From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
While we have been sizzling this week under a superdome of high pressure, somewhere else has to get the other side of the coin – cyclonic weather.
And that somewhere is Greenland.
Even in summer, precipitation in Greenland often means snow. And plenty of that has come down in the last week or so:
At the time of year when the ice cap melt in Greenland should be in full flow, the opposite has been happening. As a result the ice cap has carried on growing.
Current jetstream forecasts suggest this weather set up will continue for the next fortnight, so expect a late start to Greenland’s summer melt this year.
An early start to the Met Office melt
Heat-health Alert service
Red (emergency response) – A red alert would indicate significant risk to life for even the healthy population. – MO
UKHSA extends red heat-health alerts across England – gov . uk
The great thing about the summer of 1976 is despite the dire shortage of beer, we never had any of this miserable ecomarxist crap.
Hear ! Hear !
I remember the torrential rain after the months of drought…
That was a direct result of the appointment of a Minister for drought by the then Prime Minister, nothing to do with the weather.
The great thing about 2026 is that there are less people like you
Fewer
…sad there aren’t more…
Mr. Mr.: Perfect! Trolls hate it when you correct their bad grammer.
The great thing is that the AGW believers of 2026 are the Ice Age believers of 1976.
And actually the number of climate sceptics is rising every year.
That is always the fervent wish of socialists, to be able to eliminate all those who disagree with them.
I’ve been seeing more people like strativarius, as the masses start to wake up to the consequences of the global warming scam.
I gave him a like myself. 🙂
Thanks, man. You are the epitome of an indoctrinated and infantilised yoof
Hey now! AlGore:TheGoreacle said there is no ice or snow on Greenland, how dare you call him a fibber! 😉
He also claimed that Mount Kilimanjaro would be snow-free very soon. Last tkme I looked there was plenty of the stuff.
There ain’t plenty of stuff in your brain, I can tell you that much.
Such a fact based scientific observation, no doubt the result of experimentation and critical thinking. /s
Ah. But it has been peer reviewed with his parrot. So it must be true
Poor little socialist, can’t deal with reality so has to resort to insults.
And pathetic insults at that.
Come on son, try harder.
My glass of water has an higher IQ than you.
Go back to drinking cow urine like your compatriots.
If you can’t play nice, go play somewhere else. As ‘Spartcus’ points out, you aren’t making any useful scientific contributions.
You aren’t even entertaining us. I’ve heard more creative insults in a primary grades school yard.
LOL, you are batting zero here as you post off topic drivel.
I have been observing this, so I decided to download the Danish Meteorological Institutes (DMI) Daily Arctic air temperature dataset, after the hell of putting that together I made a daily de-seasonalized dataset, to compare against Arctic Sea Ice extent that I also de-seasonalized. These are a bit choppy because there is no smoothing.
What I found is that the 2025/2026 Arctic Extent will go down as the record low max extent. It is clear on the DMI daily anomaly plot that the rebound in Arctic temps is delayed, we are at mid-year, and temps should have been well above zero now, we are past summer solstice and there is nothing in the dataset like this.
If you click on the chart, it will expand to full scale and become clear. Click on the “X” in the circle to contract the chart and return to Comments.
I’m curious if you make these banal comments just to annoy me, specifically, or you feel that you have some brilliant insight into how to browse the web the ordinary users are incapable of realizing on their own?
A little Irish whiskey might help.
true
Bushmills Black.
Why stop a little?
Too much of anything is a bad thing.
But too much whiskey is just about right.
– Mark Twain
Bro the only thing you learned is how to browse the dark web. at least I don’t believe in the “deep state”.
How many of these things are true?
You’re the sort of person who’d believe all of these….
I submit the above post be deleted.
Why censor an alarmist moron? Censorship is what those people do.
I’m not going to censor him, but it’s clear he’s never gotten to know a cat.
No, it should stand. When someone shows their true character it should not be hidden lest others be deceived.
+50
If you are going to try and insult someone, it helps if you can at least make sense.
Or entertaining! Like, “Why is a mouse?” The cats do not have the answer to that riddle.
You mean the deep state that decided one day after 9/11 to
take out ” 7 countries in 5 years” according to 4 Star General Wesley Clark in 2007.
Which suggests that it absolutely does not matter who you vote for or who president is if those plans are being executed.
And all those countries were massively transformed since then
by the US deep state, mostly by direct conflict.
How likely is it to pick 7 out of 190 by coincidence,Mr No-Deep -State?
Or do you mean the Deep State that picked Obamas cabinet months before he was even elected?(can be found on Wikileaks).
Or the deep states insiders like Smedley Butler,Carrol Quigley and John Perkins were revealing in their books War is a Racket, Tragedy and Hope and Economic Hitman?
Or the creation of the FED and that the same guy who was the major force behind its creation was also the sponsor of the most successful corruption of the bible.
Or, in a more profane way, the Princeton paper that concluded after 10 years research that the USA
is a Oligarchy where the votees get shit and the 1% whatever they want,
or as Frank Zappa used to say: ” Politics is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex”
“You mean the deep state that decided one day after 9/11 to
take out ” 7 countries in 5 years” according to 4 Star General Wesley Clark in 2007”
Wesley Clark is a delusional, dangerous man.
