Wow, it doesn’t get much uglier than this. In my opinion, this is hate speech. Steve Zwick writes in his Forbes column:
We know who the active denialists are – not the people who buy the lies, mind you, but the people who create the lies. Let’s start keeping track of them now, and when the famines come, let’s make them pay. Let’s let their houses burn. Let’s swap their safe land for submerged islands. Let’s force them to bear the cost of rising food prices.
They broke the climate. Why should the rest of us have to pay for it?
People who doubt the magnitude of CO2/AGW driven climate change broke the climate?
I suppose then that Mr. Zwick has never driven a car, never taken an airplane trip, never heated or cooled his home, never bought products produced overseas and shipped here, never grilled at a BBQ, or never used electricity to power his computer to write his litany of hate for Forbes. No, he’s apparently not used any CO2 producing modern convenience at all, which is why he bizarrely believes he has some sort of moral high ground.
His hypocrisy is beyond description. His full essay is here.
For those who wish to complain about his hate speech against fellow Americans, see the Forbes Contact page here.
As for his points about the Yale poll trying to make us all fear the weather as some human caused machination of climate, read this.
UPDATE: Warren Meyer offers a thoughtful rebuttal in Forbes here
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Isn’t he concerned about all the CO2 from those burning houses being released into the air?
looks like Forbes already deleted it..
REPLY: see: http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevezwick/2012/04/19/a-tennessee-firemans-solution-to-climate-change/
[snip -name calling serves no purpose – Anthony]
I’ll go ahead and delete my own comment before they do! And it was a doozy.
Anthony, do you have the article cached?
REPLY: Yes, here: http://www.webcitation.org/6738oKF2s
How does asking to see the evidence equal “They broke the climate”? Does wanting to see the data cause more CO2?
Interesting that Judith Curry points to the new book the Righteous Mind
http://judithcurry.com/2012/04/19/the-righteous-mind/
“Do you ever find yourself reading something by a commentator you disagree with and wanting to punch them in the face? Do you listen to people on the other side of the political debate and find yourself almost hating them?
Once again this exposes the warmists as a religion and not a science and engineering issue.
There is still no empirical evidence supporting the warmist nonsense (excepting the bent data, which has been mostly pointed out here and at junkscience.com). So, just like the current US election, the desperate believers are thrashing about getting ever more strident and ever more far from truth. I’m stocking in extra popcorn and adult beverage. When the final meltdown occurs (pardon the pun) it will be a sight to behold.
Essay still in place
I don’t want these nutburgers silenced, give ’em a microphone and let people see just who they are, and what they want. Get out of their way and let them prove what (snippety snip) they are.
I have a reply up at my Forbes column: http://www.forbes.com/sites/warrenmeyer/2012/04/19/a-vivid-reminder-of-how-the-climate-debate-is-broken/
Stage 2 : Anger.
well someone in his DNA pool broke something….that’s for sure
We know who the active denialists are ……
……… Let’s start keeping track of them now
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that sounds a lot like we know who you are, we know where you live..
a threat or incitement (and very irresponsible) in anyones language..
Ranting rhetoric for him, lets hope the least stable person reading his rubbish, doesn’t take any ‘action’.
“Let’s let their houses burn”? Is he advocating arson? Or will this be a selective by-product of boilng seas, directed at unbelievers by Gaia?
The man is deranged.
It looks like the global warming wars are turning into hate crimes. I was on think progress the other day. The warmists are cheering the tornado damage in red states. One Australian said he was happy when there were disasters in areas that did not believe in global warming/climate change. None of this looks good on humanity.
I feel nothing but pity for poor Zwick. What a sad person he is.
Like I said before, it’s sad that the alarmists are making everyone not want a warmer climate. The alarmists don’t want it because they think the world will end. And skeptics don’t want it because it shows how foolish the alarmists assertions are. Yet, I want a warmer climate. I think it’s ridiculous that there’s still ice on this planet which wouldn’t take much at all when we consider cosmic scales to have the entire planet frozen over and these guys want it colder? Also, at below 200 ppm, there isn’t enough CO2 to keep plants alive. We’re on the low end of the spectrum. If we take up Steve Zwick on his offer, then mountainous regions are his and coastal lands are ours, right? RIGHT?
He’s making a list, is he checking it twice? he’s gonna find out who’s naughty or nice, the anti-Santa is coming to town,.
Two can play at that sick game. But let’s not.
I went to his web page… I think I’m going to be ill!
He left out ‘May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your arm pits’
Truly pathetic and mental.
Regards,
Michael
PS.. Thank you Mr. Watts for all that you do! Speaking of litany of Saints…
“Let’s swap their safe land for submerged islands.”
Hey, Steve, I’m ready to swap my land for some beach front property right now. My house is at 5,000 feet, so if you or your friends have some beach front property that you are worried about loosing to AGW, let me know and we can arrange a trade.
The story still shows, and now it appears Forbes no longer supports free-speech…I’m sure that’ll do their subscription base wonders.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevezwick/2012/04/19/a-tennessee-firemans-solution-to-climate-change/
From the comments:
Bluecloud 7 hours ago
If you look at the typical profile of a denier, you will find most of them are old, white men (just think of the Koch brothers and the rest of the 1%) who won’t be around, and certainly don’t want to be around when the fire catches hold. They are also most likely to have enough money to protect themselves, or their descendents to some extent as well. I suspect that some of them are also psychopaths with no sense of empathy toward others.
As ever, it’s the 99% who will suffer the most severe burns and it is this 99% who need to be persuaded to stop burning fossil fuels as we are all pouring gas on the fire right now. When the spark ignites we can be sure that the deniers will be long gone to their islands and bunkers.
So what can we do? Apart from reducing our individual impacts we can cooperate with those around us to build communities which can become resilient to disasters through things like local farming, local production, education and repair and innovation centers. We need to walk away from the lifestyle that is helping to burn down our houses.
Steve Zwick, Contributor 6 hours ago
That is the ultimate solution, but how do we turn off the torrent of BS these guys are flooding us with?
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Wow, “ultimate solution”…you heard it on Forbes first, a magazine that clearly can’t even stand up for free-speech in America.
If there are famines but they turn out to be a result of solar caused global coolling perhaps even accompanied by lack of CO2 what should we do Mr Zwick? The global warming scare would be blamed for the lack of preparation and therefore most of the deaths.
Will not take your advice but curious to know what it would be.
We know who the active catastrophists are – not the people who buy the lies, mind you, but the people who create the lies. Let’s start keeping track of them now, and when the famines come, let’s make them pay. Let’s subject their 14,000 sq ft houses to civil forfeiture. Let’s swap their private jets and cushy salaries for the tenement and food stamp lifestyle to which they would condemn others. Let’s force them to bear the cost of rising food and energy prices.
They broke the economy to enrich and empower themselves. Why should the rest of us have to pay for it?
That game may be played by more than one …