To John Cook – it isn’t ‘hate’, it’s pity, – pity for having such a weak argument you are forced to fabricate conclusions of epic proportions
Proving that crap can flow uphill, yesterday, John Cook got what one could consider the ultimate endorsement. A tweet from the Twitter account of the Twitterer in Chief, Barack Obama, about Cook’s 97% consensus lie.
I had to laugh about the breathless headlines over that tweet, such as this one from the Washington Post’s Valerie Strauss at The Answer Sheet:
Umm, no, as of this writing. WaPo reporter FAIL.
Source: http://twitter.com/skepticscience
But hey, they’re saving the planet with lies, that shouldn’t matter, right? 6535 is the new 31541507 in the world Cook lives in.
Yesterday, in an interview about the Tweet in the Sydney Morning Herald, Cook said:
“Generally the level of hate you get is in proportion to the impact you have,” he said.
No, it isn’t hate, it’s about facts John. This whole story is predicated on lies, and they just seem to get bigger and bigger, there doesn’t seem to be any limit to the gullibility of those involved and those pushing it.
Here’s the genesis of the lie. When you take a result of 32.6% of all papers that accept AGW, ignoring the 66% that don’t, and twist that into 97%, excluding any mention of that original value in your media reports, there’s nothing else to call it – a lie of presidential proportions.
From the original press release about the paper:
Exhibit 1:
From the 11 994 papers, 32.6 per cent endorsed AGW, 66.4 per cent stated no position on AGW, 0.7 per cent rejected AGW and in 0.3 per cent of papers, the authors said the cause of global warming was uncertain.
Exhibit 2:
“Our findings prove that there is a strong scientific agreement about the cause of climate change, despite public perceptions to the contrary.”
I pity people whose argument is so weak they have to lie like this to get attention, I pity even more the lazy journalists that latch onto lies like this without even bothering to ask a single critical question.
Of course try to find a single mention of that 32.6 percent figure in any of the news reports, or on Cook’s announcement on his own website.
Though, some people are asking questions, while at the same time laughing about this farce, such as Dan Kahan at Yale:
Now, Cook has upped the ante, allowing the average person to help participate in the lie and make it their own, as Brandon Schollenberger observes, Cook has launched a new “Consensus project” to make even more certain the public gets his message:
The guidelines for rating [the] abstracts show only the highest rating value blames the majority of global warming on humans. No other rating says how much humans contribute to global warming. The only time an abstract is rated as saying how much humans contribute to global warming is if it mentions:
that human activity is a dominant influence or has caused most of recent climate change (>50%).
If we use the system’s search feature for abstracts that meet this requirement, we get 65 results. That is 65, out of the 12,000+ examined abstracts. Not only is that value incredibly small, it is smaller than another value listed in the paper:
Reject AGW 0.7% (78)
Remembering AGW stands for anthropogenic global warming, or global warming caused by humans, take a minute to let that sink in. This study done by John Cook and others, praised by the President of the United States, found more scientific publications whose abstracts reject global warming than say humans are primarily to blame for it.
(Update: some folks aren’t getting the significance of Schollenberger’s findings, using Cook’s own data and code, which have been shown to be replicable at Lucia’s comment thread, Schollenberger finds 65 that say AGW/human caused, but there’s 78 that reject AGW. Cook never reported that finding in the paper, thus becoming a lie of omission, because it blows the conclusion. Combine that with the lack of reporting of the 32.6%/66.1% ratio in Cook’s own blog post and media reports, and we have further lies of omission.)
It’s gobsmacking. But, I see this as a good thing, because like the lies of presidential politics, eventually this will all come tumbling down.
Read Scholleberger’s essay at Lucia’s.
UPDATE: Marcel Crok has an interesting analysis as well here: http://www.staatvanhetklimaat.nl/2013/05/17/cooks-survey-not-only-meaningless-but-also-misleading/
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I pity those gullible enough to fall for this nonsense hook, line and sinker.
Actually, if you consider recent statements from President Obama, that tweet has nothing to do with him.
From the 11 994 papers, 32.6 per cent endorsed AGW, 66.4 per cent stated no position on AGW, 0.7 per cent rejected AGW
So, of the papers that take a position 97.9% endorse AGW…
“Consensus” is the new “fraud”.
