Got some vikes, AB, and a nap for my ear infection, decided to check email, found a link to this poll so figured I’d better pass it on. I was surprised.
Here’s question 88:
88. Which statement comes closest to your view about global warming? 1. Global warming is caused mostly by human activity such as burning fossil fuels or 2. Global warming is caused mostly by natural patterns in the earth’s environment. or 3. Global warming does not exist.
And here’s the results:
12 percent don’t think global warming exists. 42 percent say it’s man-made and 33 percent say it’s natural. 7 percent say it is a mixture of both, and 6 percent are in the “I dunno” or didn’t answer category. With only 42 percent saying it is human caused, that puts it in the minority view.
But what I think is even more telling is the fact that it didn’t even show up on the radar in question 3, which asks:
I’m sure “global warming” was in there somewhere, perhaps in the 14 percent of “other” responses seen near the end, but even with Al Gore’s recent media event to try to bring it to the forefront again, it appears to have had zero effect. Also telling: “Environment” gets less than 1 percent.
It’s jobs and economy which get the lions share of concern, which just goes to show that if people are poor, out of work, and hungry, they don’t have time to worry about elitist causes like Al Gore’s global warming crusade.
The poll with all questions is here: http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/250094/new-york-times-cbs-poll-results.pdf
The NYT news story on it is here: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/us/politics/obamas-support-is-slipping-poll-finds-but-his-jobs-plan-is-well-received.html?_r=1
Looks like the Gorefest did the trick.
I’d rather see a survey where problems are ranked by the respondents rather than allowing the respondents to name only one problem.
Eh up cloth ears! Well that is what they used to say to me!
Go get sorted, whether or not you like it, or expected it, there is a lot of society that benefits from your wellbeing, not the least youf family.
Please do whatever is needed to get well and be able to enjoy life.
Regards and many thanks for what you have achieved so far, it is significant and will in future, be seen as such.
I lost the top range in my left ear a long time ago, but she always sits on that side.
Kind of hard to spin these results. I wonder what the consequences for the team and their sycophants will be as the continue to goad the funding cow though ever greater efforts to manufacture evidence and alarm? They have been adamant that there must be consequences for violating consensus.
Al Gore covertly buying waterfront property at Montecito probably did more damage than all the various eco-gates combined. When future historians look back on this (to them) inexplicable craze, they will mark the moment Al Gore turned his back on the movement as the moment it truly died.
If they ask “do you think global warming is important enough to put yourself in the poor house”…..
……/snark
#3…global warming was right below little green men
The TEAM will simply say that “big oil” has paid millions to people to poison the perceptions of the people and that they need even more government money to combat the evil of … Exxon.
Note: I don’t love Exxon much myself, nor BP, but they are not the ones handing out billions of dollars in grant money as I understand it.
It’s just tragic that only 7% of people can think logically
7% didn’t say it was a mixture of both.
7% objected to the question, and gave an answer that wasn’t even on the list.
Maybe they could re-run the survey with that as a choice, and see how many people change their votes when a non-extreme choice is available.
One can take a further 10% off of the 42 % number to compensate for the weighting inaccuracies that dominate NY Times/CBS polls.
What’s the point in these poll’s, since when does public opinion make any difference to government policy on green issues.
I would love to see a survey where for once, one of the question is “Do you think human activity is going to or may lead to dangerous global warming?”
But, I don’t think they dare to make such a question.
They might not get the answer they want.
At the rate the NY Times is losing circulation, a better question would be “Do you believe in the NY Times?”
Hide the decline.
The only poll that means diddly squat is the one coming up in Nov. 2012.
If a poll existed that showed that a majority of people believed that global warming was a significant problem, would that make the SCIENCE stronger?
Viva Climate Family Feud! *) Long live to polls!
Sure! It is extremely interesting what morons on the street think about climate!
Mr. Watts, how long yet will you feed WUWT pages with this sh** of polls and what for?
Regards
*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Feud
[REPLY: Przemysław, you’re right, science is not conducted by polls or consensus, but note the banner at the top of the page “…and recent news…” – the poll is news. Further, CAGW is a political and social issue as well as a science issue. The poll, and its results, are relevant. A data-point, if you will. You aren’t required to read it. -REP, mod]
Zogby has done some polls with properly open-ended questions, not loaded in the usual way. They seem to be learning…..
