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The RSS (Remote Sensing Systems of Santa Rosa, CA) Microwave Sounder Unit (MSU) lower troposphere global temperature anomaly data for November 2008 was published today and has risen slightly. This is the new data version, 3.2 which changed in October. The change from October with a value of 0.181°C (V3.2) to November 0.216°C is a (∆T) of +0.035°C
RSS
2008 1 -0.070
2008 2 -0.002
2008 3 0.079
2008 4 0.080
2008 5 -0.083
2008 6 0.035
2008 7 0.147
2008 8 0.146
2008 9 0.241 (V3.1)
2008 10 0.181 (V3.2)
2008 11 0.216 (V3.2)
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Hmmm.. very interesting, Perhaps I was right about the probability of 2008 being a mere blip, similar to earlier 1990s dips… but with La Niña coming back with a vengeance only time will tell!
Well…another consecutive month where it’s “up slightly”. I wonder if all these minute variations are within the margin of reliability of the system.
The plot apparently omits the 0.241 C value for September. Or did that change during the v3.1 to v3.2 corrections?
Well, isn’t that hotter than nov 07? That would be the first time this year I suppose we go over 2007, no?
The Amsu-discover site is pretty nice to follow such temperatures on a daily basis. It looks like December is having a hot start… Time will tell
Looks to me like the Southern Hemisphere warmed a little and the Northern Hemisphere cooled. The region between the -70 and -60 seems to have seen the most increase from the nominal.
Next year should be intersting. With the satellite records having established their base during the positive PDO, there ought to be increasing negative anomalies showing up during the negative PDO. Just great! The older I get, the colder it’s getting. Soon we’ll start seeing heaps of snow in the winters to match those I remember from my youth oh too many decades ago…
anyone know why the link to RSS that i have been using for months doesn’t seem to have been updated since september data was updated in October? i am still waiting for the October data:
ftp://ftp.ssmi.com/msu/monthly_time_series/rss_monthly_msu_amsu_channel_tlt_anomalies_land_and_ocean_v03_1.txt
is there a better link that i am not aware of?
ok, so i feel stupid…i just updated it by using anthony’s link. please disregard!
As with Anthony’s La Nina post, the data have peaked and are poised for a drop. Perrhaps less impressively than winter 2007/2008.
QED, the ocean remix flushing the heat available to the surface is complete and an atmospheric capitulation appears some few weeks ahead.
Anthony,
0.211 for 9/08, not 0.241
“Time will tell”/Flannagan
Why don’t we do some real science while we’re waiting? Instead of going full bore ahead with an alleged cure to an alleged disease which can’t possibly work as administered – leaving countries containing 5 billion of the Earth’s 6.5 billion people out of it’s scope – and whose side effects are easily seen to be a real disaster.
Consider this. The zero point for Satellite Temps is .1C warmer than the COLDEST year in the last 70 years (if you believe the Ground instrument record).
So we are now .3C above the coldest year since 1930.
Some warming!
Following on from your post a couple of month ago titeled: Ireland has 30 year cold event, plus coldest September in 14 years.
Well for October you could say: first month with below normal mean temperatures at all stations since October 2004, and it was the coldest October for 15 years in the east of the country.
And for November:Dublin Airport had its coldest November day since records began there in 1941 and lowest November ground temperatures at many stations for between 12 and 23 years recorded between the 28th and 30th.
Source: http://www.met.ie/climate/monthly-summary.asp
The September value in your table is not correct.
Version 3.2
2008 1 -0.066
2008 2 -0.012
2008 3 0.063
2008 4 0.067
2008 5 -0.078
2008 6 0.063
2008 7 0.158
2008 8 0.145
2008 9 0.194
2008 10 0.181
2008 11 0.216
Version 3.1
2008 1 -0.070
2008 2 -0.002
2008 3 0.079
2008 4 0.080
2008 5 -0.082
2008 6 0.035
2008 7 0.147
2008 8 0.146
2008 9 0.211
So Anthony, just looking at the RSS plot, it is suspiciously like the last UAH I have seen.
It would be nice to see this updated RSS, and UAH on top of each other again.
That four layer plot you gave us a while back, with the Sat gurus, and the Owl box gurus all together, was very instructive.
Either these up and down steps are just noise or else they are real signal, and if they are real signal, then cooling is cooling. next month’s anomaly starts form this month’s temperature; not from the datum. The fact that it is up a bit is (presumably) very real but it is also true that it isa down from 1998 and also form 2007.
There is no mystery to the fact that some of the highest temperatures tend to occur around the maximum, just as some of the highest altitudes on earth tend to occur up in the mountains.
VERY cold weather being predicted here in England for Saturday night – talk of minus 8 degrees C! Can’t remember that in early December.
The slight warming for November makes sense if increased atmospheric moisture is slowing the cooling of the Northern Hemisphere. December should be slightly cooler, and January – February should take a dive. Patience.
