The answer may surprise you
Note: This essay is a result of an email discussion this morning, I asked Dr. Happer to condense and complete that discussion for the benefit of WUWT readers. This is one of the most enlightening calculations I’ve seen in awhile, and it is worth your time to understand it because it speaks clearly to debunk many of the claims of temperature rise in the next 100 years made by activists, such as the 6c by 2050 Joe Romm claims, when parroting Fatih Birol in Reuters:
“When I look at this data, the trend is perfectly in line with a temperature increase of 6 degrees Celsius (by 2050), which would have devastating consequences for the planet,” Fatih Birol, IEA’s chief economist told Reuters.
Graph source: IEA.org scenarios and projections
– Anthony
Guest post by Dr. William Happer
For any rational discussion of the effects of CO2 on climate, numbers are important. An average temperature increase of 1 C will be a benefit to the planet, as every past warming has been in human history. And the added CO2 will certainly increase agricultural yields substantially and make crops more resistant to drought. But in articles like “Scant Gains Made on CO2 Emissions, Energy Agency Says” by Sarah Kent in the Wall Street Journal on April 18, 2013, we see a graph with a 6 C temperature rise by 2050 – if we don’t reduce “carbon intensity.” Indeed, a 6 C temperature rise may well be cause for concern. But anyone with a little background in mathematics and physics should be able to understand how ridiculous a number like 6 C is.
The temperature change, ∆T , from the mean temperature of the present (the year 2013), if the concentration N of CO2 is not equal to the present value, N = 400 ppm, is given by the simple equation
Here ∆T2 is the temperature rise that would be produced by doubling the CO2 concentration from its present value, and ln x denotes the natural logarithm of the number x.
The proportionality of the temperature increment ∆T to ln N is widely accepted. But few know that this is a bit of a “miracle.” The logarithmic law, Eq. (1) comes from the odd fact that the average absorption cross section of infrared light by CO2 molecules decreasesvery nearly exponentially with the detuning of the infrared frequency from the 667 cm−1 center frequency of the absorption band. More details can be found in a nice recent paper by Wilson and Gea-Banacloche, Am. J. Phys. 80 306 (2012). Eq. (1) exaggerates the warming from more CO2 because it does not account of the overlapping absorption bands of water vapor and ozone, but we will use it for a “worst case” analysis.
Recalling the identity for natural logarithms,
, we write Eq. (1) as
The only solution of the equation ln x = ln y is x = y, so (2) implies that
Recent IPCC reports claim that the most probable value of the temperature rise for doubling is ∆T2 = 3 C. Substituting this value and a warming of ∆T = 6 C into Eq. (3) we find
But the rate of increase of CO2 has been pretty close to 2 ppm/year, which implies that by the year 2050 the CO2 concentration will be larger by about (50−13) years×2 ppm/ year = 74 ppm to give a total concentration of N = 474 ppm, much less than the 1600 ppm needed.
The most obvious explanation for the striking failure of most climate models to account for the pause in warming over the past decade is that the value of ∆T2 is much smaller than the IPCC value. In fact, the basic physics of the CO2 molecule makes it hard to justify a number much larger than ∆T2 = 1 C – with no feedbacks. The number 3 C comes from various positive feedback mechanisms from water vapor and clouds that were invented to make the effects of more CO2 look more frightening. But observations suggest that the feedbacks are small and may even be negative. With a more plausible value, ∆T2 = 1 C , in Eq. (3) we find that the CO2 concentration needed to raise the temperature by ∆T = 6 C is
This amount of CO2 would be more than a warming hazard. It would be a health hazard. The US upper limit for long term exposure for people in submarines or space craft is about 5000 ppm CO2 (at atmospheric pressure). To order of magnitude, it would take a time
t = 25, 600 ppm/(2 ppm/year) = 12,800 years.
(6)
to get 6 C warming, even if we had enough fossil fuel to release this much CO2.
A 6 C warming from CO2 emissions by 2050 is absurd. It is a religious slogan, a sort of “Deus vult” of the crusade to demonize CO2, but it is not science.
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Dr. William Happer is the Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics at Princeton University, and a long-term member of the JASON advisory group,where he pioneered the development of adaptive optics. From 1991-93, Happer served as director of the Department of Energy’s Office of Science.
UPDATE: Dr. Happer has contacted the author of the paper cited, and he has graciously setup a free link to it: http://comp.uark.edu/~jgeabana/gw.html
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Sadly belief is not influenced by numeracy.
