I remember once having an argument on this blog with someone who claimed Al Gore was “no longer political” but now was “all about science”. Erasing all doubt, Gore’s “We” campaign announced today a series of webcasts to America’s youth designed to target students at college campuses to enhance their voting on election day.
You can read all about it (and signup to watch) here on the webpage “Gore Power Vote“. they say:
On Oct. 29, former Vice President Al Gore will address youth everywhere in the first-ever Power Vote live webcast. He’ll be talking about his Repower America challenge, the connections between the economic and climate crises, and the importance of the upcoming election.
Sign up below to join the webcast.
Hmm, I wonder who he will push to vote for? In a mailing obtained by WUWT, Cathy Zoi, CEO of “we can solve it” announced this:
Power Vote webcast to college campuses across the nation
Wednesday, October 29th, 2008
5pm Pacific / 6pm Mountain / 7pm Central / 8pm Eastern
After the webcast, Power Vote will be kicking off six days of Get-Out-The-Vote campaigning on key campuses across the country, urging young people to make clean energy and climate a top priority in their vote this election. Youth turnout is going to be a crucial factor in this election, and the young leaders on these campuses are going to be the ones who usher in the new clean energy economy that Vice President Gore is calling for.
Our good friends at the Energy Action Coalition are co-sponsoring this webcast with us, and driving the Power Vote campaign on campuses. The passion of these young leaders, in dozens of small organizations across the nation, is a true inspiration.
While this method of “getting out the vote” is certainly part of our democratic system, given the propensity for Mr. Gore to exaggerated and in many cases use discredited talking points when he discusses climate issues, one wonders if these young impressionable minds will be able to withstand Gore’s glizty barrage and find the real answers themselves. I once beleived what Gore and hansen were talking about in the late 80’s and early 90’s, now I think they are like Jake and Elwood Blues (you can choose who should fit what role) on a “mission from God” to save the penguin, er world.
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I was wondering how that $300 million for “marketing” was going to be spent.
It all seems like a weird 60s Sci-Fi movie, it’s an election right? Sorry if I forgot.
It is sad that people like Gore get any attention at all. It will be sadder if people vote for AGW as their new religon.
The obvious answer is for us to make sure WE vote in this election.
You can always tell a demagogue. Their self-perceived greatness allows them to exempt themselves from whatever nostrum they prescribe for their inferiors; i.e. everyone else.
Thus does Al Gore demand that the rest of us reduce our use of natural resources (such as electricity, etc.) while, unrestrained, he gobbles up whatever attracts his appetite….. Disgusting!
“The importance of the upcoming election” is to get Al back in the White House.
Doesn’t anyone remember that this guy and his wife wanted to censure lyrical content in music? That alone should tell you where his mind is set . Control.
Hmmph…
I remember The Coming Ice Age era. I was out of college and wearing Uncle Sam’s green suit. Still a bit wet behind the ears {though no longer quite that wet}. Read those tales of pending disaster thinking that these are scientists and they must know something — time can be such a good source of enlightenment on that issue. {Remember The Population Bomb or Club of Rome?} But I at least had the good sense to understand that even if it were true, we had a good long time to adjust to that type of scenario.
Now, courtesy of Mr. Gore, we can see how throughly politicized the area of climate science has become. He is leading the charge to corrupt responsible care of scarce resources into a dogmatic approach that may very well inflict serious damage on the world economy. When the dust settles and the climate turns colder over the coming decades, there will be vast hordes of disillusioned suckers that will look back on this foolishness they took part in and feel betrayed and played. In addition to the many economic victims of this silly fantasy trip, there will be serious harm done to the reputation of science for the way so many scientists, who should have known better, jumped into the AGW movement.
The new touchstone in this political arena is ten years. We must act in ten years, we’ll reach a tipping point in ten years, we must replace our energy infrastructure in ten years. Hysteria is not a pleasant sight to see on an aging third-rate politician’s face; it’s an even less pleasing sight to see on any scientist’s face. Unfortunately, I expect to be around long enough to be able to unsatisyingly say, “I told you so.”
This is not the first time I have seen his supporters refer to Mr Gore as “Vice President Gore”. As I understand it, past Presidents are granted the honorary title “President” for life, hence it is correct to refer to President Cater, President George HW Bush and President Clinton; but the office of Vice President does not entitle the holder to any honorary title once his term of office is over.
I wonder whether Mr Gore has taken any steps to prevent this misuse of a title he does not have.
Woops, I meant President Carter, no offence intended.
Al Gore, nobel prize winner right along with Yasser Arafat.
He never saw a hockey stick he didn’t like. It’s hard to imagine how people listen to him about CO2 while he flys around in his private jet. — Huts my brain.
Anyway, I continued my Grant Tamino posts looking at a 3 year trend.
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/more-evidence-of-taminos-folly/#more-1201
Anthony, I love the website and reading all the posts. It is great that people can disagree without being disagreeable. Crucial in moving mankind forward. You may know of my father, Dr. Tim Ball. I would like to tell you the tale of how my father has been smeared and marginalized by the media, but it would take an enormous amount of time. David Suzuki has gone to great lengths to make sure that my father is viewed as “a nutbar”. I would like for you to see the relevance of my dad’s work on this issue, and what he has been saying for 30 years. There is no political or monetary motivation behind it. Simply to further the science. It is a sad story that many on this side of the debate can attest to. Feel free to contact me if you like. Sadly, no “oil money” in our lives as Dr. Suzuki would have you believe. My father’s Doctor of Science in climatology is real as well, despite what desmogblog have posted. Strange how the media have listened to those without credentials on the subject, yet have disregarded many who have. Dr. Lindzen, Dr. Fred Singer, Dr. Tim Patterson, and on and on. WFUWT? Thank you again for your amazing website.
