetor give a car company of big leg up over the other car companies? And why is the inventor still living in obscure poverty? Also, patents must be filed in the Patent Office, along with detailed drawings and descriptions. Patents only last for a set number of years.
So … I take it you are not an engineer, and if I say the word think ‘physics’ you think I have just uttered another relatively common seven letter word? This is the problem with the ‘world’ today; more ‘Dunning-Kruger effect’ seen on a more and more frequent basis, thanks to the wide-reaching ‘internet’.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
metamars, you proudly join the ranks of others deeply entrenched in a Cargo-cult-like world who need not burden themselves with the physical limits of reality …
Have you not be paying attention? Exxon Mobil have been a bunch of greenie socialists for a few years now and have come out in favor of a carbon tax:
http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/current-issues/climate-policy/climate-policy-principles/overview
Somebody please sign up the Koch brothers and James Inhofe, quickly. I need a good laugh right about now.
REPLY: The point has been made, no need to take it further – Anthony
So “big oil” is now paying off the Alarmists. Quel surprise.
JohnWho says:
March 4, 2014 at 6:27 am
Taking out the references to āclimate changeā, we get this:
But just as America rose to the great challenges of the past and came out stronger than ever, we have to confront this challenge, and we have to win.
Not so bad.
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I take it you are incapable of noticing the collectivist bent. Take the references to “we” out.
Gamecock says:
March 4, 2014 at 7:04 am
I take it you are incapable of noticing the collectivist bent. Take the references to āweā out.
OK, we can do that.
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This is the problem with … um, can I use the term, the ‘Keepers Of Odd Knowledge’ (K.O.O.K. for short) have is, they fail, time after time to cite or reference the ‘principals’ (or principal material) in (or on) the controversial subjects they engage in.
Rather than link to a ‘fringe’ website like FDL, WHY NOT link to the actual videos of the MIT IAP course itself (conducted by the principals Drs Hagelstein and Swartz)? Hmmm? Ya got something against ‘principal evidence’ maybe? Rather than be fed the ‘thin’ soup through some intermediate website like firedoglake (that name making NO sense whatsoever BTW) …
If you have ANY scientific or physics background AT ALL, you will appreciate viewing that course as conducted THIS YEAR (2014) at MIT back in late January (27th thru 31st) … full set of vids (about 15 hours total) can be accessed HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ColdFusionNow
To any one else, PLEASE view the referenced video series (in their entirety – about 15 hrs worth!) before making comment. This video series covers the subject from soup to nuts beginning with a review of Pons and Fleischmann (and before, including phenoms seen by other researchers involving Hydrogen loading of Palladium) and the factors that were discovered which prevented various other labs from replicating the _results_ P and F saw.
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Is Kenji going to register? Business name could sidetrack this thread. Maybe not.
Humm, how about Wattsup Withthat & Associates
Exxon-Mobil knows that world needs their products. I know that the world needs their products. Most of the readers of this blog probably know that the world needs their products. The concept of the inelastic demand curve is taught in Economics 101.
If the “National Climate Declaration”, or the EPA, or Greenpeace, or anyone else, manages to artificially inflate the price of Exxon-Mobil products, then guess what? The world will still need Exxon-Mobil products. They will still be produced. They’ll just be more expensive. Exxon-Mobil, or successors, will still be there.
Whether they have genuinely signed up to this declaration or not, they can afford to bide their time and pay lip service to fashionable political movements as they go along.
Isn’t anybody going to sign up Hezbollah and Hamas. Both outfits are favorites of the left and each can deliver the big bang for the cause.
@_Jim
You must have a hard life, indeed, having to suffer KOOK’s, such as myself, who dared to link to their own diary which, they knew, they had provided links to IAP courses, themselves. How ever did you manage survival, having to look up a link to an even more recent MIT course, which a lesser mortal, like myself, was not aware of? I’ll bet you would have sacrificed your very life, to prevent the readers of WUWT from doing a 10 second google search, eh? You’re quite an extraordinary human being, aren’t you?
For you information, I have a bachelor’s degree in physics and math, and have done graduate work in applied math. Thankfully, I never had a professor as obnoxious as you.
āLord Arsen Seatpants of the Handshuffle Wank Bankā
Sorry Lew, They’re on my list.
No more deposits from me.