“But anyone with a little background in mathematics and physics should be able to understand how ridiculous a number like 6 C is.”
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You’d think, but…
Alas, the cited paper is paywalled.
Doesn’t matter how ridiculous it is, I’m sure it’s coming soon to a billboard near you…
The POTUSA promise was….”to restore science to it’s proper place”. That ‘place’ is to provide credit default science to FORCE Carbon Commodity Markets….therefore Carbon IS TO BE a climate forcing agent. Wasting $100 billion in tax dollars for ‘research’ into Carbon endangerment findings, does not require proper science….or correct math….or a functional conscious.
He’s using natural logarithms but global warming is man-made.
All increases due to CO2 doublings are absurd. The negative feedback of water equals or exceeds the original effect. Total sensitivity is 0 or so close as makes no nevermind.
“Conscious” is not a noun. Which word are you misusing it for, ‘consciousness’ or ‘conscience’?
Doesn’t it get ever more difficult to increase the ppmv of CO2 in the atmosphere? CO2, as I understand it, partitions at a ration of 50:1 between water and air.
If correct, this would mean that to actually double the ppmv of CO2 in the air, a release of 51 times the CO2 in the air would be required.
Incidentally, if anyone out there can explain the alleged mechanism by which CO2 molecules “trap” heat, I’d be all ears. Somebody is having a laugh, for now.
You can also use it to calculate what the current rise should be:
With 3C sensitivity: 3 x log2(400/270) = 1.7C
With 2C sensitivity: 2 x log2(400/270) = 1.1C
With 1.5C sensitivity: 1.5 x log2(400/270) = 0.85C
NOTE: log2(x) = ln(x)/ln(2)
What the foundation claim of AGW boils down to –
“Adding radiative gases to the atmosphere will reduce the atmospheres radiative cooling ability.”
Does anyone believe this?
As Dr. Happer points out, the claim of a 6 C temp increase fails even when the greenhouse effect of CO2 is assumed to increase in linear proportion to concentration in the atmosphere. It fails even more badly when you consider that the incremental greenhouse effect drops off rapidly as the CO2 concentration increases, so that doubling the concentration increases the greenhouse effect by only a few percent, and doubling it again increases the effect by a few percent of that few percent. And as other posters here point out, any such incremental effect that is observed is more than canceled in any event by negative water vapor feedbacks.
It’s apparent that the alarmies will go right on with their lies no matter how much they are confronted with the truth. They will stand there with the evidence against them right in their faces and keep on lying. It’s as though they have a black cat in their arms and insist on saying the cat is white.
Of course this should come as no surprise when the alarmies ascribe the [recent] record cold temperatures, severe winters and growing Antarctic ice cap and sea ice as due to global warming. They’re very good at saying that water freezes into ice when you heat it.
(2.56%) amount of CO2 would be more than a warming hazard. It would be a health hazard.
However in the short term, 4% or 40,000 ppm can revive a person via artificial respiration.
Bravo Dr Happer. I am still blown away by having the chance to talk to you.
Next time though, the dinner is on me!
Andrew says: April 18, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Incidentally, if anyone out there can explain the alleged mechanism by which CO2 molecules “trap” heat, I’d be all ears. Somebody is having a laugh, for now
That’s two of us.
Record low predicted here tonight. At least I’m doing my part to “heat the planet”–I burned leaves for three consecutive days, a few weeks ago.
Come on CO2, do your thing!
So they’re blind. Why?
I think the whole thing is a desperate effort to raise a new tax (carbon tax) and thus get more tax dollars from a tapped-out private sector.. Those promoting the scare are primarily politicians ((e.g. Al Gore, Senator, Vice President, son of a Congressman) and secondarily University professors (whose funding comes mostly from taxes).
It will not work. Tapped out is tapped out. Adding these additional burdens to the private sector has resulted in economic collapse.
Andrew says: April 18, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Incidentally, if anyone out there can explain the alleged mechanism by which CO2 molecules “trap” heat, I’d be all ears. Somebody is having a laugh, for now
“Trap heat” or variations thereof is a phrase often used by AGW proponents. It sounds scary. But I’m not sure what it means. I’d be grateful if someone would define what is meant by “trap heat”. Does it mean “heat that can never escape, or heat that can escape but only under certain conditions”; and if so, “what are the conditions necessary for the “heat to escape”?
you can also reverse this.
to get 6C by 2050 with a CO2 raise by then of 74ppm from 400ppm would require a Climate Sensitivity per doubling of what?
