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By WUWT Regular Just The Facts
The recent Adjustments/Corrections to the HadCRUT4 and CRUTEM4 Temperature Data Sets by the Met Office Hadley Centre and Climatic Research Unit got me thinking about the cumulative impact of Adjustments/Corrections on our temperature records. Bob Tisdale then triggered the first vein of this analysis when he recently produced and provided the graph above, which compares the ICOADS (International Comprehensive Ocean-Atmosphere Data Set) v2.5 data set to HadSST3, HADISST and ERSST.v3b. ICOADS is the original unadulterated Sea Surface Temperature record. HadSST3, HADISST and ERSST.v3b, all include adjusted/corrected ICOADS data, e.g.:
[Note: Bold and non-link underlines below are mine. I am testing out a new three speed review approach, i.e. if you really want to know it, read it all, if you want an overview, read the underlines and non italics, if you want the key concepts, read the bold and non italics. Please let me know in comments if this approach works for you.]
HadSST3 The SST data are taken from version 2.5 of the International Comprehensive Ocean-Atmosphere Data Set, ICOADS (external web page), from 1850 to 2006 and on GTS observations from 2007 onwards. HadSST3 is produced (a slightly more detailed description) by taking in-situ measurements of SST from ships and buoys, rejecting measurements that fail quality checks, converting the measurements to anomalies by subtracting climatological values from the measurements, and calculating a robust average of the resulting anomalies on a 5° by 5° degree monthly grid. After gridding the anomalies, bias adjustments are applied to reduce the effects of spurious trends caused by changes in SST measuring practices. The uncertainties due to under-sampling and measurement error have been calculated for the gridded monthly data as have the uncertainties on the bias adjustments following the procedures described in the paper.
The HadSST3 page references this paper “Improved Analyses of Changes and Uncertainties in Sea Surface Temperature Measured In Situ since the Mid-Nineteenth Century: The HadSST2 Dataset“, Rayner, et al., 2005, as the basis for their adjustments/corrections. It states within that:
a. Bias correction and its uncertainties Seawater has been sampled for temperature measurement on board ship by various different means at different times. This change from using insulated (wooden) to uninsulated (canvas) to partly insulated (rubber) buckets, engine room intakes, and hull sensors, along with changes in ships speeds, has introduced changing relative biases into the database. Folland and Parker (1995) developed corrections to be applied to SST data between 1856 and 1941 to ameliorate the effect of these changes and to bring the older data into line with data from the modern mix of measurement methods. For details of the development of these corrections, the reader is referred to Folland and Parker (1995).
Here’s Parker, Folland, M. Jackson (1995) paper MARINE SURFACE TEMPERATURE: OBSERVED VARIATIONS AND DATA REQUIREMENTS Here are some of the adjustments/corrections detailed within:
“Overall global warming in SST between the 1860s and the 1970s is about 0.3 °C greater in the present analysis than in Folland et al. (1984), mainly owing toreduced early corrections applicable under the assumption of the predominant use of wooden buckets (Section 3).”
“The largest, positive corrections are in early winter (December) over the Gulf Stream and the Kuroshio, where warm water, cold dry air, and strong winds cause rapid evaporative heat loss from the buckets. The corrections approach 1 °C by 1940 in these regions in early winter. Corrections are also large (around 0.4 °C to 0.5 °C by 1940) in all seasons in the tropics because of the high rate of evaporation when SST is high. Some negative corrections are made in mid latitudes in summer, mainly where the mean air temperature around the bucket exceeds the mean SST.”
Here’s their Figure 7, which shows the impact of their adjustments/corrections.
“How do we know that these corrections are trustworthy? The agreement of SST anomalies with largely independently corrected NMAT anomalies (Section 7 and Figure 7) is the strongest support to the results, and suggests that the impacts of future refinements and reduction of uncertainties in this area will be small.”