Wesley Clark was Supreme Commander of NATO during the Kosovo war, where at one time Russian troops seized the airport in Pristina, and Clark ordered British troops under his command to attack the Russians and remove them from the airport.
Clark was on the verge of starting a nuclear war with Russia.
Happily, the commander of the British troops refused to attack the Russian, saying he was not prepared to start a nuclear war.
Clark backed down.
Don’t base any military action on what Wesley Clark says. He’s liable to get us all killed.
See “incident at Pristina airport”.
Bro?
In your case: moron.
4 is true, certainly. Ours used to do that every year.
Yes, we have to anticipate that cats are going to execute a preemptive strike on us at any moment, so we have to be prepared to get in first with our own defensive kick.
I dunno what we ancient humans ever did to ancient cats, but the buggers have borne us a grudge for millenia.
Perhaps when we stopped worshiping them? Ala ancient Egyptians.
good observation.
I thought all those cat mummies were revolutionaries that where rounded up and executed.
“so we have to be prepared to get in first with our own defensive kick.”
Easy peezy ! Get a male beagle pup .
Cats won’t stand a chance !
😉
Dogs have family.
Cats have servants.
I vote for the cats too. Never run out of cat food unless you want to experience being shunned by a superior being.
How true!! I often feed the barn cats and I have noticed a couple things. The first is that they lie about being fed, the second is that they would rather have cat food than hunt mice. Heaven help you if you run out of food.
About the only thing worse would be to try to use meatballs as a training reward for a polar bear, and run out of meatballs.
Ha Ha Ha, you are now 0-3 in comment relevance to topic matter.
Please give it a rest. Anyone who doesn’t know by now, doesn’t want to know.
Apropos nothing, the Scottish town named on the map is pronounced ‘kir-coobry’.
Should folks choose to visit the great ancient Pictish Kingdom of Fife, it’s worth a visit to Kilconquhar (‘kinnucher’) and nearby Anstruther (‘ainster’), both just a wee bit drive doon fae St Andrews (‘saint andrews’).
[with due apols to Charles (‘charlz’) 🙂
“While we have been sizzling this week under a superdome of high pressure, somewhere else has to get the other side of the coin – cyclonic weather.
And that somewhere is Greenland.
Even in summer, precipitation in Greenland often means snow. And plenty of that has come down in the last week or so:”
Something similar is happening in the northern Rockies of the US- just a few hundred miles from scorching heat above 100⁰F, there are winter storm warnings for the mountains around the Idaho-Montana-Wyoming tripoint (the general area around Yellowstone).
Yes I’ve seen youtubes of people going to those areas for the early summer national parks experience.
Not what they were expecting at all 🥶
https://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
I keep referring anyone who will take notice the this link.
It doesn’t surprise me to learn of the late start to the melt season in Greenland. At least in part, this must be due to a record breaking duration of cold through Spring and early summer in the high Arctic. I’m now pretty certain that the amount of time below the blue mean line is the longest period since the DMI record began in 1958 and easily the longest continuous period under the blue line for May & June.
Notice: now virtually into July and the mean temperature for the region still hasn’t crossed the 0C threshold. Much of this can be explained by latent heat transfer, but of course the melt season always draws latent heat from the atmosphere. The rate of melt hasn’t been out of the ordinary since spring equinox, so the latent heat attribution only goes so far in explaining the record duration of cold temperatures for May and June.
Well that makes no sense whatsoever as most of the mass gain is in the Low Arctic, most loss in the High.
The Arctic as a whole has recently been near record warm 2m temps on climate reanalyzer.
You can down vote but you can’t refute the facts. Lol.
DMI data says you are wrong .
If you need a reanalyzer, which takes source data and massages it in unknown ways, likely according to the tool authors’ preferred bias/outcome, you can be convinced of what you wanted to hear.
The age old question:
Do you understand, or do you believe ?
Regarding the last chart, do you have the mean for 2011 to 2025?
See above.
Not what I asked.
Apologies, no I didn’t have time to answer your request fully and I don’t have time to plot the mean for the period you requested. However, you can take a look for yourself at each individual year, from 2011 up to and including 2025.
Most notably, the late Spring/early Summer period often does show temperatures under the mean. This is due to the acceleration in the melt season, causing more latent heat transfer. However, this can’t completely account for the low mean being observed this summer.
Just doing some dead reckoning on the charts from 2011-2025, most Spring/early Summer periods show significant periods dropping below the mean, which I believe has been set at 1958-2002.
I don’t think however there’s likely to be any statistically significant difference for the this time of year from 2002 through to present. The main warming appears to be during Autumn (Fall) and Winter seasons, when albedo is very low. So the theory that changes in albedo being the culprit driving temperature change in the region, isn’t at all clear.
https://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
Sorry, chrome won’t allow me to paste the image. However, if you hit the link and then hit the 2025 option next the graph, the graph for 2025 will then be presented.
or just ask Harold how to do it?
