Over on the thread The folly of blaming the Eastern U.S. heat wave on global warming there is a lively discussion going on between people that think the Eastern US heatwave hype by media and a few activist scientists is just bunk -vs- the defenders of the faith that insist it is a signature of global warming climate change climate disruption. Generally, these defenders are people that only look forward using model projections and pronouncements made by the IPCC, rather than look back at historical data and the propensity for nature to create such extremes, such as the nearly identical weather pattern that led to the 2010 Russian heatwave in which “climate change” was found blameless in a peer reviewed paper by NOAA.
In that thread there’s a comment by Gail Combs in response to the defenders of the faith (typically hit and run anonymous cowards) that I though worthy of elevating to a full post.
Gail Combs says:
Mr. B. says: July 7, 2012 at 6:48 pm
The IPCC and the National Academy of Science believe global warming is real and directly related to human activity. Over 95% of Scientist worldwide believe global warming is real and directly related to human activity. If you don’t want to believe it you don’t have to. But I for one am more willing to listen to the conclusions of people who have devoted their education, time, study and energy to this issue than to some guy with a blog……
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As a scientist, I KNOW other scientists will lie through their teeth when it comes to money or their career. I have had plenty of direct experience of outright lying and falsification of data. I have also been fired more than once for refusing to falsify data upon direct order from my superior.
My personal experience with the “Honesty” and “Integrity” of scientists is that it is rare, most will go along with the herd or with higher authority rather than stick their neck out.
In my entire career I found only one other person willing to stand up for what was right instead of going along with what was easiest. She was also fired for her honesty. Most people are followers not leaders. I have read somewhere only one in two hundred is actually a leader and to control a group all that is needed is to identify and break that leader. That is what saying there is a “Consensus” and the labeling and denigrating of those who don’t go with the flow is all about. That practice alone should make people wonder about “The Science” Real science is about the quest for truth and facts not following “Authority” not being a member of the “A” list.
Here is the current state of “Honesty” in Science:
…..Survey questions on plagiarism and other forms of professional misconduct were excluded. The final sample consisted of 21 surveys that were included in the systematic review, and 18 in the meta-analysis.
A pooled weighted average of 1.97% (N = 7, 95%CI: 0.86–4.45) of scientists admitted to have fabricated, falsified or modified data or results at least once –a serious form of misconduct by any standard– and up to 33.7% admitted other questionable research practices. In surveys asking about the behaviour of colleagues, admission rates were 14.12% (N = 12, 95% CI: 9.91–19.72) for falsification, and up to 72% for other questionable research practices. Meta-regression showed that self reports surveys, surveys using the words “falsification” or “fabrication”, and mailed surveys yielded lower percentages of misconduct. When these factors were controlled for, misconduct was reported more frequently by medical/pharmacological researchers than others.
Considering that these surveys ask sensitive questions and have other limitations, it appears likely that this is a conservative estimate of the true prevalence of scientific misconduct.
More articles about the lack of honesty in science.
A Sharp Rise in Retractions Prompts Calls for Reform
ScienceDaily: US Scientists Significantly More Likely to Publish Fake Research, Study Finds
A few individual cases:
LISTINGS:
.naturalnews.com:Scientific fraud news, articles and information
Many here at WUWT have a degree in science, engineering or the maths. That is why we smell something very fishy with the IPCC and “The Science”
This is what Forty citizen auditors found when they looked at “the United Nations’ Nobel-winning climate bible.. the gold standard.”
…Contrary to statements by the chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the celebrated 2007 report does not rely solely on research published in reputable scientific journals. It also cites press releases, newspaper and magazine clippings, working papers, student theses, discussion papers, and literature published by green advocacy groups. Such material is often called “grey literature.”
We’ve been told this report is the gold standard. We’ve been told it’s 100 percent peer-reviewed science. But thousands of sources cited by this report have not come within a mile of a scientific journal.
Based on the grading system used in US schools, 21 chapters in the IPCC report receive an F (they cite peer-reviewed sources less than 60% of the time), 4 chapters get a D, and 6 get a C. There are also 5 Bs and 8 As…. http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2010/04/14/climate-bible-gets-21-fs-on-report-card/
Sorry, the more we dig, and look at the data we can get our hands on (as any true scientist is required to do) the more it stinks. “The Team” knows this and that is why the data was not released upon simple requests, Freedom of Information Acts and when push finally came to shove the data was “Lost”
Phil Jones: The Dog Ate My Homework
From the “A goat ate my homework” excuse book: NIWA reveals NZ original climate data missing
Lonnie and Ellen, A Serial Non-Archiving Couple
If you want more on the supposed “Integrity” of those you seem to believe in see: WUWT Climategate links
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Here’s the problem right away, straight from the horse’s mouth:
“The IPCC and the National Academy of Science believe global warming is real and directly related to human activity. Over 95% of Scientist worldwide believe global warming is real and directly related to human activity.”