Doug says:
September 17, 2011 at 6:07 pm
If a poll existed that showed that a majority of people believed that global warming was a significant problem, would that make the SCIENCE stronger?
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No, just the political advocacy.
Przemysław Pawełczyk says:
September 17, 2011 at 6:09 pm
“Sure! It is extremely interesting what morons on the street think about climate!”
For politicians, these are voters…
Przemysław Pawełczyk says:
September 17, 2011 at 6:09 pm
> [REPLY: Przemysław, you’re right, science is not conducted by polls or consensus,
> (…)
> Further, CAGW is a political and social issue as well as a science issue. The poll, and its results, are relevant.
Tell me then how much relevant they are, the polls? Do the participants know the subject from schools or WUWT pages or what they have learned from MSM (mainstream media)? Polls’ results are relevant? C’mon! Do not soap my eyes, please.
Regards
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/09/16/lawrence-solomon-warmed-right-over/
The global-warming theory is nearing its end as evidence against it mounts
Why do a majority of Canadians — 52% according to the latest Angus Reid poll — still hold the belief that humans are mainly responsible for global warming?
I think I know, based on the feedback I’ve received from literally thousands of Canadians who have commented in recent years on my articles dealing with global warming. Most of that 52% have so often been told that the science is settled on global warming, and so rarely that there is any credible dissent, that they have not yet twigged to straightforward information, such as the rejection by most top scientists of the global-warming dogma.
Just this week, Nobel Prize-winning physicist Ivar Giaever resigned as a fellow from the American Physical Society, saying he could not live with its nonsensical endorsement of global-warming alarmism. Dr. Giaever joins a host of other eminent scientists who have dismissed concerns over global warming, including Freeman Dyson, a Princeton physicist and America’s best known scientist, Antonino Zichichi, the president of the World Federation of Scientists and Italy’s best known scientist, Claude Allegre, a former socialist Minister of National Education, Research and Technology and France’s best-known scientist, and America’s Reid Bryson, known as the “father of scientific climatology” and judged “the world’s most cited climatologist” by the journal of the Institute of British Geographers.
In contrast to this Who’s Who of the scientific world, the list of top global-warming scientists falls far short. No scientist has been awarded a Nobel Prize in a science field for his work on global warming because no piece of science in the field has achieved a major scientific breakthrough. This despite the global-warming issue’s dominance of the scientific world for more than two decades, garnering the lion’s share of scientific funding and an inordinate amount of coverage in scientific publications. The only Nobel Prize conferred on global-warming advocates came from the political wing of the Nobel Prize establishment, which awarded them a prize for peace in consolation for their failure to merit a prize for science.
All of the arguments for the environmental movement, from Love Canal up to today, have amounted to crying wolf again and again. The public has finally figured out that the only real wolf threatening us is the environmental movement, which pushes us toward economic ruin and civil disorder for the personal profit of its leaders.
Marks Powers says:
September 17, 2011 at 6:28 pm
> No scientist has been awarded a Nobel Prize in a science field for his work on global warming because no piece of science in the field has achieved a major scientific breakthrough.
Not only. Also, because we should, no, we must live at least 1000 years to be able to say frankly that someone’s work on climate has been proven beyond doubt (on that level of knowledge) or brought in significant issues in understanding of it. In my view of course. In this context only Peace Prize was “safe” for the “Nobel Prize establishment”.
Regards
Members of society who are the staunchest supporters of the AGW meme are the under 25s, many of whom are members of activist groups such as WWF Greenpeace and Get Up (In Australia).
We need to remember that the origins of this scam goes back to the 80s. The Rio Earth Summit was in 1992. These naive young ‘uns have had the AGW meme pounded into them for their whole lives. They are not old enough to have personally experienced a 30 year climate.
Exclude this group from surveys, then see what the real feelings of the citizenry are regards this scam.
DirkH says:
September 17, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Przemysław Pawełczyk says:
September 17, 2011 at 6:09 pm
“Sure! It is extremely interesting what morons on the street think about climate!”
> For politicians, these are voters…
🙂 Thanks DirkH for the quiet reminder! I calming down. Yep, Voters *), I crammed it to my mind. 😉
Regards
*) Written from big letter means highest respect (in Polish for sure).