
Sunday was speaker orientation and the evening reception/dinner. I met up with Willis Eschencbach, watched and listened to him play the piano in the lobby. I took some photos with my cellphone camera, but they turned out badly. Willis and I had an interesting talk with Gary Sharp about Tuna acting as ARGO buoys.
Apparently the Tuna have a daily habit of feeding near the surface, then diving deep, repeating the process later in the day. Just like the ARGO buoys dive then float to the surface, so do the Tuna.
Somebody (and I don’t recall who) is fitting Tuna with temperature loggers that take a measurement every 20 seconds. Gary says that prelim tunatemp data isn’t showing different than ARGO.
That prompted me to recall a old TV jingle (being in TV for 25 years my head is full of them) that some readers may remember but I added a twist when I recited it at the table with a musical lilt.
Ask any Tuna you happen to see, where’s the global warming? It’s not in the sea!
I thought Willis might need resuscitation he was laughing so hard.
I had an afternoon meeting where I saw some extraordinary data cleaning and homogenization methods applied to surface temperature data to clean up the train wreck that it is now. It was quite impressive and far better than anything I’ve seen from NOAA or NASA. It makes their QC look like, well, Tuna salad. Or maybe a PBJ sandwich.
I met many people, including Donna Laframboise of Toronto who runs “no Frakking Consensus“who seems much younger in person than shown in her photo. I met with E.M. Smith (Chiefio) and Verity Jones (Digging in the Clay) also, and sat with them along with Joe D’aleo at the dinner reception.
Steve McIntyre gave his keynote presentation on the “trick” at dinner, along with Apollo 17 astronaut and Geologist Dr. Harrison Schmitt who talked about his views on current science. Both were well received. It was carried on live video streaming. PJTV is providing live video coverage (streaming and otherwise) at the PJTV CLIMATEGATE 2010 MICROSITE.
Bob Carter gave me his new book to read Climate: the Counter Consensus.
I gave a couple of interviews today. The interview I had in the evening after the keynote dinner with an independent crew working for BBC on some documentary on “The Skeptics” was unscheduled. They caught me in the grand hall asking if it could do an interview. It started out pleasant enough, but soon deteriorated. They had no organization at all and had no idea where to shoot it. They suggested we shoot the interview in my room, because they wanted to have me set in front of my computer. I thought that was more than a bit forward and suggested the foyer, we got there, setup and then after starting decided they didn’t like the setting. They they suggested that we go to the media room (which they apparently just discovered) so they tore down and went there.
After a couple of false starts the questions started coming. I started to wonder where they were going with this, and when they started asking about what I thought about Dr. Phil Jones “wanting to commit suicide” I realized that it wasn’t going to be factual, but more emotionally spun. I told them flat out that question and what went on in Dr. Jones mind/intent wasn’t something I could or would comment on since I have no information beyond the press report.
These two independent filmakers were just kids, early 20’s and were struggling to come up with questions. They kept trying to get me to use the word “fraud” as applied to Dr. Jones. There were about five attempts to do so in questions, asking essentially the same question over and over again in different ways.
They also asked why climate skeptics are so “angry” and why there are so many nasty comments on forums. I pointed out that they should visit some of the entertainment forums where people talk about celebrities like Britney Spears etc if they wanted to see some real vitriols, and that nasty comments are a part of the blogosphere, particularly when anonymous commenting is involved. Alarmists make a lot of nasty comments. Look up dhoghaza and Joe Romm.
The capper came at the end when they asked me to sign a release form. I was shocked, because standard procedure is to have the interviewee look over and sign the release form before the interview.
Reading it was like reading no other release form I’ve ever seen. It had a clause that said “gives us the right to use your content however we see fit” which concerned me because usually an interview for a documentary is limited to that venue. For all I know they may put me on a political comedy show.
Then there was something I’ve never encountered in all my years of television. An oath of “honesty and factual accuracy” was in the release. While I certainly thought I answered honestly and factually, this clause concerned me. When somebody interviews me on a contentious subject like climate, I’m giving my opinion. Opinions are almost always disputed. I was sure mine would be. To have such a clause connected to one’s opinion is just insane because then someone can hold up anything and say “but scientific consensus says..etc…etc…so Mr. Watts lied and violated his contractual oath in the release form”. It’s not a court of law, it’s an interview. Jeez Louise!
The release was obviously written by amateurs, and I refused to sign it. They then admitted that “it’s being revised to ‘simplify it’ and ‘could we send you a revision?’. I said I’d look at it, gave them my card with email address, told them that I thought they had the process backwards and that I was unhappy with being confronted with flawed legal language after giving a good faith interview, and left.
My impression is that whoever hired these two kids for the BBC is in for a peck of trouble down the road. I doubt the documentary on skeptics will be little more than a slam job. We’ll see if they try to use me even though I have NOT signed the release.
That’s an hour of my life I’ll never get back.
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How many quadrilllions of quatloos are in the BBC retirement fund that these two kids will never see?