The Hope and Change guy has time to pay attention to John Cook? We have entered a state of ridiculous, silly, and pathetic. The former has had to admit he doesn’t know what is going on in major branches of HIS administration as those underlings attack the very foundations of the Nation. It is hard to believe someone in the big white house still hasn’t recognized that Cook is a kook.
“6535 is the new 31541507”?
That’s like saying 70 cm is the new 20 feet:
http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2013/05/scientists-warn-of-up-to-70-cm-of-sea-level-rise-by-2100,-but-is-this-better-or-worse-than-we-thought
At 8:03 AM on 17 May, Bob Tisdale had posted:
Pity is entirely the wrong sentiment. Bear always in mind that the people credulous enough to get suckered by this preposterous buncombe are taking political action to violate their neighbors’ unalienable individual rights – to life, to liberty, and to property – by way of government thuggery.
The proper way to regard both the gullible and the fraudsters is hatred.
If these bleating sheep aren’t as worthy of your revulsion and despite as are the schemers who’ve been perpetrating these criminal climatological connivances, then there’s no code of morality to be applied to human affairs in any way at all.
lsvalgaard says:
May 17, 2013 at 8:12 am
“From the 11 994 papers, 32.6 per cent endorsed AGW, 66.4 per cent stated no position on AGW, 0.7 per cent rejected AGW
So, of the papers that take a position 97.9% endorse AGW”
Lief, the 66% that took no position count here. They didn’t accept CAGW. It isn’t because they don’t know about it.
Perhaps Dr. Lewd ought to do a study on pathological lying in activist “scientists” .
Well whadyaknow? At the same time that John Cook and President Obama are or are not tweeting about 97% of scientists, the very same zombie lie stalks in the UK Guardian, thanks to Dana. Must the full moon!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/may/16/climate-change-scienceofclimatechange?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487 .
Hooray for COOK ! ! !
The Milly Vanilly, lip-syncing, poser-in-charge is now reading a ‘dog-ate my-homework’ teleprompter message on the Benghazi massacre….the IRS intimidation of the Tea Parties and the AP spy operation….what’s a BHO Twitter worth ? ? ?
Half of BHO Twitter followers are phantom….
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/08/obama-has-millions-of-fake-twitter-followers/1#.UZZK8VF0W_E
Just like the phantom SCIENTISTS that “support” this AGW fraud.
Gary Pearse says:
May 17, 2013 at 8:28 am
Lief, the 66% that took no position count here. They didn’t accept CAGW. It isn’t because they don’t know about it.
They didn’t reject AGW. That is what counts. What is missing in the statistics is if those papers even mentioned or discussed AGW and explicitly said ‘we have no position’. I can point you to thousands of papers from the Journal Cell, New England Journal of Medicine, and the like that have no position on AGW [you claim that they count too?]
Jack says:
May 17, 2013 at 8:04 am
Exactly!
I want to know who has hijacked Obama’s Twitter account so he can use pausible deniability later when it’s shown the 97% were completely ignorant about the political consequences of their fuzzy assertions.
Do you think Jay Carney or Valerie Jarrett would tell us?
” 0.7 per cent rejected AGW”
That was NOT the question asked in the survey. Ask one thing, report another.
The survey asked whether the abstracts “minimised” AGW. Minimise means to play down. It implies bias.
Clearly no abstract will suggest it is “minimising” anything.
An author asked whether his paper minimises is almost obliged to say no.
A reviewer, without seeing the whole paper cannot assess whether this abstract minimised the evidence.
Like all surveys, it’s a case of asking the questions in the right way so as to get the response that the funder requires.
From the 11 994 papers, 32.6 per cent endorsed AGW, 66.4 per cent stated no position on AGW, 0.7 per cent rejected AGW
So, of the papers that take a position 97.9% endorse AGW…
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So, of the less than 4,000 papers that take a position 97.9% endorse AGW wheras over 8,000 papers show 100% of no concern.
As someone once said: “Lies, damned lies and statistics”
I don’t think my post at the Guardian will last long.
“Actually of the 11,944 papers reviewed.
66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW
32.6% endorsed AGW
0.7% rejected AGW
0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming.