So who do you think provided the “largely independently corrected NMAT” SST anomalies, which are “the strongest support to the results”? Wait for it…
“Folland et al. (1984) applied corrections to NMAT to compensate for the historical increases of the average height of ship’s decks. These rose from about 6 m before 1890 to 15 m by the 1930s and 17 m by the 1980s. The corrections, based on surface layer similarity theory, removed a spurious cooling of about 0.2 °C between the late nineteenth century and 1980. On the other hand, Jones et al. (1986) used anomalies (not actual values) of regional, mainly coastal, land surface air temperature to adjust anomalies of nearby MAT. This was possible because anomalies of MAT and nearby ‘coastal’ land surface air temperature are found to be similar in recent data over periods as long as a decade, even though the absolute values differ considerably. However, because Jones et al. (1986) used COADS summaries, they were unable to separate NMAT from day MAT which are affected by historically varying, on-deck solar heating: their corrections therefore differed from those of Folland et al. (1984). In both these early studies, about 0.5 °C was subtracted from MAT for 1942-5, a period of non-standard measurement practices owing to war. “
Yes, that Jones et al. (1986) reference is Phil Jones, and Tom Wigley too, at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU), University of East Anglia (UEA). And it turns out that Rayner, Folland and Parker all worked at the Hadley Centre, Met Office.
This 1992 Jones and Wigley paper “Corrections to Pre-1941 SST Measurements for Studies of Long-Term Changes in SSTs” appears to be a seminal work in the development of Sea Surface Temperature record adjustments/corrections:
Many factors can influence a sea surface temperature reading (Barnett, 1985; Jones et al., 1986; Bottomley et al., 1990; Jones et al., 1991). Some of these introduce random errors while others result in systematic, non- cancelling errors. The most important factor is the method of collecting the sample, with the two basic methods being to haul a sample on deck with a bucket, or to measure the temperature of the intake water used for engine cooling. Here, we are concerned with bucket measurements. These are affected by the kind of bucket used, the exposure of and physical conditions surrounding the bucket, how long the bucket was left before reading the thermometer, and ship speed.
In COADS we do not have detailed information concerning the methods of measurement, nor any indication of what method was used for the individual readings that make up the data. There is,nevertheless, strong evidence that readings before 1940 were predominantly bucket measurements, while those since 1945 were predominantly intake measurements (Jones et al., 1986). Furthermore, it is likely that the major difference between the data for these two periods is the non-climatic bias due to the evaporative cooling of the canvas bucket, an effect which would clearly cause pre-1940 data to be cooler than post-1945 data (Jones et al., 1991).
In order to derive correction factors for the bucket-derived temperatures, we have modified the model developed by Folland and Hsiung, 1987 and Bottomley et al., 1990, to estimate the cooling of an uninsulated canvas bucket. The main difference between our work and that of Folland and Hsiung (1987) is that we have solved the governing equations analytically. This makes application of the model less demanding computationally, and it allows us to perform a variety of analyses.
2. The bucket model
If you have not already, you really should take a look at Section 2. “The Bucket Model” within Jones and Wigley’s 1992 paper, as it is a classic work in gibberish…
Continuing…
4. Correcting SSTs using the bucket approach
4.1 Optimum exposure time
For 1905-40, SSTs may be corrected using the evaporating bucket model. Although average ship speed probably varied over this period, within the range of likely values ship speed does not noticeably affect the implied exposure time. We have used a ship speed of 7ms-1. Wind speeds of 60% of the anemometer speed produce slightly better results than the 40% reduction case, and lead to slightly lower optimum exposure times (by less than 1 minute on average) so we have used this value. As the most likely exposure time lies in the range 3-6 minutes, we use 4 1/2 minutes in making final corrections.”
“4.2 The final correction factors
Final correction factors depend on the location, month and year. These variations are summarized in Figures 3 to 5. Correction factors vary slightly from year to year depending on coverage changes. Figure 3 shows mean correction factors for the Northern Hemisphere. Southern Hemisphere mean corrections are shown in Figure 4. The transition from small corrections in the early decades to larger corrections after 1905 is due to the change from wooden (i.e., better insulated and assumed to require no correction) to un-insulated buckets. Correction factors are largest in the winter half year. Northern Hemisphere corrections show slightly larger season-to-season variations. Figure 5 shows how the “winter” (JFM) and “summer” (JAS) – using Northern Hemisphere seasonal labels – corrections vary with latitude. Correction factors are lower in higher latitudes in general, particularly in the 45-75°N band where the “summer” corrections are near zero.”
It appears that the Team that brought us Climategate, was hard at work adjusting/correcting the Sea Surface Temperature record back in the 80s and 90s…
Here Jones and Briffa team up to summarize the purported basis of the Sea Surface Temperature record adjustments/corrections in their paper, “Global Surface Air Temperature Variations During the Twentieth Century: Part 1, Spatial, Temporal and Seasonal Details“, P. D. Jones and K. R. Briffa, 1992.