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Anthony, thanks for taking the time to update us on the goings on in spite of your busy schedule.
Legal issues. They want a release signed? Will the kids at the BBC sign a release saying they didn’t change a single word or phrase in the interview? Contracts are a 2 way street. Has Algore signed his consents under oath?
I am glad the media showed up. To some extent, they may have written their story before they got on the plane. Now they may be unable to land if they go back. The volcanoe caused by melting is still active.
Did the BBC independent filmmakers try to corner you into admitting to being a “birther”, too?
Sounds like you had a great time. I’m not surprised by the characterization of the BBC interviewers, as it has been my observation that lately the BBC is not concerned with facts in their documentaries relating to controversial subjects, but merely what has the most shock value. Conservation films like “Life” and “Planet Earth,” ostensibly pieces designed to showcase the wonder and beauty of nature often go down a path of emotional appeals to save mother nature from the evil advances of Mankind. Imagine how much more so a piece labeled “the Skeptics” that deals specifically with those who do not worship the view that the evidence proves we are causing irreparable harm to the great Mother.
The downside of all those excellent wild-life documentaries and the “pro-nature” ethos in the BBC is that we get all those stupid climate-scare stories from the “pro-nature” ethos in the BBC which never stops to consider that being pro-nature doesn’t mean swallowing every bit of nonsense on the environment.
Thanks for taking the time to let us know how you are doing. It’s a shame someone wasn’t filming the BBC filming you, it would have made great U Tube material.
Interesting piece… just to note, when Anthony says these guys were ‘working for the BBC’, I would say it’s quite likely that these were independent film makers hoping to sell something to the BBC, rather than actual BBC employees. The BBC doesn’t make many programs itself any more, a huge amount is bought in from independent production companies.
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Ask any Tuna you happen to see, where’s the global warming? It’s not in the sea!
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Sorry, Charlie. Only the best tuna get to be Starkist Tuna.
Sounds like you need to get one of those cheap HD video cameras Glenn Reynolds is always talking about and set it up in the corner of the room to capture the whole process in raw form.
Chris Long is correct. The BBC and many media outlets use sub contractors. Sub contractors also sign agreements holding the BBC harmless.
Have fun in the windy city. I am sure a side trip to the massive Carbon climate Trading Exchange would be unique. For 10 cents a ton, carbon credits; get them while they are hot.
Tunamometers! I wonder what unintended consequences that will lead to? It will turn out that some excitedly reported spurious trend will turn out to be tuna mating season or some such.
Thanks for the update, Anthony. Sounds like it will be a great conference.
Don’t worry about the BBC kids. Chris Long could well be right. Besides, now you have a great story to tell!
I doubt they were really from the BBC! They were much too unprofessional.
My father has described to me this very scenario dozens of times. This attempt to corner you and then edit the (snip) out of it later, seems particularly amateurish. Nice to hear you jabbed Willis in his funny bone !!
OT, but someone needs to respond to Krugman’s column, How Will They Spin This?
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/how-will-they-spin-this/
re new GISS release showing hottest 12 months on record.
I guess my first response would be to ask, “What were the raw temperature readings?”
What Chris Long 0742 stated is correct, including much work being done “on spec”, but the BBC always have the final say – that’s the way it’s always been done, back to 1920s radio. It also means that they can and may use in future any “archive” material in any way, edited in any way including out-of-sequence and way out of the context in which the interview / recording took place.
Don’t bother signing or even being part of this crock.
There has been a couple of documentaries made by budding journo’s on the BBC.
‘Undercover cop’ and so on.
They always pick their subject and go great guns to incite folk to do or say things controversial.
They would never make a documentary called ‘Undercover biased BBC executive’ that is for sure.
Great update, Anthony. Thank you.
“What’s the best tuna? Chicken of the Sea!”
(Announcer: “Sorry, Charlie. You’re just not good enough for Chicken of the Sea.”)
Wow, way to disabuse the process there! Oh, now that we have asked you all these questions, will you sign this release form saying that we can use your content however we see fit, and on top of that, now that we have all these answers, we will have you sign an oath to answer the questions factually and honestly. So we can edit it to make it look like you are lying, and destroy evidence that you weren’t, and stay within the bounds of our contract. Sounds fair to me.
I see Costa Rica’s Christiana Figueres is taking over Yvo de Boer’s UN climate job. Not too encouraging, since the other prospect was from South Africa and reluctant to cripple developing nation economies with a climate regime.
I seriously envy you, meeting with all those we hear from regularly and have respect for. Thanks for the update.
Don’t worry about ‘The men from Auntie’.
Nice to hear AccuWeather is there!
http://www.accuweather.com/ukie/bastardi-europe-blog.asp?partner=accuweather
I’ll believe we have turned the corner on climate change when I can read/see/hear objective comments about the ICCC Conference in the mainstream media.
Apparently, it won’t be this year. After the Climategate bump in the road, the media has reinserted the old eight-track cartridge in the player….