The government can make or break the big oil companies, and not just through the withholding of licenses. Imagine all the dirt the NSA has on their execs. Mistresses, odd sexual proclivities, family scandals, insider trading etc. The big oil companies are more beholden to the government than almost any other entity.
a followup to the brown nose comments: years ago our friends from Japan were eager to learn American slang, and were curious about our term “110 ohm nose”.
We explained: standard marking for a 110 ohm resistor = 3 brown rings.
@kenw:
I’m a retired Navy Electronics Technician…and in the 32 years since I graduated from “A” School, I have NEVER heard that one!! Gah! The things I missed out on!!
I can’t even say we didn’t need that term ’cause we didn’t have any brown nosers—!
Oh, the opportunities missed!!!
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Does this mean that they think they can make money cleaning up the environment? Isn’t that a good thing?
Does NCAR/UCAR have mascot that can join the party.
I am sure Ken T. would not mind. Maybe he would find his missing heat….
Exxon Mobil joining the scam comes as no surprise – contrary to the hypocrisy spouted by alarmists, it is they and not skeptics who are financed by Big Oil. Big Oil funds and encourages alarmism because it expects to make money off the carbon credits promoted by alarmists (the credits being an increment to consumer costs, effectively transferring wealth from low- and middle-income people to billionaires)..
@ Janice Moore:
Great video! They were still using the “Put a Tiger in your Tank” when I was a kid… but all in all, I preferred Tigger to Tony Tiger..! (Hawaya?)
@ highflight56433 says:
March 3, 2014 at 9:54 pm ‘Ave another Murphy’s for me…in fact, have two: I’m thirsty!
Tell ya a secret I learned in the Navy: anyone can find a reason to say something can’t be done. The sailor who says, “Sure! Let’s give it a whirl!” is someone to watch, carefully, ’cause he’s likely to do something dangerous! What kind of sailor does something without threats from the Chief??!? But I digress: I used to think there were only two kinds of people in the world: those that thought there were only two kinds of people, and those who didn’t care about such things. Then I learned I was really the THIRD kind of people— It goes like this: a pessimist sees the glass as half empty, and an optimist sees it as half full, right? Well I’M a SUPER-optimist, because I sees it as I’m halfway to my next beer!
Sadly, it’s Tuesday, and I gotta work tomorrow (sorry, dirty fourLetterWord!), so I’m drinking coffee, the sailor’s other vice…
Oh, but I was telling about the three mos’ dangerous things in the Navy, least to most: An Ensign saying, “In MY experience…”, a Lieutenant saying, “Hey! I’ve got this GREAT idea!” and most dangerous, the XO saying, “Gentlemen, this one should be easy….”
So I just signed the petition as C.O. Jones, with the company Huevos de Torros of Bahia de Kino in Sonora… Sorta my own way of saying, “Nuts!” to ’em for their nonsense….(I hope there ain’t a real person at cojones@gmail….!)
Hey, Jones, C. O., LOL. Good — for — you. So glad you are feeling perky enough to write such a fun post. Iprayedforyoulastnightandtoday. Take care. Hope tomorrow is a better day! J.
Re: “Hawaya” — fine, thank you. #(:))
“Badges!? We don’t need no steenkin’ badges!!” (Treasure of the Sierra Madre not! Quote from one of my favorite movies, Blazing Saddles!)
Not sure where the aflatus for ol’ Cojo came from, but I gotta say, I LIKE that one! Unfortunately, someone already has that gmail account name..! Waaaaaah!
Ok, I feel better. Been a rough weekend. Flu. Snow. Deadlines that won’t go away and let me die quietly. On t’other hand, it’s just not in me to feel sorry for myself too long, and I’m such an obnoxious patient I annoy myself!
Gladta hear you’re well! Again, thanks for the positive thoughts & wishes…
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Does this mean the checks will stop coming from Big Oil?
GE not on board yet? They’re usually reddy to kill a watt in the name of environmental purity.
http://www.gecitizenship.com/
The other company I was wondering about did manage to get signed up, though:
Italian Fumigation & Services, Pakistan
I just now tried the link http://www.climatedeclaration.us and got a “page not found”.
Is there a place that I could view all the registered entities that joined on?
I wanted to register. I feel like I’ve been left out in the cold.
Great boycott list. Thank you Bicep!!!!