Marc Morano -vs- Bill Nye on CNN tonight

Marc Morano and the BBC
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2008603859001

Whoops, Should have said Marc, not Mark.

Oh, I’d like to see that. If someone sticks it on youtube be sure to post a link

Here is some basic flawed science
SkepticalScience says : “when the sun ‘goes down’ on the moon, the temperature drops almost immediately, and plunges in several hours down to minus 110 degrees C (-166F).”
This is of course utter rubbish !
The moron that wrote this obviously does not understand that the data is presented in the form of a lunar day divided into 24 hours.
Factor in that a “lunar” hour as shown in the data is ~29.5 Earth hours and you see a completely different picture of a heated surface radiating into a vacuum and at an extraordinarily slow rate may I say !
For example, from the lunar noon to sunrise is ~ 531 Earth hours and the temperature falls from ~390 K to ~100 K – hardly “plunges in several hours down to minus 110 degrees C”.
It is actually a very slow rate of cooling – about 0.5 K per hour averaged as climate scientists love to do – especially when compared to convective cooling here on Earth.
From lunar sunset to lunar sunrise is ~ 354 Earth hours and the temperature falls from ~ 220 K to ~ 100 K – again an incredibly slow rate of cooling at about 0.34 K per hour.
Even from lunar noon to lunar sunset the temperature drops from ~ 390 K to ~ 220 K in ~170 hours – the fastest observed yet a mere 1 K per hour.
From lunar sunrise to lunar noon the temperature climbs from ~100 K to ~ 390 K in ~170 hours – almost twice the fastest cooling rate observed.
No matter how you read the data the Moon radiating its heat to the vacuum of space cools very slowly – in a 12 hour night the Earth is never going to lose much energy at the rates observed on the Moon.
It is absurd beyond belief to ignore the rate of rotation about the axis of the Earth as the most significant factor in explaining why the surface is warmer than the blackbody figure – the data from the Moon proves this conclusively !
I can put near boiling water in my freezer and have ice in ~ 8 – 10 hours at only minus 15 C and water has a higher thermal capacity than Moon regolith not to mention latent heat of freezing – proof that conduction/convection cool surfaces much faster than radiation alone – its also why they put the fan in the oven, use fans to cool engine radiators etc etc.
Why would the Earth lose “heat” to space faster than the Moon ?
In 12 hours a 1 K per hour rate of cooling doesn’t seem to be any problem at all – bring it on.
Which brings me to that other fraudulent claim seen everywhere.
Space is cold. This is claimed to support the atmosphere acts like a blanket keeping us warm analogy.
Firstly it is absurd to associate physical properties like temperature of hot or cold to something that has no substance at all – a vacuum !
I am amazed people with PhDs can make such ludicrous claims.
Space is only as “cold” as the radiation traversing a particular area – true the minimum observed is a few W/sq m but this is not any sort of constant.
It is absurd beyond belief to claim that near Earth orbit space is “cold” when it is literally “bathed” is solar radiation powerful enough to heat planetary surfaces to ~ 390 K. The only place to avoid it is in the shadow of the Earth or the Moon.
Lastly there is the observed fact that every planet in our Solar System that has a substantial atmosphere has a temperature at 1 bar that is higher than the temperature calculated by the Stefan-Boltzmann law of blackbody radiation – even an atmosphere of almost completely hydrogen and helium.
I consider this proof that to not consider the pressuer – temperature relationship of gases as significant is another area where climate science is wrong.
After all – if their theory is right Jupiter for example should not be “hotter” than 110 K yet at even 0.1 bar atmospheric pressure it is 112 K and 165 K at 1 bar – http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/jupiterfact.html
Pretending the Sun shines 24 hours a day at one quarter power, that space is “cold”, the Earth responds like a blackbody and other misuse of science is why I don’t believe in the Greenhouse effect.

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Nicole says:
“Marc has NO SCIENCE expertise…”
And how would you know that?
Post your CV and peer reviewed pubs here, Nicole, so we can see if you are fit to judge.

Well, I just watched Morano eviscerate Bill Nye on CNN. Piers jumped in at the end with an ‘insightful parry’ by accusing Marc of stating opinions instead of facts. That is, of lying. This helps explain why CNN’s ratings are circling in the bowl.
Bill Nye has become such an embarrassment that I feel only pity for him. He may be a good choice to replace Rajendra Pachauri as head of the IPCC, although he is way overqualified with his undergrad degree in Mech Eng from Cornell.

Nicole,
if what Bill Nye has is Science Experience it easily explains all the Junk Science infesting the periodicals and universities today.

Nye is just going to knock all the chess pieces over and crap on the board.

The “Science Guy” tells us that it’s the rate of CO2 increase not the absolute concentration that causes concern about global warming. Huh?

Thanks to Piers for allowing equal time between Bill Nye and Marc Marano.
That said, it was two against one with Piers advocating the alarmist view. Was he among the 28 or did he just read the transcript?