“Problems with the homogeneity of sea surface temperature (SST) data arise due to differences in the method of sampling the sea water. Before the second world war the sea water was collected in an uninsulated canvas bucket. There was a delay of a few minutes between sampling and measuring the temperature. During this time the water in the bucket generally cooled slightly by evaporative means. Since the second world War most readings have been made in the intake pipes through which sea water is taken onboard ships to cool the engines. This change in measurement technique was quite abrupt at around 1941, although there are still significant numbers of bucket measurements (using plastic and thus better insulated buckets) made today and some intake measurements were made prior to the second world war.
Comparative studies of the two methods indicate that bucket temperatures are cooler by 0.3-0.7″C (James and Fox, 1972). Correcting the SST data for this measurement change may seem, at first, seem an intractable problem. Folland and Parker (1990; 1991) of the UK Meteorological Office, how- ever, have developed a method for correcting the canvas bucket measurements based on physical principles related to the causes of the cooling. The cooling depends on the prevailing meteorological conditions, and so varies according to the time of year and location. Although the cooling is therefore a day-to-day phenomenon, the various influences are basically linear, so cooling amounts can be calculated on a monthly basis. The main free parameter is the elapsed time between sampling and reading. This is generally unknown and must be estimated from the data. The primary assumption in this estimation is that there have been no major changes in the seasonal cycle of SSTs over the period of record. Since the amount of evaporative cooling has a strong seasonal cycle in many parts of the world, an optimum exposure time can be chosen; namely that which minimizes the residual seasonal cycle in the corrected data.As a check on the validity of the method, the implied optimum exposure time turns out to be quite consistent spatially (see Jones and Wigley, 1990; Jones et al., 1991 for more details).
The major problem with the technique is that it is not known with any certainty what types of buckets were used to take measurements during the nineteenth century. Assuming canvas buckets rather than wooden buckets (which are better insulated) leads to corrections which infer SSTs warmer than land temperatures by about 0.2″C. The discrepancy almost disappears if wooden buckets are assumed. Although there is documentary evidence to support wooden bucket use during the mid-nineteenth century, considerable doubt remains about the transition from wooden to canvas buckets. The seasonal-cycle elimination method is not precise enough to choose between the two possibilities. The corrections used here have been derived using the wooden bucket assumption in the nineteenth century (see Jones et al., 1991 for details).
“The major problem with the technique” and “The Bucket Model” are that they rely upon an array of assumptions and estimations, which are based on very limited empirical data, and were made by people like Phil Jones and Tom Wigley, who have apparent biases, and appear to have been working the propagate the Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming narrative since the early eighties. It is interesting to note that the Jones et al. papers on Sea Surface temperature adjustments/corrections do not appear listed within the otherwise quite encompassing collection of Jones’ work on the UEA website.
Steve McIntyre has written extensively about bucket adjustments starting back in 2005, i.e. Changing Adjustments to 19th Century SST;
You may recognize Folland as a major IPCC author (Folland et al. [2001] is sometimes the citation). SST sampling is not homogeneous – it changed from buckets to engine inlets – engine inlet temperature ran a little hotter. Both canvas and wooden buckets appear to have been used. There are millions of SST measurements and how the measurement was done is not known for most measurements (as far as I can tell.) There are two main adjustments in Folland et al. The first is a one-time adjustment for from buckets to engine inlets in December 1941. This is premised on a comparison between the “corrected” NMAT temperature [ I haven’t checked what these “corrections” are] and the uncorrected SST temperatures.
Buckets and Engines, The Team and Pearl Harbor, Bucket Adjustments: More Bilge from RealClimate, Rasmus, the Chevalier and Bucket Adjustments, Did Canada switch from Engine Inlets in 1926 Back to Buckets?;
CA readers are aware that I discussed bucket adjustments on a number of occasions long before Thompson et al 2008, in particular, questioning the absurd IPCC assumption that all SST measurements switched from buckets to engine inlet on the day after Pearl Harbour. In March 2007, a year before Thompson et al 2007, in light of new historical information bucket usage, I provided a scoping estimate of the potential impact of a different changeover scenario, based on then-just-published Kent et al 2007. The direction of the impact is precisely the same as that shown in the present HadCRU estimates over 4 years later. The difference between the two appears to be that the present HadCRU estimate assumes that bucket changeover impact has ended by 1970, while, in my 2007 post (based on Kent’s evidence of widespread bucket usage in the 1970s), I presumed that the changeover continued until the 1990s.”
and HadSST3;
A new HadSST3 version has been recently published. It starts the process of unwinding Folland’s erroneous Pearl Harbour bucket adjustment, an adjustment that has been embedded in HadSST for nearly 20 years.