I don’t have the math to figure it myself but I think it would be between 12C and 18C.
Anyone up to figuring this precisely?
I think their scenario analysis is also a bit daffy, but that’s a whole nuther subject.
-CO2 TRAP HEAT
In response to several questions above, here is the quick low-down:
An CO2 molecule in the atmosphere can be heated by infrared light from the Sun. Once the molecule is heated, it can lose heat by molecular collisons, or by re-emitting infrared.
The heat gain is not long term, as the “hotter” the molecule becomes, the faster it loses the heat energy.
“He’s using natural logarithms but global warming is man-made.”
Well spotted. Outstanding!
Luckily, I had just finished my coffee.
TerryS says:
April 18, 2013 at 4:52 pm
You can also use it to calculate what the current rise should be:
With 3C sensitivity: 3 x log2(400/270) = 1.7C
With 2C sensitivity: 2 x log2(400/270) = 1.1C
With 1.5C sensitivity: 1.5 x log2(400/270) = 0.85C
FYI of those that didn’t get what Terry was alluding to , 270 ppm is the pre-industrial CO2 level & 400 is the current CO2 level. Reference :
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/26/co2-ice-cores-vs-plant-stomata/
And over that time, the rise in temps is about 0.85 C :
http://ete.cet.edu/gcc/?/resourcecenter/slideshow/3/1
So, using our most fundamental & best documented data (temp vs time & CO2 vs time), we come up with roughly +/- 1.5 C per doubling. This is why I consider myself a luke warmer – this calculation is fundamental , simple & has no reliance on any computer model – it is solely based on data. Could it be more simple?
We can take this one step further in this post & the 6 deg C question.
If we use 1.5 for deltaT2, we can substitute that into equation (4) & get :
N= 400 x 2^(6/1.5) = 6400 PPM
or we would have to increase CO2 concentration to 6400 PPM to get the 6 deg C “warming of worry” using the warming & CO2 data we have seen over the last 100 + years
And we can continue with this calculation using the 2 PPM / yr rate of increase to see how long (L) it would take to get 6 deg C of warming :
L = (6400-400) PPM / (2 ppm/yr) = 3000 YEARS !!! …. or in the year 5013 !!!!!
…. just a little different than 2050.
So next time you encounter a CAGW alarmist – ask them to tell you what they think the sensitivity is & how they can defend it. If they throw a high number at you, ask them to justify it with the observed data (270 PPM to 400 PPM & ~ 0.8 to 0.95 C increase in temps, depending on dataset). I don’t care what feedbacks are put into models – this is the data & if the feedbacks don’t fit this data, the model is wrong. Period.
If they don’t know, do the math for them & ask them what they think CO2 concentrations will be in the future – pick a date. Use the 2 PPM / yr & do the math. We don’t need any stinkin’ computer models to tell us the answer. We have ~ 130 years of data & the fundamental equations to calculate sensitivity from that data – and we are all doing it here using hand held calculators.
The fact that we even have to go further to de bunk the CAGW hypothesis is absurd.
…. wow, that turned into a bit of a rant ;))
geran;
An CO2 molecule in the atmosphere can be heated by infrared light from the Sun. Once the molecule is heated, it can lose heat by molecular collisons, or by re-emitting infrared.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Not quite. The vast bulk of light from the sun is short wave which goes right through CO2. It gets absorbed by the earth which then radiates toward space in the infrared range. That’s when it gets “trapped” by CO2:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Atmospheric_Transmission.png
Of course “trapped” is the wrong word for it and what the sequence of events is after that is rather complex.
I suggest searching this site for articles by Ira Glickstein who did a very detailed series on the issue.
Those of you questioning the role of CO2 & heat might note that is not the subject of this posting. Why not start here:
http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/21/radiative-forcing-1/
The comment (#comment-133173) by Harold Pierce Jr @ur momisugly 5:52 is of interest as are many others. The post at CA is from 2008. The problem is that it is not possible to move forward in these postings. However, with the CA post and the comments there are lots of things to read and search on that can bring you forward.
About that time, I went to the head of the Physics Department at our local University and asked for a beginning textbook. It was willingly given. Therein was much information and I learned all the appropriate search terms. Lots of reading later, I was well aware of the CAGW scam.
Dr. Happer’s essay is excellent and concise. The information is not new while the presentation is.
The linked paper has a cost to rent of $3.99. Is there something available free?