This is an OSU press release, timed to appear in Eurekalert for Cancun’s COP16 on December 8th, and reposted here verbatim, including the all caps headline. Even though the “melting on Kilimanjaro due to global warming” has been fully debunked by a recent peer reviewed paper (see Kilimanjaro’s snow – it’s about land use change, tree cutting) Dr. Thompson continues to push this false information.
For example, this is a photo (at left) of Dr. Thompson standing next to an ice spire on Kilimanjaro. Notice any meltwater pools nearby? You won’t, because they aren’t there. Read this quote from this entry to understand why:
The ice cap on Kilimanjaro consists of ice on the 5,700-meter-high flat summit, some with vertical edges, and several slope glaciers, mostly at altitudes where temperatures stay well below freezing and the major source of energy is solar radiation. Considerable infrared radiation is emitted from the glacier surface into the surrounding air, and the glaciers lose the most mass through sublimation-the direct conversion of ice to water vapor. Observers have seen only a trickle of meltwater.
Dr. Thompson seems not to want to understand the process of sublimation on Kilimanjaro – Anthony
RyanM chimes in: Tennis great(est) Martina Navratilova, who recently battled breast cancer, participated in a charity climb/hike up Kilimanjaro this week, but sadly had to turn back due to health concerns. However, an “unexpected blizzard” and really ugly “tropical winter” weather made her climb quite miserable. “We have sent a message down to our base camp to bring up thicker gloves, hand warmers and more heavy clothing. I was expecting it to be cold and snowy, but not so soon.”
CLIMATE SCIENTIST WARNS WORLD OF WIDESPREAD SUFFERING IF FURTHER CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT FORESTALLED.
COLUMBUS, Ohio – One of the world’s foremost experts on climate change is warning that if humans don’t moderate their use of fossil fuels, there is a real possibility that we will face the environmental, societal and economic consequences of climate change faster than we can adapt to them.
Lonnie Thompson, distinguished university professor in the School of Earth Sciences at Ohio State University, posed that possibility in a just-released special climate-change edition of the journal The Behavior Analyst.
He also discussed how the rapid and accelerating retreat of the world’s glaciers and ice sheets dramatically illustrates the nature of the changing climate.
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It is the first time in a published paper that he has recommended specific action to forestall the growing effects of climate change. During the last three decades, Thompson has led 57 expeditions to some of the world’s most remote high altitude regions to retrieve cores from glaciers and ice caps that preserve a record of ancient climate.
In the past Thompson has let his research data and conclusions speak for him but in this paper, intended for social scientists and behavior experts, he voiced his concern regarding the risks that ignoring the evidence of climate change may bring.
“Unless large numbers of people take appropriate steps, including supporting governmental regulations aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions, our only options will be adaptation and suffering,” he wrote in the concluding paragraph.
“And the longer we delay, the more unpleasant the adaptations and the greater the suffering will be.”
In the paper (available here), Thompson said that virtually all climate researchers “are now convinced that global warming poses a clear and present danger to civilization.”
His opinion isn’t hyperbole, he said, but instead is based on a “very clear pattern in the scientific evidence documenting that the Earth is warming, that the warming is due largely to human activity, that warming is causing important changes to many of the Earth’s support systems, and that rapid and potentially catastrophic changes in the near future are possible.
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“Unless large numbers of people take appropriate steps, including supporting governmental regulations aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions, our only options will be adaptation and suffering.” |
“Such future scenarios,” he says, “emerge not, as is often suggested, simply from computer simulations, but from the weight and balance of the empirical evidence as well.”
Thompson listed three options humanity has for dealing with global warming which, he says, “is here and is already affecting our climate, so prevention is no longer an option.”
“Clearly mitigation is our best option, but so far most societies around the world, including the United States and the other largest emitters of greenhouse gases, have done little more than talk about the importance of mitigation,” he says.
He says that there are currently no technological quick fixes for global warming.
“Our best hope,” he says, “is to change our behavior in ways that significantly slow the rate of global warming, thereby giving engineers and scientists time to devise, develop, and deploy technological solutions where possible.”
Thompson prefaced his advice with examples of the Earth’s diminishing ice cover, examples that constitute some of the strongest supporting evidence of the current threat of global climate change:
— The ice fields atop Mount Kilimanjaro have lost 85 percent of their coverage since 1912;
— The Quelccaya ice cap in southern Peru – the largest tropical ice field on Earth, has retreated 25 percent since 1978;
— Ice fields in the Himalayas that have long shown traces of the radioactive bomb tests in the 1950s and 1960s have since lost that signal as surface melting has removed the upper layers and thereby reduced the thickness of these glaciers;
— All of the glaciers in Alaska’s vast Brooks Range are retreating, as are 98 percent of those in southeastern Alaska. And 99 percent of glaciers in the Alps, 100 percent of those in Peru and 92 percent in the Andes of Chile are likewise retreating;
— Sea levels are rising and the loss of ice coverage in the North Polar region continues to increase annually.