Folland’s erroneous adjustment had been originally criticized at CA in 2005 here and further discussed at length in March 2007 at CA here, a post in which I observed that no climate scientist had made any attempt to validate Folland’s bizarre adjustment and that correcting Folland’s error (through a more gradual and later changeover to engine inlets than the worldwide overnight change that Folland had postulated after Pearl Harbour) would have the effect of increasing SST in the 1950s, in turn, potentially eliminating or substantially mitigating the downturn in the 1950s that was problematic for modelers.]
However, not until Thompson et al 2008 (submitted Jan 2008; published May 2008) was the problem with the Folland adjustment clearly acknowledged by the “community”. The importance of Thompson et al in resolving the problems arising from the Folland adjustment were credited by Susan Solomon and Phil Jones in the commentary accompanying the Nature article.) Both lead author David Thompson and co-author Mike Wallace, though very prominent climate scientists, had negligible (or no) publishing history on the topic; as one commenter at James Annan’s blog put it, they came out of “left field”. Thompson was an ozone specialist. The other co-authors, John Kennedy of the Hadley Center and Phil Jones of CRU, were, of course, actively involved in the field.
Now over three years later, in a new SST edition (HadSST3), the Hadley Center has accepted and implemented Thompson et al’s criticism of Folland’s Pearl Harbour adjustment. Instead of implementing an overnight changeover to engine inlets in December 1941 as before, the changeover is now phased in through the mid-1970s. This results in changes to SSTs between 1941 and ~1975.
However, Steve does not appear to have dug too far into the pre-1945 adjustment/correction highlighted by Bob Tisdale’s graph.
One piece of this puzzle I can’t seem to find is the oft cited Bottomley et al., i.e.: Bottomley, M., C. K. Folland, J. Hsiung, R. E. Newell, and D. E. Parker, 1990: Global Ocean Surface Temperature Atlas. MIT Press, 20 pp. plus 313 plates. According to the Global Ocean Surface Temperature Atlas GOSTA:
This is the January 1993 version of the Global Ocean Surface Temperature Atlas (GOSTA) (Bottomley et al., 1990) referred to as ATLAS7 or MOHSST5. The data in this atlas are a compilation of marine observations from the United Kingdom Meteorological Office Main Marine Data Bank with some additional data from the US Fleet Numerical Oceanography Center. The Atlas includes the climatology of sea surface temperature (SST) and the difference between marine nighttime air temperature (NMAT) and SST. These climatologies are based on data collected between 1951 and 1980. Also included are SST and NMAT monthly anomalies from 1856 to 1991. The data were corrected to remove what are believed to be observational biases due to changes in instrumentation. These correction are based on scientific research summarized in the introduction to the hard-copy version of GOSTA (Bottomley et al., 1990). All data are presented on a 5 by 5 degree grid wherever data existed. The climatology of SST can be made available on a 1 by 1 degree grid.
The quality of marine observations is thoroughly discussed in the hard copy volume of GOSTA as well as in the references therein. The user should note that the data were collected using a variety of instruments and observational procedures aboard vessels of different shapes and dimensions.
Here is the GOSTA data, however I would like to see the “scientific research summarized in the introduction to the hard-copy version of GOSTA (Bottomley et al., 1990).” to understands what those adjustments/corrections are based on, but even Google Scholar comes up dry.
If anyone can find an electronic copy of Bottomley et al., 1990 and/or can offer additional information on the adjustments/corrections made to the to the Sea Surface record, please post them in comments.
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I looked at all this last year in an article on Judith Curry’s site. I also had the opportunity to discuss the article with John Kennedy of Met. Office
The exchange was frank and polite and quite lively at times. John was able to correct some errors I’d made in the text and give some other information about the “validation” process that we discussed in some detail.