I think the consensus is no position to write anything about AGW at all.
or 67.1% do not agree with AGW.
I can John “Cook” the numbers too.”
lsvalgaard says:
May 17, 2013 at 8:36 am
Gary Pearse says:
May 17, 2013 at 8:28 am
Lief, the 66% that took no position count here. They didn’t accept CAGW. It isn’t because they don’t know about it.
“They didn’t reject AGW. That is what counts. What is missing in the statistics is if those papers even mentioned or discussed AGW and explicitly said ‘we have no position’. I can point you to thousands of papers from the Journal Cell, New England Journal of Medicine, and the like that have no position on AGW [you claim that they count too?]”
What is surprising is that 66% of a “scientific” community which is now, and has historically always been, prone to adopt the the most popular, politically correct theory of the times has opted for “no position” on AGW, in spite of all of the grant money out there and peer pressure to accept it. But at least they will not be subjected to physical burning at the stake, only professional punishments. “Settled science” is religous fervor, not real science.
John F. Hultquist says:
May 17, 2013 at 8:21 am
… It is hard to believe someone in the big white house still hasn’t recognized that Cook is a kook.
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Heck, they *still* haven’t figured that out about Biden, yet!
Also “Lies, damned lies and statistics” is attributed to PM Ben Disraeli
The ‘Barack Obama’ twitter account isn’t used by Barack Obama – it’s used by his 501(c)(4) ‘Organizing for Action’ tax-exempt lobbying organization.
The problem is we don’t know if the 66% didn’t address it, accepted it unquestioningly, or what? The possible composition of that 66% is a major question to be asked of this result.
Gobsmaking! Really!!
“This study done by John Cook and others, praised by the President of the United States, found more scientific publications whose abstracts reject global warming than say humans are primarily to blame for it.”
How exactly does the study find that there are more publications that reject AGW then accept it? It clearly states their findings as 32.6% accepting AGW and 0.7% that reject AGW. It is “Fuzzy Math” to think that 0.7 is greater then 32.6. The 66.4% that hold no position do exactly that, THEY HOLD NO POSITION. They are removed from the equation because they do not hold a position.
Also,
“Of course try to find a single mention of that 32.6 percent figure in any of the news reports, or on Cook’s announcement on his own website.”
Your own example shows that the 32.6% is in news reports.
Leif, all the papers that they examined were choosen on the words “global warming” or “global climate change”. That makes that all papers were GW related. But even so 66% didn’t explicitely endorse AGW, which is quite remarkable. The non-endorsing may be because the writers of the paper take that as a given, or don’t have and opinion or do think that it isn’t true, but don’t like to express that opinion in their paper (that could prevent publication). We don’t know, but assuming that there is a 97% consensus, based on not counting papers with an absence of opinion is not really honest…
Further, the whole work was done by reading the abstracts (as was which Oreskes did in a similar test). I have read several works where the researchers show that natural influences were far more important than the models take into account (thus in fact saying that CO2 has far less importance), but in the abstract, the AGW “consensus” was explicitely endorsed (probably because of fear that the paper wouldn’t be published otherwise). Thus in the Oreskes count as good as in this excersize, these are all part of the “consensus”…
I’ve always believed that arguing about whether or not there’s a consensus is basically pointless. I mean, so what? So what if there is, so what if there isn’t? It’s completely independent of the truth of the matter anyway. It’s a beauty contest, basically.
lsvalgaard says:
May 17, 2013 at 8:36 am
“They didn’t reject AGW. That is what counts. What is missing in the statistics is if those papers even mentioned or discussed AGW and explicitly said ‘we have no position’. I can point you to thousands of papers from the Journal Cell, New England Journal of Medicine, and the like that have no position on AGW [you claim that they count too?]”
The 12,000 papers were specifically selected for their mention of AGW by Cook. And why should we exclude the New England J of M? Psychologists, sociologists, economists, political scientists, ichthyologists, astronomers, railway engineers and cartoonists like Cook are all writing papers on AGW. The 66% has just as much right in there as the others. Indeed, if a survey is responded to on AGW, they do count. My surprise is that any scientists would trust a cartoonist to select the papers and to design a survey – I don’t imagine this happens in solar science.