When considering the people at the top of the AGW pile (Gore, Hansen, The hockey Stick Team, et al), I am reminded of a book titled “Snakes in Suits…” at http://www.amazon.com/Snakes-Suits-When-Psychopaths-Work/dp/0061147893/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1224825170&sr=8-1
Hmmm… if the profile fits…. I’m happy to let everyone draw their own conclusion on this…
One question. Is this not the same Albert Arnold Gore who, a couple of years ago during the release of that astounding scientific masterpiece of Hollywood showmanship, “An Inconvenient Truth”, in which he boasted sea-level rises around the world of 20 feet or more? Yet in the same year purchase $4.0M worth of sea-front condominium a few fet from the sea?
Well, always DAISNAID! Do As I Say Not As I Do! Perhaps there is time for him & his offspring to enjoy it for a few years before selling on to some unsuspecting sap!
I found it interesting, that Gore’s new website (and more disturbingly many media websites supporting AGW) do not have a forum or only crippled versions, where readers can express their opinions.
I found out, that there is a high correlation between quality of journalism and the ability for readers to comment.
On the issue of giving people honorifics they may not deserve, the Australian Broadcasting Commission (ABC – Government funded radio station) this morning called Mr Rajendra Pachauri (chair of the IPCC) ‘the world’s senior climate scientist’. They were discussing the Austrlian Government Garnaut Report on the effects of an emissions trading scheme – and, of course, we are not doing enough).
The world’s climate scientists would probably balk at the notion that they are part of a seniority system and do the pronouncements of the ‘senior’ scientist make them more correct? I took this to be spin on the part of the ABC to lend credence to Mr Pachauri’s words.
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{Remember The Population Bomb or Club of Rome?}
All too well.
David Ball:
Hello, welcome, and give your dad a wave for me. His work is among the first to open my eyes to what is going on!
And, from the perspective of a Calgarian, I can assure you that Suzuki is viewed here as the king of the nutbars. Heck, they could wrap him in plastic and sell him beside the Oh Henry and Eat Mores. If only “The Nature Of Things” hadn’t vaulted him (via taxpayer money) to a measure of credibility.
Leon Brozyna: “The new touchstone in this political arena is ten years.”
That’s probably no accident – it’s a nice round figure. Ten years is short enough to appear fairly urgent (as opposed to fifty years) and long enough to avoid being obviously silly (as opposed to two years.) And a decade from now is long enough to be quietly forgettable once the tipping point tips and nothing scary happens. After all, who remembers anything that was said in 1998?
Cynical? Moi?
I can’t wait to see the reaction of business when Gore lands on earth.
It’s part of the deal to get the Climate and Energy Czar position, which will oversee the DOE and EPA…call it DOEP if your wish.
That bureaucracy would make the IRS look like a Salvation Army santa. Remember – CO2 is a pollutant!
Leon Bronzyna:
You surely must know that like all squirming politicians, bandwaggon-jumping scientists, & activists, when the cat is let out of the bag on climate change the majority of the AGW camp will merely claim something along the lines of “we were simply responding to the best available scientific views & data available at the time”! Followed by “You cannot possibly hold us responsible for causing scare stories on that basis.”
Doesn’t the logo of “we” look like “me” upside down? That’s quite egocentric, er e-Gore-centric 😉 I don’t doubt that the whole global warming campaign is a political one. He’s relatively young, so he can still aim to apply for the Presidency in 8 years from now. Or even 4 years, if Obama screw things up in the next 4 years, or if the president is Republican. Meanwhile, I hope that during that time Sun’s activity will still be very low, and the climate cools down enough so that his brainwashing arguments lose enough strength that he won’t be able to fulfill his dreams of power (and ideally, to be completely discredited). I never thought that I would cross my fingers for a really bad thing, like a natural global cooling and/or a decreased protection of the solar system from the solar wind, just so that a group of people gets discredited.
Well, if we are to be rigorous, I still don’t see any indication on any kind of endorsement. Albeit no one believes he’s gonna vote for McCain, at least he has been refraining to say so and fully endorse Obama. So while I get why you are so vitriolic against Al, you have nothing here against him, only FUDdian speculation, you know, the very same thing that you accuse these folks of doing?
The strawman that Gore is worried about “science” not politics is insane. He’s no scientist, therefore he isn’t “worried” about science. He’s an activist, trying to get people’s attention towards his own agenda, be it reasonable or not, altruistic or selfish. He has some scientific facts backing him up, but make no mistake, he’s a “politician” in the sense that he’s trying to change the world.
So what you shouldn’t be worried is if this campaign of Al is going to “decide” the election or not (I think the people have already chosen, but there are still two weeks to go), you should be worried instead about how the high marketing gear that these people have backing them up will affect the scientific enterprise of finding out the truth.
Anthony: Hansen’s advocacy role has reached new heights, too. Refer to his recent newsletter. http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/20081023_Obstruction.pdf
But take heart, Jake and Elwood did eventually wind up behind bars, singing “Jailhouse Rock”. The verse with number 47 talking to number 3 makes me cringe, now.