“Everyone will be affected by global warming,” Thompson wrote. “But those with the fewest resources for adapting will suffer the most.”
A research scientist with Ohio State’s Byrd Polar Research Center, Thompson is a member of the National Academy of Sciences and a foreign member of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. In 2007, he received the National Medal of Science, the highest honor the United States gives to American scientists.
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Contact: Lonnie Thompson, (614) 292-6652: Thompson.3@osu.edu
Written by Earle Holland, (614) 292-8384; Holland.8@osu.edu.
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Of course he does, and I am sure he would be perfectly willing to accept a healthy grant to do just that!
Thanks Anthony!
Lonnie Thompson hides all of the data that he finds inconvenient. Despite repeated requests, he has obstinately refused to archive data that he collected on the taxpayer’s dime. If he said it was freezing outside I’d go to the window to look. The man is as far from a scientist as can be imagined, and the fact that he is still feted and given awards is a terrible indictment of climate science in general.
Moron. If he wants to do something, support efforts to reforest and brush the area. Plant bird and wild life friendly flora instead of posturing like a dim-witted jackass.
Good assessment, Willis!!
OSU = Ohio State University! *whew!* For a minute, I was worried that this clown was from Oklahoma State University! I wouldn’t think that very likely….
Perhaps Dr Thompson should consult a real expert and ask his wife how a frost free refridgerator works.
“– Sea levels are rising and the loss of ice coverage in the North Polar region continues to increase annually.”
The mind boggles! This quote and others are just outright wrong. For starters, the North Polar region is not defined but the implication (as two things are combined herein) is that melting Arctic ice contributes to sea level rise. He knows better. So why say it this way?
As for sea level rise – I recently posted on Tips & Notes . . .
John F. Hultquist says:
December 7, 2010 at 8:00 pm
. . . about this issue. See Tips & Notes.
In any case, the “world” isn’t going to do anything soon about carbon based energy and the sooner activists and the U.N. begin addressing actual problems the sooner current issues of “widespread suffering” can be mitigated.
It is inconceivable how any scientist could look at such a short snippet of Earth’s history and conclude that we are doomed to suffer adaptation to global warming – even if all of his data were correct, how can any scientific mind extrapolate unchecked warming throughout the comming centuries? – (actually millions of years if evolutionary adaptation is to take place). I guess the answer is: there’s no science left in these people – they’ve all drunk the warm-aid.
Lonnie Thompson: “Such future scenarios emerge not, as is often suggested, simply from computer simulations, but from the weight and balance of the empirical evidence as well.”
Isn’t it surprising that he fails to give one single example of this “empirical evidence” (for CAGW).
It is obvious that, as Willis said, this man is “far from a scientist.” Sorry if this offends some – but I would describe him as a UN-IPCC whore.
Shouldn’t this article have been posted under the “Funny Friday” heading ??
Sorry a bit OT but i thought some may find interesting.
Climate talks stance under fire
Newstalk ZB
December 11, 2010, 12:47 pm
New Zealand’s stance at the international climate talks in Mexico is under fire from senior doctors here.
Health professional organisation Ora Taiao spokeswoman, Dr Alexandra Macmillan, says New Zealand negotiators are harming the talks which end today.
She says they are seeking complex loopholes that will allow New Zealand to continue counting harvested exotic forests as carbon sinks even after they have been chopped down.
“Essentially what are representatives are doing is trying to fiddle the numbers so our figures look better which isn’t helping a new global deal”, she told Newstalk ZB.
Dr Macmillan says this may seem a canny economic move for New Zealand in the short term, but it will create a loophole for countries to destroy native forests and wet
lands.
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/8492044/climate-talks-stance-under-fire/
I haven’t read all of this, but I caught the tag for ‘Ohio State University’ and decided that I absolutely HAD to post a comment thanking you for ignoring the ridiculous tradition of “THE” _____ University or “THE” University of _____. You have spared a blood vessel in my brain from explosion, and for that I am in your debt one beer, mulled wine, whiskey and tonic, ginger ale, or whatever you drink. Thank you sir!
[snip – a bit OTT, try toning down a bit – Anthony]
‘In the paper (available here), Thompson said that virtually all climate researchers “are now convinced that global warming poses a clear and present danger to civilization.”’
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Nope. It should read:
“Virtually all climate researchers….pose a clear and present danger to civilization.”