Belief is nice, but science works with facts. Just because the IPCC and their boss, the railroad engineer, believe, means nothing. Some people believe in god. Some people believe in the space butterfly. The IPCC can believe in aliens, but that doesn’t make aliens real. Belief has no room in science, only facts and hard evidence. Belief only has room in religion.
And well, I still wonder where those 95% of scientists comes from. 95% of all scientists, that’s a lot of people. Have they all been interviewed? Unlikely. It’s more like this being another upgraded percentage based on statistics trickery. Too bad that a statistic isn’t really science either.
Well DONE!
A keeper!
Thank you
Heh — “Ryan’s Geography Trick.” He shrank Oz, too.
I would say to Gail, “May the Force be with you.” But, apparently it already is and then some.
Bill Tuttle says:
July 8, 2012 at 9:05 am
> Heh — “Ryan’s Geography Trick.” He shrank Oz, too.
Yes, but note there’s an ongoing calamity (or something) going on in southern Greenland! 🙂
There is a great deal of literature out there that pushes the idea that the developed world needs to shift to a government managed green economy with a direct Industrial Policy orientation. The government partners would be Big Business and research universities who of course love the idea of such a lucrative, for them, rent seeking economy. For those of us providing the funding who are not part of the politically connected class, it really will be 21st century serfdom with assigned places and lifestyles.
The National Academy of Sciences published a report last week on the critical role computer science will have in this new sustainability economy that of course has the tech companies salivating. It acts as if bigger computers and better software were the only impediments in the past to command and control economies having better results. Here’s the misguided quote:
“advances in computing are critical enablers of change for addressing the growing sustainability challenges facing the United States and the world. . . research and innovation in computing, information, and communications technologies are consequently critical to addressing the broad range of sustainability challenges.”
Then the cite is to the UN’s 1987 Bruntland Report Our Common Future.
That industrial vision is designed to corrupt any entity who may have access to that stream of taxpayer cash. Which is what has happened.
95% of those contributing to the IPCC reports believe in global warming is real and directly related to human activity. And we will identify and eliminate from the IPCC the remaining 5%
Progressivism Socialism, Statism, etc. Call it what you want, but the current U.S., U.N., E.U. leadership is fairly open about redistributing wealth on both national and global scales usineg Climate as a central piece of its tax revenue generating mechanism.
The United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs has published “IN SEARCH OF NEW DEVELOPMENT FINANCE 2012”. Take a look at what your government has planned for you.
http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/policy/wess/wess_current/2012wess_overview_en.pdf
Note how the types of global taxes are similar to those proposed by the Obama Adminstration. This is Globalism folks. Climate Policy is a central piece of the plan.
See Page 3, Figure 0.1 and page 4, Table 0.1.
Here is a sample:
Carbon taxes
EU Emission Trading Scheme
Air passenger levy
Certified emission reduction tax
Billionaire’s tax-a 1% tax on WEALTH not income.
Currency transaction tax-per unit tax
Financial transaction tax-per unit tax
I fear that if it were not for the likes of WUWT, we would have been assimilated by now.
When I see a commenter belch that “Over 95% of Scientist worldwide believe global warming is real and directly related to human activity.” I have to wonder why an individual would in good conscious who professes to be a science guru use an unscientific statistic. If asked how many scientists there are on the planet what would;be their answer? I see a lot of numbers with out the process that produced the stats. An answer on an exam without any work backing and supporting the conclusion.
As a scientist, I liked that there was some warming because it is better than the alternative. I liked that CO2 is rising because my garden produced more food. However; it took very little effort on my part to smell a dead fish in the AGW crowd. It is so simple to vet out the followers of AGW who are the “sheep” following the wolf in sheep’s clothing. It is so clear there is a money train burgeoning with dollars fueling CAGW. It is so grossly obvious. In religious zealotry, they can look you in the face and spew junk, vomit on themselves, and actually believe “the world is flat” brain wash.
