From the Corbett Report:
Retired climatologist Dr. Tim Ball was interviewed to discuss the significance of the recently leaked emails and documents from the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University. These emails reveal stunning behind-the-scenes details, and Dr. Ball shares his insights on what they show. Of interest is what he has to say about the Wegman report.
The interview was conducted in studio, by telephone and runs about 10 minutes.
See the video below.
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Great piece from Dr. Ball. Unfortunately, we are all Winston now…
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YXWl6i2GBg ]
Nice reply with the Orwell/Winston clip. Love that. What I want to see is Gore and suzuki in jail, as well as these other crooks at the CRU.
A little OT perhaps, but just learned of an unusual ETF trade on the 18th. Someone dumped 20 times the normal trading volume of a green fund. First Trust NASDAQ® Clean Edge® Green Energy Index Fund (QCLN) . “The index is a modified market capitalization weighted index designed to track the performance of clean energy companies that are publicly traded in the United States and includes companies engaged in manufacturing, development, distribution and installation of emerging clean-energy technologies including, but not limited to, solar photovoltaics, biofuels and advanced batteries. ”
Draw your own conclusions, but either someone was very on the ball, or had a heads up on the Hadley business. Tomorrow should be interesting on FoxBusiness and others.
http://www.ftportfolios.com/retail etf/ETFpricehistory.aspx?Ticker=QCLN
I agree with Timothy Ball that there must have been some law broken in their manipulation of data.
Dr. Ball is correct when he says that it is a troubling time for climate scientists. They all look like those economists who two years ago claimed that the collapse of major banks is impossible. What a pathetic group of clowns. I cry no tears for them.
Curiousgeorge (18:49:11) :
Since this material actually became available on the 17th, perhaps someone downloaded when they first saw the links that were spread then.
You mean like allegedly deliberately deleting, and encouraging (conspiring with others) to delete material that had been requested under FOI statues?
Yeah. Perhaps a few.
The real question is will there be a congressional investigation, a hold placed on all climate legislation, etc, etc. (sadly not very likley, since the legislation has little to do with protecting the world.)
Repeat after me:
Not Hadley.
Not Hadley.
Not Hadley.
Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University. Hell, if people here can’t keep it straight, then this is not going where it should.
REPLY: suggest to them then to rename the temperature product they produce to something other than HadCRUT. That is where much of the confusion is rooted. – Anthony
It is high time to get legal opinions on these revelations — this is not an academic ‘tempest in a teapot’. The AGW ‘science’ is a serious political conspiracy that deserves and requires a serious and organized response. The cabal has captured a number of scientific organizations such as the American Chemical Society, and it is time for the rank and file to rebel.
Incredible revelations. But will they be enough?
We have Fairfax press in Australia continuing to completely ignore that any of this has happened. All this will do is clearly show the public that they are a dinosaur that is no longer credible. The collusion between all these parties is incredible and appalling!
Has there been any commenting from the scientific journals that were targeted. The ones that either rolled over or resisted?
I’d be interested to read some confirmation along the lines “yeah, we got emails threatening to withdraw from publishing with us in the future”, or “yeah, we noticed a sharp drop in submissions from these particular scientists after we published so and so”.
Doug in Seattle (19:00:11) :
What time (eastern) on the 17th did FOIA make his post? Whoever made that trade acted very fast. The majority of the trade happened within an hour of market open on Wed. Run the 5 day chart at http://money.cnn.com/quote/chart/chart.html?pg=ch&symb=QCLN&time=5dy&freq=1hr&charts=0&comp=&compidx=aaaaa~0&ind_compind=&uf=0&lf=1&ma=0&maval=60 .
Very “on the ball” as I mentioned. We’ll see in the next few days, if it was a smart move or not.
Confirms what I have suspected: They got into weather data worldwide and corrupted it.
I have one burning question now:
Where does one turn to find the data that existed before the CRU/IPCC began purging it to suit thier own purposes?
Anybody?