Looks like a new La Nina is cranking up (despite all the models saying there won’t be one this NH winter).
http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.html
If the next La Nina causes a similar step down in temperatures to the last then the AGW myth/dogma/hysteria will be over, bar a great deal of shouting. The next 6 months will be interesting.
The slight warming for November makes sense if increased atmospheric moisture is slowing the cooling of the Northern Hemisphere. December should be slightly cooler, and January – February should take a dive. Patience.
Increased atmospheric moisture? from where? Have I missed something? I don’t get it. We’re in a deep solar minimum that, according to what we’ve been reading on this blog for the last 12 months or so, is a precursor to the next mini ice age. We’ve also just emerged from a strongish, if fairly short-lived, La Nina yet over in Russia Moscovites are enjoying early morning coffee on the patio. That certainly is unprecedented.
“December should be slightly cooler” – should it? well it’s not made a very good start. Siberia is enjoying a ‘heatwave’, Africa is warmer than normal and S. America has long got over it’s chill from last year. Despite the solar minimum and current ENSO status, global temperatures are still higher than they were during the last major La Nina period (1998-2001).
Apparently, though, we now need “patience” because global temperatures are going to thake a dive in January and February. Why? Ok – it’s possible another moderate La Nina may develop but SST anomalies in NINO regions have been generally negative for the whole of the past year .
Here in Alabama we are in the midst of several months of below “normal” temps Nada the predictions are for more below “normal” temps. I think we just might have a real winter this year.
Bill Derryberry
Not a trend just cold.
John Finn
Are you sure about that?? I live in South Africa, which although being a large country (doesn’t include the whole of Africa),, but still this year we have recored the coldest winter, record snow on the Spring Solstice of sept 21 (in places that have never seen snow since around 1890s) and currently we have NO physical summer, we have had constant rain since about April, temperatures which should be reaching 37degrees celcius today are, now as I type, hovering around 18 degrees. This weather is NOT warmer than normal. Locals are complaining about the excess rain and there has been flooding all along the coast.
Oh good grief.. Flanagan is “attacking” this blog as well…Denny and Conga are having a huge battle with him on globalwarminghoax.com!
I agree with some comments and anticipate Jan to June 09 measurements
Not only that, but I recieved anecdotal confirmation from a rather grumpy elderly neighbour who says that the current weather has not been like this since the 1970s,, O_o! AHA which brings to mind the global cooling of the 70s!
Anthony here is something woth noting,,,
according to the folks at icecap (http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Sunspotless_days.JPG) who have been watching the sun’s activity (or lack thereof), so far we are in third place with regards to the lowest sunspot count in the last 100 years. As of the 6th of December we are 244 days of no spots, only ten more days of solar slumber and 2008 will be in second place behind 1913! But can you imagine if the tiny tims weren’t counted, we would surely be higher since it was unlikely they were counted in 1911-1913.
I know anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all, but this is the coldest November/December I’ve experienced here in the UK for quite some time. There’s no way in hell this November was warmer than last!
I know anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all, but this is the coldest November/December I’ve experienced here in the UK for quite some time. There’s no way in hell this November was warmer than last!
We haven’t got the mild Nov/Dec temps we’ve become used to over the last few years but we’re hardly in a deep freeze. Looking at figures for our region November was slightly cooler than last year but that was due mainly to the cold weather in the last few days. But the real point, of course, is that the UK is a tiny pinprick on the earth’s surface and has very little effect on te global figures.
Are you sure about that?? I live in South Africa, which although being a large country (doesn’t include the whole of Africa)
The ‘warm’ anomaly appears to be in the central african region. I’ll check it out again, though.
Also what about Canada that seems to be pretty toasty at the moment.
Well, if you watch the maps you could have seen a bubble of warmth coming up from the Sahara region over Greece ( rains are muddy from the desert dust) and the Balkans and Turkey , into Russia. That is why the temperature for Europe is not showing the cold you all are anecdotaly reporting.
Speaking of anecdotes:
Our temperatures are mostly mild and over the expected for this time of the year, but not too unusual. In my over 50 years of following weather I have seen it as warm and warmer in December. There was one december way back when I was young when all the fruit trees thought it was spring and they blossomed. It has not happened yet and it may not, since the reports are for cooling after the middle of next week. ( cold in Attica is around and below 10C, cloudy and 18C at the moment).
Our problem is that for a year now not enough rain is falling. The clouds are very jealous and do not let go of the water. My anecdotal observation is that this happens when there are not enough electric storms. The storms that come with thunder and lightning are the ones that give us plenty of water ( and a leak from my vacation cottage roof 🙂 ). It is over a year now that my roof has not leaked :).
I do not remember the last time the weather was like this. It might have been during the previous sunspot minimum, anyway, some time ago .