As for leadership, yes the sheep are many, the sheep dog is few, and the wolves are circling. So , the folks like Anthony are the sheep dogs; as the folks who read and participate in the conquest of truth we see at this blog, what are you? The wolf, sheep dog, or sheep?
I read the headline as “A wave of heated bpeer pressure results in shrinking integrity”
I’ll read the whole thing again after a bit, but I don’t think correcting the error changed anything.
That settle it. I want Gail on my side in a bar fight
Gail,
Thank you for your post, your passion for honesty is an inspiration. I am not a scientist but a life-long (+30 years) engineer and have seen my share of dishonesty, carelessness, laziness and in general, a pervasive lack of integrity from a wide range of technical professionals. From programmers, to scientists, to engineers – there are good, strong professionals, but in my experience, they have always been in the minority and yes, commonly their careers are threatened – they quit and in some cases are harassed and even summarily fired simply for telling the unvarnished truth.
How do the rats get away with it? Many ways, but all their strategies seem to fall under the general rubric of politicizing and humanizing (ala ad-hom attacks) problems rather than sticking to the facts at hand and taking rational steps to solve said problem. Politicizing and finger-pointing works well within a managed organizational structure because all the rats need to do is snow those vested with authority, that and a bit of boot-kissing and the deal is sealed.
Twelve years ago I had had enough and started my own company. I’m still at it.
November 2009 I became aware of Climategate through the WSJ. Initially, it just tickled my funny bone to see people whom I considered stuffed-shirt over-educated welfare cases getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar (so to speak) but I slowly over time realized the corruption in climate science is far more advanced and serious than your typical run-of-the-mill corporate or research facility sewer rat environment. I clued to the absolute lack of MSM coverage (it would have been a great story); investigations that were nothing but transparently gratuitous whitewashes; and there’s the money. Lots of money. Big buildings, facilities, supercomputers, careers, academic grants, boondoggles to Copenhagen, Rio, all expenses paid. The media feeds on it. Politicians feed on it – can you imagine – taxing air?
Climate Science has become a gigantic sewer rat magnet.
Gail,
I too have witnessed falsification 1st hand. In my case, it was having to do with Superfund sites and soil remediation. We’re talking billions of dollars here, and the stakes are huge. I wasn’t quiet enough in my questioning some methods, and my complaints to OSHA regarding research method’s safety didn’t help in my longevity with the program. I’ve seen examples of others who didn’t last long either after “not going along with the program.”
What stunned me was the weekly reports to the DOE… always containing the statement that “Progress in all areas is excellent.”
Have some consolation in the knowledge that at least one reader here knows that what you’re saying is true.
I don’t keep records, and I don’t know where to find honest ones, but it seems to me that this current summer if very reminiscent of the first years we lived here (we moved here in the winter of 1989-1990 (the winters were bitterly cold and the summers were scorching–maybe a bit hotter than this year so far).
I wonder what the GHG concentrations against temperature graph looks like for the period 1980-2013 for east-central (Douglas County) looks like.
One doesn’t have to be a scientist to recognize the almost constantly flawed argumentation of the CAGW proponents. Ad hominem, appeals to authority, band wagon appeals, and many other errors crop up in any warmist defense against skeptical criticism.
Ric Werme says:
July 8, 2012 at 9:18 am
Yes, but note there’s an ongoing calamity (or something) going on in southern Greenland! 🙂
“Viking settlements in Greenland during the Middle Ages? Preposterous! Show me where they were on the map — no, no, use *this* map”…
It is hard not to get worked up about this. The progression he mentions is in itself reason to think that they know the data does not bear close examination. 1: Refuse to provide the data. 2: Stonewall 3: Do what Nixon should have done with the White House tapes – hide them or destroy outrigh
(I am anything but a Nixon fan, but I still can’t believe he let them survive so long it got to where he couldn’t destroy them any longer.)
It is as clear as the nose on your face that if the data supported their CAGW contentions then they would have made it all available long ago.
This all has made me so untrusting of ALL science. I’ve gotten to the point of this: If you scientists don’t let me personally see every bit of your work, I don’t believe a word you say. Even if much of it is over my head, I still want to be able to see it all.