If you don’t understand something, think money. There is a major money trail leading to the coffers of the “Hockey Team.” Government grants, major grants — big money. The “Hockey Team” is an organized group of bandits; they have manipulated data, perverted science, destroyed reputations of fellow scientists, intimidated editorial boards, conspired to restrict the publication of works that do not support AGW, colluded with other groups to spread AGW propaganda, and instigated an elaborate shield to prevent public examination of their data and methodology. Bandits! Not scientists. So powerful did they become that they assumed effective control of the IPCC, and as such, gained international influence with many governing bodies. Power and arrogance! This is a great EVIL. It must be prosecuted in the courtroom. Until then, I propose that the “Hockey Team” be shunned. If “Cap & Trade” is passed or EPA greenhouse gas emissions regulations are imposed, these e-mail and data files must be taken into the courtroom and presented as evidence to expose this fraudulent hoax. Sometimes I wish I was a lawyer.
Very good.
A clan of 42 insiders controlling the peer review process, creating their own climate fantasy by cooking the data. Brilliant. I
This puts a bomb under the IPCC2007 report and it’s conclusions.
As a consequence, any Government and any politician engaging in a decision making process based on suspect data is liable.
So what we have to do is make an inventory which reports and which data in the IPCC 2007 report could be tempered with and inform the politicians what’s going on.
I don’t think that you will find any politician who sticks his head in a sling voluntarily.
They detest public scams. Bad for the career.
Time for a lawyer and an investigation me thinks.
Jim G. (19:01:04) :
I have seen no commentary from any politicos about the CRU emails. I hope they are aware of the situation. I really hope it isn’t as you said – seeing this is political & has nothing to do with protecting the world.
Is any one aware of any commentary from any one in the political realm, esp from the US?
Curious George
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=QCLN
the spike appears to have been on the 16th rather than the 18th. but, i’m certainly no expert in this stuff. i’m just an engineer.
but, at least i DO know that science does NOT involve hiding data.
CTV (Canadian Television) won’t touch this story. I encourage Canadians to write to them.
Unlike others who have posted above, I don’t see this as being about revenge. We are dealing with a problem so fundamental that revenge is irrelevant.
Don’t misunderstand me Alarmists:
I’m not in favor of toxic pollution; I’m opposed to misinformation about [anthropogenic] climate change and I walk &/or sea-kayak 95% of the time when I travel.
You are blocking research oriented towards understanding nature deeply – and as an ecologist and longtime advocate of parks & natural forests, I have disgust of the deepest variety for the costs you are bringing upon the reputation of the environmental movement.
You appear to appreciate nature less than your unsupportable, abstract notions about it.
I sincerely hope Anthony will soon be free to change the channel back to inspiring science articles, because administrative politics is sickening & draining.
It’s interesting to read the big Real Climate comments since this broke – Gavin is spinning like a top. There’s a desperation present that’s never been there before – he’s running scared!
I went to the web site this clip comes from. Do you really want to be associated with 9/11 Truthers? This is exactly why the mainstream media feels comfortable in ignoring any opposition to warmist orthodoxy.
Gentlemen (and Ladies!)….
A suggestion from my Brother, Dr. Daley Hugoson – “The proper term is
de-canonization”, which means the REMOVAL of the Phd status by the “canonizing” institute.
Now judging by the general “integrity” of Universities these days (i.e. NONE,
“SOLD the HIGHEST BIDDER”, “Sold, the the LEFTMOST WING..” etc., Harvard
is planning an changing “Lux et Veritas” (Light and Truth) to “Obscurum quod Subjectio” (Darkness and Falsehood)..We doubt highly that the “spheres between the legs” are big enough on ANY University administration to have a hope of the audacity to WITHDRAW a Phd from any of our CRU Academic Felons.
However, stranger things than this have happened in life.
And movements start somewhere.
SO let us therefore move to have Phd’s REMOVED from the likes of Jones,
Mann (particularily MANN..the error on his data analysis is agregious and really UNFORGIVABLE)…Software QUALITY ASSURANCE is an ESTABLISHED DISCIPLINE, and these Yo-Yo’s doing NONE of that, deserve NOTHING. NO salary, no status, no recognition.
It’s time was start a movement to DEMAND THIS.
Any seconds on the motion?
So moved? The vote is?
Well, if analysed by the CRU it would be 1000 to Zero.
Could this turn into Al Gore’s Teapot Dome?
…The irony there is Elk Hills….Sold by the Clinton administration under rather, uh, unusual conditions to Occidental Petroleum, which Gore had a stake in….
Prepare yourself for some of the finest double-speak the world has ever heard as spin doctoring takes a hot new twist.
Mann and Jones are busted. Funding for them will dry up and it should and they may get demoted the way passive agressive universitys operate.