I highlighted some of the same text you show here but also did quite a detailed look at the effects of the processing that Hadley does, on the data.
Search comments for my name of John’s since as usual there is lot of chaff to search though to find relevant comments. Here’s one exchange:
http://judithcurry.com/2012/03/15/on-the-adjustments-to-the-hadsst3-data-set-2/#comment-188237
Article head:
http://judithcurry.com/2012/03/15/on-the-adjustments-to-the-hadsst3-data-set-2/
I was a very avid scuba diver on the West coast and Mexico. The type measurements they are using is SPOT SPECIFIC – there can be a 30* difference in the top 20 meters of water. Now I have seen inverted layering where the cold was somehow forced up and over the warmer water in specific areas.
Thermolclines are common and I see no adjustment [guess] as they have done for other variations – this destroys any confidence in the entire data set in my opinion. Satellite buoys have been in the Pacific for a long time and Scripts has enough data to run super computers for years just to process the raw numbers. All this points to a selection or random picking of areas as large ocean areas can not be processed in one single time frame. Therefore is not really science it becomes like playing roulette with a super computer – yes you can generate all kinds of historical numbers but it is still just a best guess as to the next number.
Observation is not science it is study of a specific spot in a set time frame. Guess gives Grants.
The adjustments indicate sea temperatures were warmer in the past? That means the current temperatures aren’t as anomalous as thought?
Doesn’t this really mean that you should use the recorded values (which are the only actual data you have) and use other implied information to increase the error bars?
You could play with the error bars and how they are centred based on your assumptions. But the recorded value should remain unchanged.
If I read this right, scientists have used “corrections” to raise historic temperatures. This is obviously wrong, since that would lower the estimated rate of “global warming,” which, as you know, must only go upward with all corrections, homogenizations, and adjustments.
/sarc (as if necessary)
Dumb question, but has anybody taken an actual bucket full of actual water of known temperature and hauled it up the side of a boat-sized building and measured how much it cooled? My guess is the mass of the water (compared to the surrounding air) is large, and any error would be negligible, unless you dawdled.
I also wrote on sst’s last year at some length
http://judithcurry.com/2011/06/27/unknown-and-uncertain-sea-surface-temperatures/
I think this insulated bucket business is a bit of a red herring in as much the whole method of taking these measurements was flawed and the minuscule and highly technical difference between water samples from insulated or uninsulated buckets pales into insignificance when the methodology is considered
Basically a bucket was thrown overboard to varying depths according to the whim of the person doing the throwing. Varying depths in itself will introduce different temperature profiles. An often uncalibrated thermometer was stuck into the water. The thermometer might have been on a hook in the sun or on in a box in the captains cabin, either way it is unlikely to have come to ambient air temperature.
The temperature of the sample might have been taken immediately or the sample in the bucket left on the deck in the sun or shade. The length of time the thermometer was left in the water sample was crucial as was the fact of whether the water was cooking or cooling according to the weather conditions.
I did some sampling myself and got differences of 3 degrees c according to how deep the bucket descended and where it was placed, two patches of water a few yards apart often having a different profile, some water has warm patches and some cold patches as any swimmer knows.
The difference between taking the temperature of the water in the bucket immediately or after only ten minutes of it standing in the sun was another 5 degrees c.
To fill in a grid only one reading per year was required, although that would be an extreme but it would be rare to have say two readings a day in the same spot as per land instrumental readings.
Along the major well frequented sea routes there might be sufficient data to be of some interest but it would not generally fulfil the criteria of even land temperatures.
Sst’s are highly suspect before the 1950’s and to believe we have a reliable global record to 1850 or so is nonsense let alone to the Degree of accuracy that is implied from the data.
Like Greg I also had a number of off site discussions with John Kennedy from the met office who is an excellent chap although Greg and I were looking at different aspects of the SST question.
I am sure Mosh will be along soon to explain how reliable the data is but of all the climate data sst’s are the ones we should take with a large pinch of sea salt
Tonyb
Silly me – here I was thinking evaporation rate is also influenced by humidity / partial pressure of water vapour, something which is abundant in the tropics. All those stories of dripping wet tropical days must be nonsense – because according to Jones, higher temperatures cause higher evaporation rates. Oceania must be a very dry region.