Steve Garcia
The heat wave was also being exaggerated, and in places, created by the alarm force, in my case: Theweathernetework.com in Canada. I had the suspicion for several days that the actual temperature and humidity (replaced by “feels-like”) in Ottawa, Ontario has been “cooked” but last Friday, with the reported temperature at 34C (93.2 F) and “feels like” 40C (104 F), I duly put some “45” sunscreen and walked home from work. I stopped at my favourite pub “The New Edinburgh”, which has a patio on the roof. Having made the ~ 1 mile without working up a sweat, I decided to try the patio. Man, it was simply pleasantly warm, with a nice breeze. I asked the waitress what she thought the temp was and she replied “maybe 26…28”.
Now I worked for three years in the middle 60s in a place where it didn’t only feel like 40’s but often wasn’t far from 50C – the Sahel south of Lake Chad in Nigeria (plus other parts of northern Nigeria) – mapping the geology on my own (no assistant) as an employee (not a tech aid guy) of the Geological Survey of Nigeria. On one of the hotter days, I came down off a rocky ridge to seek the shade of a thicket of dry-leafed shrubby trees to rest and eat a small lunch. I entered the thicket and set off a heart-stopping thundering and billowing of thick red dust that was like hot ashes as I roused a huge flock of sleeping warthogs (Hausa muslims don’t eat pork) who took off, thin gray-skinned tails with black paint brushes on the ends sticking up straight as they fled. I came back out choking and had to settle for the shade of a large rock at the foot of the ridge. Now that, folks, is what 40s “feels like”.
As usual, I wrecked my comments with sloppy editing.
One should say:
The other (as if I had found them all):
Ask yourself one question Mr. B. would you trust a man whose livelihood depends on him being right? Would you trust a man whose livelihood depends on continued warming? Have you actually looked at the huge amount of money being funneled into this scam?
As for the IPCC you should take a closer look and weep. 😉 Here are some quotes from IPCC insiders given to the InterAcademy Council committee that investigated the IPCC.
What’s this??
Now do you feel deceived?
You should learn from an arch warmist at the Guardian.
How strong is your faith now?
DJ says:
July 8, 2012 at 9:52 am
Gail,
I too have witnessed falsification 1st hand. In my case, it was having to do with Superfund sites and soil remediation. We’re talking billions of dollars here, and the stakes are huge. I wasn’t quiet enough in my questioning some methods, and my complaints to OSHA regarding research method’s safety didn’t help in my longevity with the program. I’ve seen examples of others who didn’t last long either after “not going along with the program.”
What stunned me was the weekly reports to the DOE… always containing the statement that “Progress in all areas is excellent.”
Superfund remediation was a gigantic self-licking ice-cream cone. Originally, the toxic crud was incinerated, but when that proved horrendously expensive, it was just transported to other landfills, which became Superfund sites in turn, and the crud was transported to *other* landfills, lather, rinse, repeat. Ask anybody who worked at a landfill in the ’70s and ’80s what an “ID 23” classification was.
“…I have read somewhere only one in two hundred is actually a leader and to control a group all that is needed is to identify and break that leader…
Above is my drive-by accentuation and emphasis. I see Anthony’s site as an intelligence test of sorts and I’m one of those guys who can’t chew bubblegum and walk at the same time. And I’m almost all out of bubblegum.
Sorry, gotta go, I’m almost out of bubblegum! Cheers!
Tom in Indy- When I read that Computing Research for Sustainability report all i could think of was how this is how John Holdren is pushing the Future Earth Alliance work that I had written about in June. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/future-earth-alliance-where-education-climate-and-economic-planning-are-all-cores/
It even had IBM overseeing the report. I guess providing those needed mainframes and software and consulting services is consistent with its Smarter Planet and Smarter Cities business model for future revenue.
This is the report that refers to people and their behavior as sociotechnical systems in need of new mindsets and behaviors that reflect sustainability.
It rather gives me the creeps to keep running into tech companies funding and advocating transformational changes in education and the supposed necessity of a Green Economy when the funding federal government is saying:
“Information and data are critical to understanding the challenges, to formulating and deploying solutions, to communicating results, and to facilitating learning and new behaviors based on the results of the work.”
I cannot link these reports as my access is visual only but it goes on to state that “Sustainability is a challenge that will persist for generations.”
We better start understanding all the elements of this statist engrenage soon. The politically connected clearly have aspirations that this command and control management is a long term way lock in an ability to live at our expense.
I don’t know, Anthony. Those charts still look pretty warm. It looks like the global anomaly is up to 0.23C above the 1981-2010 mean. The weird color scheme makes it more difficult to discern with the grayscale extending up to 3.5 degrees above normal, but the blues beginning at 0.5 degrees below normal.
Me?
I’m a 5%er and proud of it!