(sorry, couldn’t help myself 🙂 )
Not even close to what I requested.
UK, well at least Southern England, low to mid 30Cs from early next week again, lasting as far as the long term forecast goes. The summer is going to end up more heatwave than not at this rate.
The Arctic is very cold:
https://www.cfact.org/2026/06/29/but-the-big-story-on-action-news-weather-is-the-arctic/
No it isn’t. Not overall. And the cold area has done nothing for the ice area or thickness (record low more or less).
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/t2_daily/?dm_id=arctic
No, the real lows were during the most of the early mid and late-mid Holocene .
Levels then increased steeply through the last 2000 year to extreme highs during the LIA and around 1979…
… and currently the levels are only just a bit below those two extreme high levels..
I suspect you’re probably going to be expressing the same points, even when Arctic sea ice starts to rebound, with net annual gain. I’ve been watching and listening to the volume debate for decades…. while Arctic sea ice does each season what it’s always done. That is: it shrinks back during the late spring/summer months and rebounds during the fall/winter. Almost bang on cue, within a week of every spring and autumn equinox, we see the the retreat, then the re-advance respectively.
Yes, there’s been a net loss over the past few decades. That is mostly likely due to a natural warming trend, with perhaps a little help from land use changes and by human activity generally. That trend will change with a little more volcanic activity….and/or more burning of fuels that emit reflective aerosols. These are just a few of the culprits that muddy the waters when trying to assess the impact of CO2, which I believe in itself to be a virtually impossible task.
I will concede however, that I am no expert. Having said that I have followed the whole AGW debate since the late 1980s, and have done my best to research literature with a completely open mind. Science in any sphere is far from infallible but in something as complex as global climate, I believe it to be as futile as trying to herd cats. Of course the skeptical science has been deliberately suppressed by the powers that be, which unfortunately gives a heavy popular tilt in favour of the mainstream narrative.
As far as global sea ice is concerned – allegedly one of the unconscious canaries in the coal mine, I’ll sit up and take notice as soon as I see the melt season extend well beyond the autumn equinox and start well before the spring equinox. Simple, straightforward – no real complex science involved there I believe!
Of some interest is that the chart always ends higher than it begins. Even the most “meltiest” year gained about 40 gigatons of snow, while the average is about 340 gigatons and the peak at just over 600 gigatons. Gaining each and every year. How many times have we been told that the Arctic is melting? It seems it is not.
That’s because SMB only accounts for atmospheric changes, it is not the same as the total mass balance of the Greenland Ice Sheet. There is ice discharge to consider too.
It’s been negative overall for many years running, but no need to worry, hardly scratched the surface.
Greenland SMB changes were more negative in the 1930s, 40s.
“hardly scratched the surface.”
Exactly.. graph the Greenland ice mass since 1900, basically zero trend.
I recently read a novel by British author Peter May called “A Winter Grave“. It’s a murder mystery novel set in Scotland in the 2050’s, which isn’t a problem in itself, but the background premise is a problem. The premise is that the Greenland icecap has melted, stopped the Gulf Stream leading to Scotland experiencing severe bad weather. The author acknowledges the input from Professor Jim Skea for his advice on the author’s climate change scenario.
possible story tip “Europe’s record heatwave: does the continent have a new climate?”https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-02046-x
https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/fossil-fuel-emissions-have-rapidly-worsened-european-heatwaves-in-just-a-few-decades/
https://macau.uni-kiel.de/servlets/MCRFileNodeServlet/macau_derivate_00008076/655b626d3e99f.pdf
To the down voter, I was actually thinking of something to counter the hypotheses in the linked websites, not that I agreed with them.
Folks this is what we call weather, my suggestion is to stay warm where it is cold and stay cool where it is hot. Pretty simple really.
I notice that the default mean given in the charts is 1981-2010. Why hasn’t this been updated to the period 1991-2020? Of course I am being sarcastic. We all know why the default mean is not 1991-2020.
Greenland has been gaining mass above 2300m for all of this century. It is only a matter of time, of the order of another century, before the annual mass gain across the island is positive.
Tropical moisture has a strong upward trend and that is driving increased advection of moisture in both hemispheres. So snowfall trending up and taking longer to melt at altitude despite higher sunlight in March and April.
Note how the truth shocks the trolls into desperate corners and changes their attack narrative.
I keep wondering why some days the comments are so cranky when overall there is a wealth of interesting and informative contributions and debate.
Maybe it is just EOFY ?
That’s the days they are ‘working from home’!
Tell Owen Jones this, Mr Homewood: he is preaching from his Youtube pulpit that heat is about to become TERRIFYING. I put that in capitals because that is what he does.
He preaches from the pulpit of no undergraduate science degree, not to mention telling highly educated people that they should have been put in camps for refusing to have a Covid19 vaccination.
But when he preaches to the converted ,he can equate heat in Western Europe as global boiling and his congregation nod wisely and say: ‘Yes, Vicar Owen, how wise you are!’
Is there any compelling data that shows that when Europe has hot summers, Greenland ice mass grows more than if Europe has cooler summers?