Found a copy but it’s 250 dollars.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002NHEBD0/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used
I will not be paying for it.
Maybe you can request one from the Met office under FOIA.
jorgekafkazar says:
May 25, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Dumb question, but has anybody taken an actual bucket full of actual water of known temperature and hauled it up the side of a boat-sized building and measured how much it cooled?
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Yes Jorge, it doesn’t….there are no adjustments necessary at all
Greg Goodman says: May 25, 2013 at 1:57 pm
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I looked at all this last year in an article on Judith Curry’s site.
http://judithcurry.com/2012/03/15/on-the-adjustments-to-the-hadsst3-data-set-2
Yes, good stuff. Your Figure 2b is helpful in illustrating “the significant warming adjustment in the earlier half of the record that “corrects” for a change-over from wooden buckets that were never known to have been used for temperature sampling in the first place. impact of the adjustments/corrections”:
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Also, your conclusions are well stated and supported:
I also had the opportunity to discuss the article with John Kennedy of Met. Office
The exchange was frank and polite and quite lively at times. John was able to correct some errors I’d made in the text and give some other information about the “validation” process that we discussed in some detail.
He seems quite open, amicable and reasonable;
http://judithcurry.com/2012/03/15/on-the-adjustments-to-the-hadsst3-data-set-2
I wonder how he slipped through the Met Office’s hiring process…
Just The Facts, thanks for using one of my graphs. It’s Figure 15 from the following post:
http://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/multidecadal-variations-and-sea-surface-temperature-reconstructions/
I followed that illustration with a comparison of the source ICOADS marine air temperature data and the adjusted MOHMAT night marine air temperature data, which was used for the early adjustment:
http://bobtisdale.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/figure-16.png
Now here’s a graph that’s similar to the one you presented in your post, but in this one, I’ve replaced the Hadley Centre’s night marine air temperature data with the source ICOADS marine air temperature data. It gives you a better idea of what they did to come up with the current sea surface temperature data during the sketchy period before the 1940s:
http://i41.tinypic.com/91mkbt.jpg
Regards
Apparently the electronic version of Bottomley et al seems to the version known as GOSTAplus which was a CD Rom.
Perhaps you can get it from here: http://badc.nerc.ac.uk/view/badc.nerc.ac.uk__ATOM__dataent_GOSTA
The link below may be helpful as well.
http://badc.nerc.ac.uk/data/gosta/paper3.html
jeez says: “Maybe you can request one from the Met office under FOIA.”
Thanks, that made me laugh.
Ah, this might give you the information you are seeking.
http://badc.nerc.ac.uk/data/gosta/atlas7help.html
Looks like it was drawn from the paper.
Greg Goodman: I gained a new appreciation of John Kennedy on that thread at Judith’s blog. I’m very interested to see what they’ve come up with for HADISST2, which is overdue.
Ed Barbar says: May 25, 2013 at 2:12 pm
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The adjustments indicate sea temperatures were warmer in the past?
No, the unadjusted data indicates that there was a significant increase in Sea Surface Temperature between 1910 and 1945, when anthropogenic Fossil-Fuel CO2 emissions;
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and Cumulative Global Fossil Fuel CO2 Emissions;
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were insufficient to have had a significant influence on Sea Surface Temperatures.
That means the current temperatures aren’t as anomalous as thought?
This means that that based upon the unadjusted ICOADS data, Sea Surface Temperatures increased more and faster during the first half of the last century, before anthropogenic CO2 emissions could have a had a significant influence, than Sea Surface Temperatures increased during the second half of the century when anthropogenic CO2 emissions where supposedly driving unprecedented, accelerating, runaway, global warming…
doing correction is ok…as long it is proved to be corrections.
well..matter of faith…if you have only one proxy…
Bob, I located the CD-Rom version after posting that comment about the Met office and FOIA.
However, access can be had via jumping through the hoops at: http://badc.nerc.ac.uk/view/badc.nerc.ac.uk__ATOM__dataent_GOSTA.
I have a feeling that under FOIA and Environmental laws, enacted since, all those hoops now go away. It would be difficult for the Met to come up with excuses except to say they lost it or the data is corrupted. They may require a small fee to duplicate and ship.
But the link above with the help files may already have all the information which would be on the CD.