Embedded in a current news story:
“Martina Navratilova has been hospitalised in Kenya with an accumulation of fluid in the lungs after attempting to climb Africa’s highest peak, according to a statement released on Friday evening.”
and
“The 27-person climbing team Navratilova was part of has faced heavy snows and mist since beginning the climb up the 5895-metre mountain on Monday.”
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/tennis-great-hospitalised-after-kilimanjaro-climb-20101211-18t71.html
Read it. I can’t imagine why you thought this was worthy of a response. It is a piece designed to build the street cred of Mr. Thompson. Note that he recites, “very clear pattern in the scientific evidence documenting that the Earth is warming, that the warming is due largely to human activity, that warming is causing important changes to many of the Earth’s support systems, and that rapid and potentially catastrophic changes in the near future are possible.”, just to show he’s putting his chips all in. The same boring tactic of making an outlandish claim that could go either way as far as anthropogenic sourcing and then citing a clear pattern of a bunch of others doing the same in scientific literature. Classic appeal to authority, except that even the authority is doing it now. What was so interesting about this one piece to merit a response? I am confused.
Thompson this man give science and scientists a bad name. I for one object. This is not science. Speculation, fiction, fabrication, opinion, religious faith, call it what you will but please not science.
“Dr. Lonnie Thompson pushes gloom and doom, still thinks the snows of Kilimanjaro are melting due to global warming”
Yet it was he who sought to convince “The Team” that “a lot of the tropical melting is due to sublimation, which isn’t accounted for by the degree day models” (Climategate email #0994186877). In email #1123685358 Phil Jones says “Lonnie Thompson has been on Quelccaya in the last couple of months and reports that it is in an awful state. Like Kilimanjaro, the recent annual layers aren’t distinguishable. Lonnie reckons a lot of retreat is caused by sublimation”.
In these and other emails, Thompson comes across as someone the “Team” (especially Jones) respect, and whose reasoned conclusions they trust, even when those conclusions run counter to their own, which worries them somewhat. So why the present “alarmist” stance? Either he’s changed his conclusions (which I doubt), or he’s simply decided to”pull for his own side” in the great debate, or he’s been cajoled into doing that. After all, the “settled science” has been melting, sublimating and generally shrinking for some time. Whatever the truth is, he’s gone down in my estimation.
I notice “The Behavior Analyst” also contained the following article:
“Wilhite, C. J., Wilhite, C., and Williams, W. L. Dragon Training and Changing Culture: A Review of DreamWorks’ How to Train Your Dragon.”
At least it had three co-authors that agree on the subject matter and write about it. Thompson, on the other hand, was the lone author of his article. So where are the thousands of scientists who believe in the consensus of AGW? Why are they not clamouring for co-authorship with Thompson?
Whistling in the dark if you ask me.
Sorry about the tone, I know it’s your blog, I am just confused as to what about this piece changed the status-quo position of the AGW crowd. They have ignored transpiration consistently, as far as I know.
I wish I had the time to research the geographical areas with large fauna losses and check the correlation to rainfall in surrounding areas. I am guessing this should actually be done with fauna cover concentration, similar to the measure of sea-ice area, but correlating loss of fauna area with drops in precipitation. Has it been done?
Anyhow, I’ll stop clogging up the thread with this rambling post, I just wanted to point out I wasn’t being so pointed, just confused what the point of this post was.
I echo Pat’s (9:46 PM) sentiments. Thompson stands at the top of the mountain to trumpet about global warming melting Kilimanjaro’s ice, having a clear view of the deforestation below. Yet he chooses to completely ignore what would be a clear, reasonable, and attainable solution – reforestation – preferring rather to beat the old CO2 dead horse again.
It’s people like Thompson who put the kibosh to many meaningful environmental programs by diverting attention and funding away from real problems that could benefit from real solutions.
You’ve gotta be kidding me. You snipped that?
It was not that bad.
Sometimes….it is hard to tell on here what can be written….and what can not.
Chris
Chris
David, UK says: December 10, 2010 at 10:18 pm
“It is obvious that, as Willis said, this man is “far from a scientist.” Sorry if this offends some – but I would describe him as a UN-IPCC whore.”
I’m offended.
What did whores do to deserve this cheap jibe? I’m sure some of them have integrity.
+1 savethesharks 🙂
Kilimanjaro, chekc this:
http://hidethedecline.eu/pages/posts/kilimanjaro-44.php
K.R. Frank
I recently saw a photo of people who had summited Kilimanjaro bounding down a rocky slope that appeared quite close to the summit and some ice nearby. Clouds of dust was being stirred up. Unfortunately I haven’t come across it again, but surely dark dust would help cause sublimation?