The other divergence problem – climate communications

I regularly get angry emails from people who are convinced that I’m single-handedly destroying the world with my opinion which is supposedly funded by “big oil” and the Koch brothers. Of course, having nothing else, that’s all part of the huge lie people like Dr. Mann likes to push, like this bit of libel over the weekend:

Mann_libel_koch

I’m dealing with Dr. Mann’s libel separately, but for the record I’ve never gotten a dime from the Koch brothers, or “big oil”, nor am I a “denier for hire”, and Dr. Mann knows this because he backed down from a similar claim in the past when challenged on it. Now, knowing that, he’s demonstrated malice, fulfilling one of the tests for libel.

That aside, and along the same lines, I recently got an email that included this claim:

“…your pathetic little attempt at pushing climate denialism isn’t working. Places like Real Climate and Skeptical Science are putting your little enterprise to shame.”

So, I thought I’d check and run some numbers to see if I’m shamed or not. Climateers often talk about their climate change cause being a “communications problem”. The numbers I’ve found seem to support that. Witness the new divergence problem:

These are rankings from Alexa.com Lower numbers are better, for example, Google is ranked #1.

WUWT_SKS-RC_rank

It seems that it’s not just globally strong for WUWT, but in the USA too. WUWT is about 8 times more popular in the USA than “Skeptical Science” (SkS), and about 15 times more popular than Real Climate (RC). See the Rank in Country column three:

WUWT_SKS_RC_Metrics_USA

Look at the bounce rate under Engagement Metrics. Note that over 2/3rds of visitors to SkS don’t engage further. Note also the time on site. WUWT readers spend three times more reading than SkS and almost 9 times more than at RC.

Hmm, well since the email was sent anonymously (as most of the rants are), and I don’t know where the person was located, maybe they were talking about Australia where SkS is located? Maybe that’s where they are kicking our butt? Note column three, Rank in Country (AU):

WUWT_SKS_RC_Metrics_AU

Eh, guess not- the ratio holds. RC doesn’t even have enough traffic in AU to do a comparison.

Even with Dana Nuccitelli’s signing on with the Guardian and making sure that every time he bashes me and/or WUWT in his column he uses a [nofollow] tag or web citation link to prevent web traffic, it seems that he hasn’t succeeded in keeping WUWT down nor in significantly growing his audience on “Skeptical Science” in the USA or Australia.

Maybe it’s in the UK, where the Guardian is located. Surely SkS is beating me there with all that mass media driven Guardian backed firepower? Note column three, Rank in Country (GB):

WUWT_SKS_RC_Metrics_UK

Apparently not.

Let’s expand the comparison a bit. My subscription to Alexa allows me to run up to 10 comparisons. I identified what I think to be the most widely read websites on climate that aren’t mixed in with part of a larger organization, making tracking their stats impossible. This of course precludes places like “Climate Progress”, which are part of the larger “Think Progress” or the Guardian, which has many other departments.

While I wish I could run more than 10 on the same graph,  here’s what I learned, again lower numbers are better:

WUWT-vs-all-climate

Surprisingly, not only is WUWT leading the pack by a significant margin, it has now surpassed the newspaper “Grist” which has become something of a climate centric enterprise. They also have a paid staff.

Note also Al Gore’s “Climate Reality Project”, which is dead last. It appears that Gore’s million$ don’t translate into traffic. That’s some “reality drop” for him.

That bump that Climate Depot got in late July was from being featured on “The Drudge Report” by the way. Good show Marc Morano.

The metrics are also telling:

WUWT-vs-all-climate_metrics

So to whoever wrote that email, thanks. It made me look deeper.

Truly, it looks like the climateers have a communications problem. People don’t seem to be engaging them like they used to. Personally I think people are seeing through it all, and angry, irrational, rants from people like Mike Mann don’t seem to be helping his cause at all. I can understand their cognitive dissonance though, because in the world where they exist, where everything is grant/funding driven, surely some former TV weather guy in Chico California and his collection of “flying monkeys” (in SkS parlance) can’t possibly be doing what he’s doing without some massive “big oil” funding behind it. Right? Surely the Koch brothers must be secretly paying for it, like Mann thinks. The truth is, WUWT exists on donations, some advertising revenue sharing managed by wordpress.com, and stamina. I couldn’t live on it, but I’m sure that won’t stop people like Dr. Mann from imagining all sorts of nefarious schemes, like his hilarious Christmas calendar episode.

I think that if I was not a broadcaster, I wouldn’t have the stamina to keep WUWT on the air. As a broadcaster, I learned long ago that dead air peppered with occasional feature rants doesn’t keep viewers coming back. It might work for awhile, but eventually people tire of it. That’s the lesson here. We can be thankful that we have so many examples of climate ugliness in the realm of the Climateers, because they drive people to the other side.

But most of all, thanks to my readers and volunteer moderators and contributors, because without all of you, WUWT wouldn’t be where it is.

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MarkUK
October 14, 2013 4:28 pm

Thanks Anthony, great post.
The Facebook “likes” stat made me smile.

Box of Rocks
October 14, 2013 4:29 pm

So do we need to help pay for a lawyer?

Phil's Dad
October 14, 2013 4:30 pm

‘course time on site could just be because we’re slow readers over here ;0)

Scott Basinger
October 14, 2013 4:31 pm

He wants to goad you into suing him to distract you from what’s really causing his pathetic little enterprise trouble. That would be good information.

PaulH
October 14, 2013 4:32 pm

I am 97% certain that a check from Big Oil will arrive in the mail any day now, probably before 2027 anyway. 😉

Otter
October 14, 2013 4:35 pm

I have been learning of late, that at least a few people out there who believe in AGW, don’t even know of the existence of SkS or RealClimate, and even if they did, they don’t think blogs have any reason discussing science anyway- and what are SkS and RC, but more blogs?

TomE
October 14, 2013 4:35 pm

Anthony: I have a few climate websites I follow, WUWT, Bishop Hill, IceAgeNow, Real Science. I always spend a lot of time at WUWT because there are some very interesting, informative comments, and the people who comment here are dedicated and know what they are talking about. There is at times some dialog which gets a little heated but that is part of the engaging and the putting forth of opinions. Keep at it, don’t get discouraged. I don’t use twitter, I see too many people like Mann who put out off the cuff ridiculous remarks which they should read the next morning. Much like the mornings after when too much to drink and a big mouth embarrass’s one.

October 14, 2013 4:35 pm

The “skeptics are funded by big coal & oil” accusation has served AGW promoters well since late 1995 when it started getting media traction, mostly because nobody in the mainstream media shot it down despite it being such an easy target. As AGW itself heads ever closer to going completely over the cliff, we really should pay more attention to how the accusation only has ever really had one source, along with who it was that pushed it along in the first place: http://gelbspanfiles.com/?p=326
When AGW only has two legs to stand on for its defense, “settled science” and “corrupt skeptics”, if you yank out the latter one for all the world to see, they will more readily be able to watch skeptics chisel out the last bits holding together the first leg.

Nic
October 14, 2013 4:37 pm

Thank you for everything you do. Sometimes you need to publish a story like this to remind people that common sense does win out in the end.

GeologyJim
October 14, 2013 4:38 pm

Great news, Anthony. WUWT is [and always has been] a class-act, full of information, analysis, and intelligent discussion.
Not bad for a little old meteorologist/tinkerer working out of his garage in Chico.
Contribution on the way

Nigel in Waterloo
October 14, 2013 4:38 pm

I guess the ‘consensus’ is not what they think it is?

POUNCER
October 14, 2013 4:39 pm

On the basis of how Armstrong Williams was damaged by accusations that he was paid to publish opinions he — probably — held anyway, I submit that comparable allegations that Watts is paid for his opinions is damaging.

October 14, 2013 4:40 pm

The entire voting public of Australia has seen what is happening with the warmist brigade and voted overwhelmingly in a record landslide to dump the left/green alliance. The primary campaign platform was the carbon DIOXIDE tax which will be repealed a soon as parliament sits.
Rock on WUWT keep up the good work!

Editor
October 14, 2013 4:43 pm

Mann, it is you who are being a “Koch”. Instead of insulting anyone who has the temerity to disagree with your bigoted, illogical and unscientific view of the climate, why not post on WUWT?
Somehow, I doubt you will, because instead of listening to sycophants, you will face a genuine debate.
Mann, I challenge your “science”! Are you prepared to debate?

Jquip
October 14, 2013 4:43 pm

So is Watts the best front man that the Koch Bros could buy? Well, Watts has rather well argued that he would be. If the Koch Bros wanted to buy a front man. And if they wanted a front man to speak about climate change.
Seems to me Watts should use his metrics to offer his consulting services to Mann. Pretty apparent that Mann needs better front men.

October 14, 2013 4:44 pm

It has been known for high profile individuals to “hide” income by directing it through proxies.
So, Anthony, how many millions of dollars has Kenji received from the Koch bros and Big Oil?

October 14, 2013 4:45 pm

I’m dealing with Dr. Mann’s libel separately, but for the record I’ve never gotten a dime from the Koch brothers, “big oil”, nor am I a “denier for hire”, and Dr. Mann knows this because he backed down from a similar claim in the past when challenged on it. Now, knowing that, he’s demonstrated malice, fulfilling one of the tests for libel.

Michael Mann is about as bright as I’d expect a mainstream (i.e., political) climate scientist to be, which is not very.

geran
October 14, 2013 4:46 pm

Perfect come-back!
Hit ’em with the TRUTH about AGW. Hit ’em with the TRUTH about your blog numbers!
Keep up the great effort.

Roger
October 14, 2013 4:50 pm

Are you going to start a cookie jar to assist with funding the libel action?

October 14, 2013 4:50 pm

Hit ‘em with the TRUTH about AGW.

The truth about AGW is it’s probably happening somewhat, but is a minor player in a larger orchestra.

Jarrett Jones
October 14, 2013 4:53 pm
Jim G
October 14, 2013 4:53 pm

Typical leftist propaganda, “it’s the rich guys or the big corporations” causing all the trouble. Personally, I am disgusted by the big oil companies’ “green” ads!! There is no need for them to make excuses for what they do. Their real crimes are, as oligopolies, charging the prices that they do and screwing their shareholders by paying executives way more than they are worth while paying poor dividends on their stocks. Note that when the lefties are in power they never do anything about the interlocking boards of directors that approve each others ridiculous compensation packages. I have been in the board room and know that of which I speak.

Theo Goodwin
October 14, 2013 4:53 pm

The people visiting RealClimate and such sites are old people out for one more tour before the thing disappears completely or they are youngsters terrified by their grandparents or great grandparents.

Gixxerboy
October 14, 2013 4:54 pm

Way to go Anthony. Keep up the excellent work.

pat
October 14, 2013 4:55 pm

I would make a joke that Mr Mann is full of crap, but he may take that as a conspiracy in that Koch owns Angelsoft toilet tissue.

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