Converting a point-source temperature measurement with an instrumental error of 1C (or more) into a point-source temperature measurement with an instrumental error of 0.00001C does not really alter the error associated with using that as a proxy for the gridcell’s temperature.
As far as fixing adjustments are concerned, has anyone considered the shifts in nationalities over this time? I’m not claiming one group measured “better” than any other, but the key to any sort of analog measuring is doing it the same darn way. When running actual, physical experiments, I have a field “Observer”, andor “Operator” for the readings. Specifically so you -can- back up and say “It didn’t matter if I had undergrad #1 or undergrad #2 take the reading, here’s the analysis.”
But here’s a method with a lengthy list of -known- issues. Length of rope, length of wait, depth of bucket, sun/shade/conditions on deck, time spent with thermometer in bucket, salinity, humidity, windspeed, vehicle speed, etc.
I’d expect to find a change in the mix across WWI -and- WWII.
From 1910 to 1940, the sst rose .6 degrees, but from 1940 to now, only .3 of a degree…please explain….
It appears to be incorporated into the December 1991 issue of the International Journal of Climatology, available from Wiley for an unknown price:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/joc.3370110810/abstract
Global Ocean Surface Temperature Atlas (Gosta) M. Bottomley, C. K. Folland, J. Hsiung, R. E. Newell and D. E. Parker, Meteorological Office (Bracknell) and Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 1990. No. of Pages: iv + 20; No. of plates: 313
However two co-authors have an extensive paper out, more like a thin book, discussing such corrections. It’s fully reprinted online:
Technical, many equations and graphs, also pics of the buckets in question plus other historical stuff.
I direct your attention to the last lines, highlighting a Bottomley et al problem:
Enjoy.
You mention some past CA posts on bucket adjustments, but the list of CA posts in incomplete and omits some commentary on earlier bucket adjustments. The combination of the arbitrariness of the early adjustments and the motivatedness of the adjusters were definitely dig-heres. See also http://climateaudit.org/2005/06/19/19th-century-sst-adjustments/; http://climateaudit.org/2005/06/24/sst-adjustment-2/. and http://climateaudit.org/category/sst/.
You may be amused by Hansen’s sharp criticism of CRU bucket adjustments http://climateaudit.org/2007/03/15/hansen-calls-ipcc-adjustments-ad-hoc-and-of-dubious-validity/.
SST adjustments is also something that solar bugs also should be interested in. In the early 1990s, George Reid had linked solar changes to the then SST record: see extracts from IPCC here http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/16/ipcc-and-solar-correlations. These correlations were hugely diminished by Folland’s bucket adjustments.
By the way, I once requested an out-of-print publication on SST from CRU. The request was in Climategate 1. The request to the CRU library was sent to Jones and forwarded to Mann, but i did end up with a pdf of Farmer et al 1989, one of the more technical works on bucket adjustments.
As I pointed out in my post at 2.33 and as Alan s Blue pointed out at 3.31pm the methodology is so flawed and the margin of error so great that worrying about the use of an insulated or non insulated bucket is akin to angels dancing on the heads of pins
. the take home message is that other than a very few well travelled sea routes which might provide a small amount of useful information, the SST data prior to 1950 is not worth wasting time on if you are looking for data sufficiently robust to use in policy making decisions
Tonyb
what we have here is messy data. One cannot make a silk purse of a sow’s ear no matter how much one might want to. Small wonder these boneheads would rather erase the raw data than give it to anybody who intends to try to find something wrong with the adjustment methods.
Tonyb says: May 25, 2013 at 2:33 pm
I also wrote on sst’s last year at some length
http://judithcurry.com/2011/06/27/unknown-and-uncertain-sea-surface-temperatures/
I think this insulated bucket business is a bit of a red herring in as much the whole method of taking these measurements was flawed and the minuscule and highly technical difference between water samples from insulated or uninsulated buckets pales into insignificance when the methodology is considered
Interesting, in your article, you describe a conversation with someone who had served in the British Navy in the 1940’s and 50’s when the bucket readings were still common, i.e.
This is a fundamentally arbitrary process, with an array of potential positive and negative biases that we have limited empirical evidence to effectively evaluate. Applying another fundamentally arbitrary process, by making unsupported estimates/assumptions for each of these potential biases, and then adjusting/correcting the data, serves no valid scientific purpose.
You also raise another good point that;
And your conclusions are well founded: